Your Favorite Metal Releases.

[Zeno Marx]

Virus - all

You mean the norwegian Virus? Never heard Virus but was listening to Ved Buens Ende the other day, first time probably since 90's. It had aged much better than could have expected, especially guitar work is quite damn nice (and slightly clumsy drumming is maybe the weakest link). Any recommendations which Virus to check first?

I'd start at the beginning.  Only three albums.  If pressed to pick a favorite, I'd say The Black Flux.

[RG]

I know there are quite a few Neurosis fans out there, so just wanted to pass along that Relapse is reissuing Souls at Zero and Enemy of the Sun on 180gram 2LP. Coming out in a week. $30 is kinda expensive but it beats paying around $100 for an original.

Now they just need to reissue Times of Grace.

[ARKHE]

Virus - all

You mean the norwegian Virus? Never heard Virus but was listening to Ved Buens Ende the other day, first time probably since 90's. It had aged much better than could have expected, especially guitar work is quite damn nice (and slightly clumsy drumming is maybe the weakest link). Any recommendations which Virus to check first?

I'd start at the beginning.  Only three albums.  If pressed to pick a favorite, I'd say The Black Flux.

The opposite here actually, I find Black Flux the least interesting; Carheart and The Agents that Shape the Desert outranks it completely in my ears. Have you heard the 7" that accompanied the new LP? The Walker Brothers cover wasn't too bad actually, and the b-side track "Seen in the sediments" outshone the whole album actually.

Not that I would actually consider VIRUS a metal band, though... but the material from VED BUENS ENDE is among the best music ever released, period.

[RyanWreck]

I'm making a "Complete Metal Sub-Genre" list just for the fuck of it. Yes I know it is a fruitless endeavor and some people dislike compartmentalizing music but I feel like it should be done and I, personally, like cataloging and making lists of stuff especially when it comes to music. This is the list so far, I will be adding descriptions and bands to each sub-genre but for now I just need you guys to point out any genres I missed or that you feel should not be on here (those genres which I am having a problem with classifying as Metal or just don't like are located at the bottom of the list, labeled as "The Junk Genres" and stuff like "pornogrind", space metal or "horror death" are sub-sub-genres which I don't think should be looked into. Regional styles are a toss up as well, i.e. Greek Black Metal, Teutonic/German Thrash, etc.), suggest stuff, etc.

ULTIMATE METAL GENRE LIST
_______________
Hard Rock
Heavy Metal/Trad
N.W.O.B.H.M.
Progressive Metal
Traditional Doom
Neo-Classical Metal
Power Metal
Speed Metal
U.S.P.M.
Thrash Metal
Crust
Crossover
Grindcore
Deathrash
First Wave of Black Metal/Blackened Thrash
Black Metal
Viking Metal
Symphonic Metal
Dark Ambient
Industrial Metal
D.S.B.M.
Blackened Death
Raw Black Metal
War/Bestial Metal
Melodic Death Metal (A.K.A. Gothenbug Sound)
Death N Roll
Tech Death
Groove Metal
Brutal Death Metal
Death Doom
Funeral Droom
Sludge
Drone
Post-Metal
Folk Metal
Gothic
Alternative Metal
Djent Metal
Avant Garde Metal
New Wave of American Heavy Metal


THE JUNK GENRE POOL
___________
Glam Metal/Hair Metal
Grunge
Metalcore
Mathcore
Chiptune
Trance Metal
Nu-Metal/Rap Metal

[audiodissection]

Sarcofago "I.N.R.I."
Marduk "Panzer Division Marduk"
Kreator "Pleasure To Kill"
Mayhem "De Myisteriis Dom Satanas"
Slayer "Reign In Blood"
Burzum "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss"
Graveland "Following The Voice Of Blood"
Darkthrone "Transylvanian Hunger"
Morbid Angel "Altars Of Madness"
Black Sabbath "Paranoid"

[bitewerksMTB]

Djent Metal
New Wave of American Heavy Metal

What the hell is Djent Metal?
Never heard of NWOAHM either. Pretty sure that's a good thing.

