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Title: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RG on June 30, 2010, 02:05:54 AM
I know a lot of the posters here also frequent the Troniks/Chondritic Sound forum, so I ask: have any of you experienced problems with it in the past few days? Meaning, does your Antivirus software give you a notice when you try to go there?

I've never had a problem with it until yesterday. My browser went apeshit as soon as the main page loaded (some bullshit fake virus scan looking thing), so I quick rebooted my computer, disconnected my internet and ran a scan on my computer using NOD32 and it detected/removed some bad stuff. After that I could view the board fine. Now today I try to go there and NOD32 pops up warning me that it detects bad vibes coming from there. Anyone else getting this?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: ConcreteMascara on June 30, 2010, 03:34:03 AM
Same problem
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: nyarluna on June 30, 2010, 03:36:24 AM
Obviously an all out attack on Greh.  Get the same malware warnings on his blog.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FiEND on June 30, 2010, 04:35:53 AM
my browser wont even let me on the site without 3 Malware warnings.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Zeno Marx on June 30, 2010, 05:39:31 AM
XP.  Firefox (noscript, adblock).  Avast!.  Malwarebytes.

I haven't had any problems, and after a full Malwarebytes scan, it found nothing.  I did stop going to the board after hearing about all the problems.  I'll do a virus scan later and see what it finds.  I'll wait until someone here announces they have it fixed.

Heads-up are always appreciated.  No need for everyone to have a problem.  Live and share the lesson.

Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: linxtyx on June 30, 2010, 05:54:28 AM
It's already not the first time. Troniks was down because of more violent virus attack 1-2 months ago, then they even closed the board, but after they announced that it's clean and so on - problems of trojans/viruses still appears time to time.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RyanWreck on June 30, 2010, 08:16:54 AM
Just scanned Troniks, that would be pretty easy to attack, very vulnerable. It has a lot of un-patched PHP problems (no update since 2007?). This forum has a few too but most of the critical exploits require that the person have server access so its nothing too bad.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on June 30, 2010, 10:29:26 AM
Like said, it has happened before. Greh cleaned it up then, lets hope it happens now too.
In this board, there are always some spam bots getting in, but I keep erasing them as they come. Not much of spam messages or other problems.
Should load the necessary updates soon. As said, nothing critical waiting, but perhaps wise to keep forum up-to-date.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FiEND on June 30, 2010, 06:41:55 PM
I once frequented a forum that used the same build as this one and once it got perhaps 2 updates behind (sometimes even one) we would be flooded with about 35 sex spam bots registering per day. not much fun for admin.

i recommend making a captcha for people to register. do those work still?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on June 30, 2010, 07:42:43 PM
There is the hardest version available to make sure its real person that registers. Still few manages to pass.
Next step would be that joining in requires moderators approval, but unless spam becomes problem, I won't do it.

I tested chondritic forum and on explorer it would attack you with trojan faking as anti virus. My paid & constantly updated virus protected would easily handle it, though.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on June 30, 2010, 07:59:36 PM
There has been c. 380 ID's registered. Now there are c. 300 members. less than 100 bots in half year? I guess thats fine. Less than one a day. And actual spam posted, I think happened once in history of board?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RyanWreck on July 01, 2010, 06:07:43 AM
Some bots are fine and are nice to have around, some (like certain "spiders") simply link your content back to Google, Yahoo!, Bing, etc and get you more hits.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Zeno Marx on July 07, 2010, 09:51:45 PM
cleansed and fixed yet?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: andy vomit on July 07, 2010, 10:19:08 PM
i havent encountered any issues.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on July 07, 2010, 10:28:06 PM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on July 07, 2010, 09:51:45 PM
cleansed and fixed yet?

Hardly. Still full of idiots and chancers peddling their CD-r and other home botched crap when not crying about how awful it is that PE exists. Greh still shits over his customers from a great height. Ron still moderates. People with personality disorders still take up space with their retarded questions, advice and general mind diarreah. It's only good for advertising releases nowadays, so who really gives a fuck?

