Provocation in noise

Started by HongKongGoolagong, May 21, 2012, 04:38:14 PM

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FreakAnimalFinland

Curiously the one guy who did that animal trampling magazine and some art videos by himself, was projected in movie festivals - including one in Finland. He set the limit to trampling worms and at hardest newborn mice, which supposedly were unable to feel pain.  His art vid shot on film and shown at festivals was barefoot worm squishing, I guess.
Still FBI raided his studio and got rid of all the footage.

The more blatant and perverse videos of course raised some interests. Amusingly titled "Who killed roger rabbit" for sale at 140 USD per download or/and CDR with the file sent to you, naturally would be like magnet for those with morbid curiosity. Who's pay 140 USD for high heel crushing on rabbit duct taped to flood? Not me. But when option was to get dozens of the videos for free of charge, could I say no? Of course not.

The japanese artists who does the XXX films series with all sorts of worms, bugs, fish, octopus, etc.. I guess one may know what I talk about? In his interview with Vice mag he mentioned that first video in series (with dog) made him sad and feeling he exploited. Following parts, not at all. He felt it was more of food games. Inserting 100 baby eels up your ass - perhaps it is food games!

HongKingGoolagong's  Sotos story doesn't surprise me a bit. I would assume big part of the transgressive underground is most of all dissatisfied with human species. In this bitter state any mistreatment of human race appears justified and perhaps entertaining. It requires animal sacrifice to remind the how true suffering and death is.
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ImpulsyStetoskopu

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on May 28, 2012, 07:52:25 PM
He set the limit to trampling worms and at hardest newborn mice, which supposedly were unable to feel pain.  His art vid shot on film and shown at festivals was barefoot worm squishing, I guess.
Still FBI raided his studio and got rid of all the footage.

I have one american movie (probably this same as you mentioned) in my collection which was produced for fetishist's woman feet. She squishes (in stockings, and without them) various animals, from worms to mice (but not only newborn mice). There are sounds of golden hits from 70s and 80s. In the end of 90s I used this movie for the first live show VILGOĆ - Polish noise industrial (now HNW) act during one day multimedia festival in Legnica. Many people were shocked and gone out (or closed eyes and ears).

Bloated Slutbag

#47
A bit of a late entry, but a couple notes. First, and I may be playing a bit fast and loose with the word "provocation" here, but I wouldn't think it controversial to suggest that few readily embrace the possibility of being provoked – present company most assuredly included. Take the phrase "I tend to avoid that kind of thing." Well, what I am tending to do here is to avoid the possibility of being provoked. If I have some inkling as to what's coming, and I pursue it anyway, then the "provocation" is to be had on largely agreeable terms; hardly a provocation. Applied to noise/pe, perhaps the only real provocateurs would be organizers who, say, deliberately book performers like Hijokaidan at jazz festivals; or perhaps the mischievous friend who knowingly invites another whose sense of taste may stand to be fouled by paying witness to such performers in action.

Nevertheless, I think a performance (or re-presentation) of provocation can be had if there stands a chance that something or someone is going to be damaged; emotionally, physically, financially, whatever. Especially in a "community" where practically everyone knows everyone else. An extreme example might be where the performer, of whom I may have considerable respect, suddenly offs and kills himself. In such an instance I wouldn't know whether to laugh, cry, cheer, or stroke my chin*. I am provoked because I don't have any internalized script on how to react.

Note that in my view damage need not actually transpire; but rather, at some instance, the seeming possibility that it might. A more probable example might be back in the late 90's when I caught Death Squad in Toronto...

It's a small venue and things are already a bit surreal after the owner, at the behest of paying bar patrons upstairs, comes down and castrates Knurl by turning him down in mid-set... I'm already bit provoked you could say... So here's MK9, three feet away, hacking away at his forearm with a straight razor. I want to cheer but I'm not sure I should. In fact, it pops into my somewhat adled brain, I barely know this guy. Who knows what he's capable of? And at that moment, of course, the performance, and the provocation, could be said to succeed. Later audience reaction furthers the point. Knurl's girl shivers and confides, "I never could stand self-mutilation." I remain silent; I've indulged in something of the same style of "performance" myself – if not in a noise/pe setting. Her unsettlement actually unsettles me more; because it makes me look back on my own indulgences a little more critically. At the end of the evening, the provocation is more or less complete. Well done.

* the Japanese word for "penis"

[edited before my punctuation provokes reply from the grammar nazi]
Someone weaker than you should beat you and brag
And take you for a drag

ImpulsyStetoskopu

#48
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on June 01, 2012, 10:12:53 AM
Nevertheless, I think a performance (or re-presentation) of provocation can be had if there stands a chance that something or someone is going to be damaged; emotionally, physically, financially, whatever. Especially in a "community" where practically everyone knows everyone else. An extreme example might be where the performer, of whom I may have considerable respect, suddenly offs and kills himself. In such an instance I wouldn't know whether to laugh, cry, cheer, or stroke my chin*. I am provoked because I don't have any internalized script on how to react.

I share your opinion. I could say more,  I demand (as audience) to be provoked (in positive or negative way, whatever it means)... Even then, when my body loses control (usually I black out then) during body art performances, seeing real blood or piercing. I like this state of my mind, when I am shocked (out of my control) though earlier I knew what will happen.

Killing Caligula

Hi, everybody.
I guess you may like this stuff:

http://metacultura.com.ar/pornografia/

All about the sound aspects of Peter Sotos' work.
It's written in Spanish, but by using the Google translator it can be easily read.
Have fun!