[RyanWreck]

Djent is shit, pretty much coined by Meshugga (other bands are Monument, Uneven Structure and other shit bands). Weird time signatures, progressive but heavier than usual prog. "Named after a guitar tone made when a two octave power chord is being palm muted".

New Wave of American is probably the worst thing to ever happen to Metal but still is considered metal by some (barely). It started in 2001-ish and pretty much encompass' every crap genre American has spawned since then, but usually has to do with bands like Mastadon, Slipknot, Bleeding Through, Damageplan, crap, crap, etc. Pretty much just popular Metal that is harder to categorize but is what most people would probably just refer to as Mallcore.

[ARKHE]

Djent is shit, pretty much coined by Meshugga (other bands are Monument, Uneven Structure and other shit bands). Weird time signatures, progressive but heavier than usual prog. "Named after a guitar tone made when a two octave power chord is being palm muted".

Actually, it was coined by Meshuggah fanboys who masturbate thinking about the thickness of Fredrik Thordendahl's strings. Then people started applying it the past year or two to every band who rip off Meshuggah's trademark sound. Heard a bunch of bands that try to combine what is good with Meshuggah (the cold, mechanical structures) but making it more "musical" (=ripping of CYNIC's lame melodies). They all sucked. And the ones who only go for the technical aspect miss out everything. That is, "djent" is as dumb as it sounds. When I first saw the term I thought it might be related to djembe - a first wave of African metal, with native instruments? THAT would be something. Not this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4h0rlWX5lM.

What about CRABCORE? Haha. New wave of new wave of American pseudometal bullshit.

[RG]

New Wave of American is probably the worst thing to ever happen to Metal but still is considered metal by some (barely). It started in 2001-ish and pretty much encompass' every crap genre American has spawned since then, but usually has to do with bands like Mastadon, Slipknot, Bleeding Through, Damageplan, crap, crap, etc. Pretty much just popular Metal that is harder to categorize but is what most people would probably just refer to as Mallcore.

Seems like a pretty broad category by your description. When I first read "New Wave of American Heavy Metal" I thought of bands like The Sword and other new D&D/fantasy metal favored by hipsters. If that many different bands fall under that banner it seems like a worthless categorization (tells you about as much as just calling them "metal").

I remember one time in college during German class, the guy who sat in front of me turned around and said, "You going to the Disturbed concert tonight?" My response was a disgusted look on my face and gave him the thumbs down. He was confused and asked, "I thought you liked metal?" *facepalm*

[RyanWreck]

I remember one time in college during German class, the guy who sat in front of me turned around and said, "You going to the Disturbed concert tonight?" My response was a disgusted look on my face and gave him the thumbs down. He was confused and asked, "I thought you liked metal?" *facepalm*

Christ I hate that. At my last apartment some guy came home with my roommate and was chilling with me and was like "so what music do you like"? So I said "Metal" and he was like "what kind?" so I told him Thrash and some Black Metal, at which point he says "Black Metal is not Metal!". I was like wtf and he started to say that "bands like Bleeding Through aren't really Metal" and started to talk about how "In Flames is good and Metal" so I just started getting mad at him and explained that I didn't listen to Bleeding Through and that they aren't Black Metal and he should get his genres right and I mentioned Celtic Frost at some point so the faggot corrects the word "Celtic" saying I said it wrong (he didn't even know who the band was) so I snapped and went off on him about "coming into my house trying to correct me" and pretty much tried to fight him so he finally shut the fuck up and left. I still get mad when I think about that.

[ARKHE]

Seltic or Keltic? Seems Seltic only applies to the soccer team.