Does that answer your question?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on July 09, 2010, 02:40:48 AM
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on July 07, 2010, 10:28:06 PM
People with personality disorders still take up space with their retarded questions, advice and general mind diarreah.[/quote]

True, but it does have its negative points too.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: troniks on July 11, 2010, 04:25:50 AM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on June 30, 2010, 05:39:31 AM
XP.  Firefox (noscript, adblock).  Avast!.  Malwarebytes.

Zeno makes good suggestions.

It appears Greh's website (where the forum is hosted) is infected with malware. Only he can fix it - I've sent several emails over the past week with (as expected) zero response. I haven't had a problem but recommend having some protection when surfing anywhere on the web.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Zeno Marx on August 09, 2010, 08:37:03 PM
Malware cleansed?  Any news on whether the troubles are fixed?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 09, 2010, 09:08:24 PM
I haven't experienced anything for few weeks. Used firefox and explorer, and couple different computers. Nothing out of ordinary. Never seen greh make any announcement about problems or cleaning or whatever, though.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: rainbowbridge on August 09, 2010, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on July 07, 2010, 10:28:06 PM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on July 07, 2010, 09:51:45 PM
cleansed and fixed yet?

Hardly. Still full of idiots and chancers peddling their CD-r and other home botched crap when not crying about how awful it is that PE exists. Greh still shits over his customers from a great height. Ron still moderates. People with personality disorders still take up space with their retarded questions, advice and general mind diarreah. It's only good for advertising releases nowadays, so who really gives a fuck?

Does that answer your question?


looks like the virus is spreading to other forums...
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: ConcreteMascara on August 15, 2010, 07:13:41 PM
The forum seems to be down again.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on August 16, 2010, 02:10:39 AM
Yes, although it's up at present, it seem to be a periodical thing. Wish it was taken out of Greh's hands and given to someone with a bit more responsibility. It's still a very good resource and I'd hate to see it dismissed out of hand.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 16, 2010, 10:38:07 AM
I would assume these are just temporary things. Server down. Database being under process of cleaning etc. I think few days without forum is tolerable, heh. If Greh and Phil pay the bills for all the rest to use it for free, I don't mind that it has so flaws in "organisation".
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: ABISSO on August 16, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
?
i see it online
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: the_hitlers on August 24, 2010, 09:40:47 PM
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on July 07, 2010, 10:28:06 PM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on July 07, 2010, 09:51:45 PM
cleansed and fixed yet?

Hardly. Still full of idiots and chancers peddling their CD-r and other home botched crap when not crying about how awful it is that PE exists.


wtf is wrong with homemade releases?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: XE on August 24, 2010, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: the_hitlers on August 24, 2010, 09:40:47 PM
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on July 07, 2010, 10:28:06 PM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on July 07, 2010, 09:51:45 PM
cleansed and fixed yet?

Hardly. Still full of idiots and chancers peddling their CD-r and other home botched crap when not crying about how awful it is that PE exists.


wtf is wrong with homemade releases?


spraypainted cdrs.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: the_hitlers on August 24, 2010, 10:04:54 PM
ahb i see...
and what about spraypainted tapes?

or spraypainted walls?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RyanWreck on October 23, 2010, 12:34:16 AM
Anyone else having problems with the Troniks boards again? They are insanely tiny for me:

(http://i53.tinypic.com/35hek3k.jpg)
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on October 23, 2010, 01:41:03 AM
Not your browser settings? I've never seen it look like that before.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RG on October 23, 2010, 07:58:19 AM
holy shit you have a lot of toolbars in your browser!

like McIntosh said. maybe you accidentally hit Ctrl + hyphen/minus a bunch of times?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RyanWreck on October 23, 2010, 01:48:13 PM
Quote from: RG on October 23, 2010, 07:58:19 AM
holy shit you have a lot of toolbars in your browser!

like McIntosh said. maybe you accidentally hit Ctrl + hyphen/minus a bunch of times?

I am almost positive that I tried that but I'll have to check later. And that's actually not my personal computer, I run XP and Backtrack (*nix) and yea I agree my girlfriend has one too many processes running at one time and the toolbar is retarded full as is the stupid Vista gadgets bar.

*edit* Got it, thanks guys.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on January 09, 2011, 01:36:00 PM
Just had a look, got a page that says the domain has expired. Anyone else? 
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Levas on January 09, 2011, 01:39:55 PM
yes. these things happen to troniks board periodically.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on January 09, 2011, 02:06:43 PM
I've known it to be offline for other reasons but this is the first time I've seen a "domain expired" page, at least as far as I can remember. Could be wrong.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: SKY BURIAL on January 09, 2011, 03:28:29 PM
I predict a rash of suicides as dozens of socially stunted trolls no longer know what to do with themselves.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Coma Detox on January 09, 2011, 03:57:08 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on January 09, 2011, 02:06:43 PM
I've known it to be offline for other reasons but this is the first time I've seen a "domain expired" page, at least as far as I can remember. Could be wrong.

I've seen it like this a few times.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Cementimental on January 09, 2011, 06:17:55 PM
Quote from: SKY BURIAL on January 09, 2011, 03:28:29 PM
I predict a rash of suicides as dozens of socially stunted trolls no longer know what to do with themselves.

Don't worry, we'll just start posting here instead. :)
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: GX Jupitter-Larsen on January 09, 2011, 07:35:25 PM
I think this is the first time I've seen a "domain expired" page too.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FiEND on January 09, 2011, 07:36:39 PM
Noise Fanatics forum is down. Noise Fanatics chat is not.

http://mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.umich.edu&channel=%23noisefanatics

#noisefanatics on efnet
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: xdementia on January 09, 2011, 09:53:38 PM
Is this the end? My guess is that people will make there way over here. But I don't think Mikko will be so forgiving with the bullshit.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: absurdexposition on January 09, 2011, 10:01:35 PM
domain expired typically leads to someone having to pay for it again, or neglecting to pay for it in a timely manner. seems unsurprising to me that this wasn't done.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: BARAJAS on January 10, 2011, 12:09:51 AM
Quote from: Cementimental on January 09, 2011, 06:17:55 PMDon't worry, we'll just start posting here instead. :)
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on January 10, 2011, 12:33:52 AM
The Troniks forum was flooded, absolutely flooded, with bullshit, especially so over the last year. I'd done my dash with that place recently and have to say I'd be far from unhappy if the place is offline for good. I think it was Martin/Shift who said the place is only good for advertising and I'd agree. The great advantage that site has is that it's often the first port of call for people who have new releases. It was also invaluable for networking. But for discussion, either the standard really dropped over the last year or I just noticed it more.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 10, 2011, 12:51:56 AM
It was I who said that. I'll miss troniks like a hole in the head if it's gone but at the same time I dread the possibility of the assholes from over there flooding this place. It will take ruthless moderating to curb the bullshit.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Cementimental on January 10, 2011, 12:54:38 AM
There's always Noiseguide.com, that's where rejects from Troniks usually end up. :)

I think there are quite a lot of noiseboard posters who aren't even really aware this forum exists....
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: SKY BURIAL on January 10, 2011, 01:40:58 AM
Quote from: Cementimental on January 10, 2011, 12:54:38 AM
There's always Noiseguide.com, that's where rejects from Troniks usually end up. :)

I think there are quite a lot of noiseboard posters who aren't even really aware this forum exists....

Jumping from bad to worse seems counterintuitive.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Cementimental on January 10, 2011, 02:38:51 AM
Well yes that's what I mean, most of the people you don't want posting over here would be more likely to go there anyway.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: SKY BURIAL on January 10, 2011, 03:44:12 AM
Quote from: Cementimental on January 10, 2011, 02:38:51 AM
Well yes that's what I mean, most of the people you don't want posting over here would be more likely to go there anyway.