Raw Black Metal
War/Bestial Metal
Melodic Death Metal (A.K.A. Gothenbug Sound)
Death N Roll
Tech Death
Groove Metal
Brutal Death Metal

Now this is what I don't like about subgenre-categorization. It becomes tautological. I understand why there is need to put a band like DEVOURMENT in a different set than DEATH BREATH, obviously, but brutal death metal... death metal is brutal in itself. Black metal is raw. It's part of the basic classification. Of course, from a pragmatic point of view that doesn't hold up, but I remember two "fans" debating whether an old band of mine were "technical" or "brutal" death metal. Both and neither was the proper answer I suppose, I'm not to judge that + I don't care, but the whole debate just turns ludicrous when you reach that level. Hard to think of any good bands that fit in only one of these categories.

Btw, what's the difference between "symphonic metal" and "neo-classical"? S.M = Therion-like stuff, N-C.M = Malmsteen wank?

[RyanWreck]

Seltic or Keltic? Seems Seltic only applies to the soccer team.

I said Keltic but he was saying it is actually "Seltic" and kept saying the name of the some dumb language.

Now this is what I don't like about subgenre-categorization. It becomes tautological. I understand why there is need to put a band like DEVOURMENT in a different set than DEATH BREATH, obviously, but brutal death metal... death metal is brutal in itself. Black metal is raw. It's part of the basic classification. Of course, from a pragmatic point of view that doesn't hold up, but I remember two "fans" debating whether an old band of mine were "technical" or "brutal" death metal. Both and neither was the proper answer I suppose, I'm not to judge that + I don't care, but the whole debate just turns ludicrous when you reach that level. Hard to think of any good bands that fit in only one of these categories.

Btw, what's the difference between "symphonic metal" and "neo-classical"? S.M = Therion-like stuff, N-C.M = Malmsteen wank?

Don't know really. I just gathered all the genres I know of, collected them to this list and see where it goes. I don't listen to either so it is hard for me to classify those two. I'm sure there are differences but probably very subtle like the differences between Noise and PE to the casual listener is probably impossible to identify but 75% of the members of this board can probably give a fairly decent depiction of each.

[bitewerksMTB]

New LP from Christian Mistress on Relapse. Looking forward to getting it. Got their previous LP from Ajna who told me I'd hate it but I didn't. I like the Iron Maiden-kinda sound & the female vocalist.

Also will be getting the dbl LP from Vestal Claret. Liked what I've heard. I like the two Hour of 13 LPs too. Fave song on the second LP is "Naked Star".

[Ashmonger]

Got 3 Motörhead albums from my girlfriend yesterday (Another Perfect Day, Orgasmatron & Ace Of Spades). 3 steps closer to owning all Motörhead albums. There aren't too many bands of which I want to own all albums, especially not when they're as long running as Motörhead, but I'll gladly make an exception for Motörhead. I'm far from constantly listening to them (mostly listening to more extreme stuff), but there's some voice in my head that keeps repeating that Motörhead is the best band ever and I'm not even willing to discuss that, hehe!

[RyanWreck]

How about Tank, you like them? Filth Hounds Of Hades is one of the best NWOBHM/Speed Metal albums from the early 80's.

Two albums I have been constantly listening to the last few days...


Such a solid album. A perfect mix of the early "proto-Death" stuff of that time like Possessed or the Xecutioner demo's (who would come Obituary years later) and the greatest Teutonic Thrash albums like Kreator's Endless Pain and the first 2 Sodom releases specifically In The Sign Of Evil. Fast riffing, fast drumming, fast ranting Slayer-like vocals and dirty, sloppy production that adds a great atmosphere to the entire album. If you get this LP then you probably will also get their first release (unless you buy the original Cogumelo pressing), a split with Overdose titled Bestial Devastation that is pure Thrash in the vein of the bands mentioned before.


When it comes to early Thrash albums that would influence, or even create, the Death Metal genre I actually like this album the most, even better than Seven Churches. Infectious and sickening riffs and leads that are technical but not in the dumb "progressive" way, fast drumming and one of my favorite DM vocalists.