The Island of Misfit Noise.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: rottingmouth on January 10, 2011, 05:22:41 AM
For all the (valid) criticisms of the Troniks board it did have its high points.  New releases were typically announced there pretty quickly and the classifieds section was a great place to buy and sell.  Hopefully the classifieds here and elsewhere will pick up in its absence.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: glorycamera on January 10, 2011, 09:15:28 AM
I can live without it for sure but on the other hand it was the first forum about noise and (partly) power-electronics if found years ago.

It will be interesting to see if people now will switch and face up here. More curious to see, if the same people who dislike p.e. will show up here too.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 10, 2011, 10:37:01 AM
I hope it will NOT turn another Chondritic Sound.
I have already been thinking what kind of measures to take about sections. My primary interests is discussion and seeing thoughtful enough comments, recommendations, etc. For years, I've been so bored with constant spam from every direction. Big words about releases what clearly mean nothing.
When you check out for example "noise" section, first page.. is there.. 3 discussion topics? And like 50 topics advertising some releases to buy? And, Over here, it is nearly the same. Among 50 release announcements, you can find just handful of topics among "discussions". I mean, as simple topic as "best of the average", would be essential to list very good noise worth to check out. But no. Neither here and especially not in Troniks, nobody will name names. Instead, there is the 50 sales topic appearing.

Tommy C from Abisko/Segerhuva used to run that Post Mortem list. And decided to quit it in moment when it functioned 100% as means of promotion. Every message was the same, as the message of Whitehouse list or some other list/forum.

I know hearing about new releases is vital, but I hope it doesn't happen on expense of suffocating all the potentially interesting discussion what hardly can be found when being mere 2-5% of the posts? I have thought what would be the necessary measures taken. At Chondritic, there's nothing I could do even if I supposedly moderate one section. At here, luckily, it's all in my hands, with hardly any need of democratic decisions, heh..  I recall Doomed Forever has the policy, that advertising is for those who take part of the forum. Was it 100 real posts gives you right to use it for advertising? Over here, I merely introduced the "spam junkyard" where old ads will end up after they've been on main forum for a while. This keeps discussion messages easier to find, yet any old ad may be found with using search or going to junk yard section. But if we see flood of people, who's only motivation is to create income, exclusively self promote, etc. I hope they do have the courtesy of using "classified" instead of discussion forum, which hopefully would be as it says: discussion. If you hear good releases, don't hesitate to contribute. Playlist topic, best of average, canon of pe (!), or even own topics. I'm interested about customer & journalist feedback and well as artists "liner notes", but hardly interested reading another pompous label sale pitch from release that isn't worth damn ;)
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Cementimental on January 10, 2011, 10:46:05 AM
Well it seems to be back online so you can all breathe easy again.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: glorycamera on January 10, 2011, 11:04:53 AM
Well, i can totally understand what you said in your last post, admin (dont know you personally so i dont call you "Mikko" out of the blue). I personally think that the idea of having a forum where more serious discussion is going on is a great one and even more when
we can clearly see from the past that many people reject or even hate the themes and the approaches we use and like.
I do really enjoy to read trought long discussions with people who contribute interesting things or personal views on the matter in a constructive way - even more when they not try to talk you into their PC faggotery.

To the one above me, yeah, i guess he can breath easier now - in case what you said is true and the Troniks forum is back to live.
The reason why this lift offs some potential weight is just the fact that i am nearly sure, we dont need any PC extremists and their
"art college noise connection" of political aware and polite people over here. Let them troll at their place and we are all fine.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 10, 2011, 11:32:29 AM
Quote from: Cementimental on January 10, 2011, 10:46:05 AM
Well it seems to be back online so you can all breathe easy again.

Hasn't it happened before too? If fact, this happened to SI forum in december. I had paid the bills, but they said it takes "few days" to register payment, so for little while, it was offline. Talking about hours, though. But in case of Troniks, isn't it almost annual thing about forgetting the bills? And as far as I recall, it is pretty expensive forum to run. Several hundreds a year?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 10, 2011, 12:43:37 PM
Since there can be an expected onslaught in ads I would appreciate if the quality of discussion around certain releases is higher as well. A grey area for sure but I find it EXTREMELY annoying how friends of a label/band will go "WOW WOW HOLY SHIT THIS IS OUT OF THIS WORLD YOU'VE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD ANYTHING LIKE IT WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW..." and then you get it and it's mediocre or even shit. A difficult area to police but I'm sure a few people here know what I'm talking about. The guilty ones are doing no one any favours, least of all their friend who just put out a shitty release and won't be able to improve as long as they keep kissing his ass. Troniks is/was rife with that bullshit.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Sleep of Ages on January 10, 2011, 01:26:33 PM
Well, I just crashed from Chondritic to here... Everybody gotta start somewhere, right? (don't hate me, hehe)

What always bummed me on that forum was how it seems that noise is only this "ephemeral phenomena", there is just the now, and just for a couple of weeks, and then it´s erased for another faceless people to occupy it´s place. It is a great place to advertise releases, but, it really takes out the "balance" of discussion. I am not a noise scholar, in fact, I am quite a newbie, I must admit, so I am really interested in "learning", not by being taught, but with recommendations and similar, and people seem to keep things for themselves too much... I don't know, maybe some people approach noise only as a collector, not as a listener... And I'm not even touching on the "criticism" factor.
Damn, i love the PE Canon. Is it so hard to take noise seriously sometimes? Just for a change.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on January 10, 2011, 01:47:36 PM
Quote from: Cementimental on January 10, 2011, 10:46:05 AM
Well it seems to be back online so you can all breathe easy again.

Not as far as I can see. I still get the "domain has expired" page.

Does it really cost Greh hundreds a year to keep that thing online? I'm looking at the DomainsNext.com site and there's not a lot of indication about prices I could find. If it is that expensive there would have to be better options around, surely.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: SKY BURIAL on January 10, 2011, 03:04:25 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 10, 2011, 10:37:01 AM
I hope it will NOT turn another Chondritic Sound.
I have already been thinking what kind of measures to take about sections. My primary interests is discussion and seeing thoughtful enough comments, recommendations, etc. For years, I've been so bored with constant spam from every direction. Big words about releases what clearly mean nothing.
When you check out for example "noise" section, first page.. is there.. 3 discussion topics? And like 50 topics advertising some releases to buy? And, Over here, it is nearly the same. Among 50 release announcements, you can find just handful of topics among "discussions". I mean, as simple topic as "best of the average", would be essential to list very good noise worth to check out. But no. Neither here and especially not in Troniks, nobody will name names. Instead, there is the 50 sales topic appearing.

Tommy C from Abisko/Segerhuva used to run that Post Mortem list. And decided to quit it in moment when it functioned 100% as means of promotion. Every message was the same, as the message of Whitehouse list or some other list/forum.

I know hearing about new releases is vital, but I hope it doesn't happen on expense of suffocating all the potentially interesting discussion what hardly can be found when being mere 2-5% of the posts? I have thought what would be the necessary measures taken. At Chondritic, there's nothing I could do even if I supposedly moderate one section. At here, luckily, it's all in my hands, with hardly any need of democratic decisions, heh..  I recall Doomed Forever has the policy, that advertising is for those who take part of the forum. Was it 100 real posts gives you right to use it for advertising? Over here, I merely introduced the "spam junkyard" where old ads will end up after they've been on main forum for a while. This keeps discussion messages easier to find, yet any old ad may be found with using search or going to junk yard section. But if we see flood of people, who's only motivation is to create income, exclusively self promote, etc. I hope they do have the courtesy of using "classified" instead of discussion forum, which hopefully would be as it says: discussion. If you hear good releases, don't hesitate to contribute. Playlist topic, best of average, canon of pe (!), or even own topics. I'm interested about customer & journalist feedback and well as artists "liner notes", but hardly interested reading another pompous label sale pitch from release that isn't worth damn ;)


Why not start a "New Releases" heading under classifieds? If someone wanted to actually discuss a particular release they could post about it in the discussion section. This might cut down the discussion section to fewer threads but the quality of threads would supersede the quantity. Perhaps you could offer some sort of paid advertising (like the magazine) for a more prominent ad on the forum.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: red transistor on January 10, 2011, 04:06:30 PM
"Why not start a "New Releases" heading under classifieds?"

An idea I like even more is keep both separate with a "New Releases" heading all for itself.  That is, rename the "CLASSIFIED ADS" section on the index page as "ANNOUNCEMENTS" and subdivide it into 3 separate parts: "Shows", "New Releases" and "Classifieds".


p.s. First post. Hi.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: linxtyx on January 10, 2011, 05:35:07 PM
Quote from: red transistor on January 10, 2011, 04:06:30 PM
"Why not start a "New Releases" heading under classifieds?"

An idea I like even more is keep both separate with a "New Releases" heading all for itself.  That is, rename the "CLASSIFIED ADS" section on the index page as "ANNOUNCEMENTS" and subdivide it into 3 separate parts: "Shows", "New Releases" and "Classifieds".


p.s. First post. Hi.

I agree 100%. Why not to create "New Releases" section side by side to "Classifieds" it would be even more superb. Classifieds for gear,visual art,distros. New Releases for announcements of new material showing up.
I think it would help to clean up General Sound Discussion for sure.

I think the main reason people choose to post new releases on General Sound Discussion is because Classifieds feels like "less viewed corner" of the forum. So if specialized section would show up it would fix this...I predict. 
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: ARKHE on January 10, 2011, 06:05:08 PM
Yes, an Announcement section would definitely improve this forum. Keeping it clean with only new releases will also keep it interesting - consulting threads for selling music second hand sullies the experience of freshness with new releases... No discussion, only advertisement. No need for junkyard either then.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Violent Noise Atrocities on January 10, 2011, 06:31:43 PM
clicked on the forum like normal....got this message....wtf?


The domain "chondriticsound.com" has expired.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: ConcreteMascara on January 10, 2011, 06:37:26 PM
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on January 10, 2011, 12:43:37 PM
The guilty ones are doing no one any favours, least of all their friend who just put out a shitty release and won't be able to improve as long as they keep kissing his ass. Troniks is/was rife with that bullshit.

I agree I can't stand that shit. Many one words posts saluting bullshit.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Ashmonger on January 10, 2011, 08:10:45 PM
I think the idea for a new section is a good one indeed (and I just see a new one is going to be made). While I myself don't take much part in discussions, because I'm still quite new to noise and power electronics, I really think some of the discussions are very interesting!
Apart from all that, I really like this board, this is really one of the few, if not the only one, where there are no trolls at all and where any discussion can be serious for more than 10 posts (even for several pages, try to imagine that on most metal boards for example)!
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 10, 2011, 08:48:03 PM
Done. And also see updated "guides" of the sections. I will write one for announcements too.
Also increased topics-per-page count from 20 to 30, so takes more message before it drops to page 2. When I have time, I will start moving topics.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: pulsatingcyst on January 10, 2011, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: Violent Noise Atrocities on January 10, 2011, 06:31:43 PM
clicked on the forum like normal....got this message....wtf?


The domain "chondriticsound.com" has expired.

apparently the same thing happened last year, so I suppose it may be back online in the near future
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: SKY BURIAL on January 11, 2011, 01:07:43 AM
It's back up  :(
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Travis Johnson on January 11, 2011, 01:43:34 AM
While I don't disagree with the criticisms of the Troniks forum, I like the place for most of those very reasons. It's quite colorful and entertaining!
A more heavily moderated forum with a greater emphasis on actual discussion than on self-promotion, jokes and random images is also quite welcome, of course, and I hope that Special Interests will continue to stand in contrast to Troniks/Chondritic.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Violent Noise Atrocities on January 11, 2011, 02:03:02 AM
Quote from: SKY BURIAL on January 11, 2011, 01:07:43 AM
It's back up  :(

I am still getting the same message....did the address change?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on January 11, 2011, 02:25:41 AM
Same here. If the address has moved I haven't been able to find it.

Can't help but wonder if this is Greh just sloughing off any responsibility to the Noise scene once and for all. The criticism towards him was arking up again lately and the cynic in me suggests that he just decided to let the term lapse and be done with it. Surely it must have crossed his mind to think "fuck it, if that's how they feel let 'em do without me".
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: SKY BURIAL on January 11, 2011, 02:30:44 AM
Refresh your browser maybe? It's there and active.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Violent Noise Atrocities on January 11, 2011, 02:46:24 AM
not working here.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on January 11, 2011, 02:48:08 AM
Same here, despite browser refreshes and searches; not the forum or the ohter Chondritic Sound sites. No idea what's going on but I believe those who say that it's up and I'll wait and see.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Gape Arson on January 11, 2011, 02:49:50 AM
Different DNS' are still refreshing. http://www.chondriticsound.com/forum/ (http://www.chondriticsound.com/forum/) should work.
A lot of people seem really surprised about the registration lapsing... it's happened almost every year since the forum was created. I think the difference now is that there are now multiple places where people can discuss what happened to it.

Re: trolls... I had to ban one person who came to chat after it was linked on here for trolling, someone who I know is a user of this forum. This is the first person I had to kick/ban since early October. As bad as Noise Fanatics is most of the time (at least in the troll heavy forums), it's undeniable that certain forums like DIY and Gear really are melting pots with people coming from different backgrounds to share information.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Haare on January 11, 2011, 10:11:51 AM
Not working here. All I get is "The domain "chondriticsound.com" is parked with DomainsNext.com."
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Violent Noise Atrocities on January 12, 2011, 05:44:47 PM
Still not working for me....using the same address...i have typed it...even went and used the neighbors computer....same thing.


Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 12, 2011, 09:37:17 PM
Been there, not much new. Sometimes it works, sometimes I still get the blank site. But there are topics about board being back, so I guess it is.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RyanWreck on January 12, 2011, 09:53:36 PM
Occasionally when a site is on and off with that error message it is sometimes because of a "grace period" extension on paying the bills (this is usually nineteen days with most hosts). It happened to me on my old website. Either way, the fact that it is active even just for little amounts at a time is a good sign because a domain name which has expired usually cannot be unlocked.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Gape Arson on February 15, 2011, 09:09:04 PM
Ha. We still have chat up.

http://mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.umich.edu&channel=%23noisefanatics
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Nyodene D on February 15, 2011, 09:54:01 PM
can we get this thread title changed to "Troniks Is Down Again" Megathread?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RG on February 16, 2011, 03:44:10 AM
just checked....working for me

haven't had any issues with it for a while now
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on February 16, 2011, 04:55:35 AM
It was screwing up for me last night and I didn't think I was the only one. Ho hum...
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: martialgodmask on February 16, 2011, 11:08:43 PM
Wasn't loading for me a couple of days ago. Got email notifications of replies to topics but nothing cooking when I tried to view, instead just a "this page cannot be displayed" message. Think I noticed a thread about it once it got back up and running.

To be honest, I don't post much there anyway (not that I do here either, ha). As has been said, it can be a useful resource although ends up like trawling one big classifieds section often.

I guess I'm more of a quiet reader.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RyanWreck on March 11, 2011, 11:46:07 AM
I had some problems today but like I said before, all forums do that. I can almost guarantee that it is the host company either updating their DB's/backing shit up, or maybe the hardware node providing the shared hosting service is possibly unresponsive.

Of course there is a chance the problem is not the site itself, but rather a local problem with your computer, browser or possibly ISP. Since some people are accessing the forums only minutes after others received 404 errors I wouldn't dismiss this as a possibility. If you guys are having problems still (and you obviously can't fix the server side of things unless you are an admin) here are some fixes for all 4xx Errors, which are "Client Errors" (404 - page cannot be displayed, 408 - Timeout, etc.)

First off try switching browsers if that doesn't work then find the browser you are using in my list below and then follow the instructions given for that particular browser.
If you are using....

Safari If so then purging the Safari cache and rebooting should clear things up.

Firefox Than the following addon is a really handy tool created just for 404 errors and does so better than Google's "cached" choice - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/404-error/

I.E. Stop using IE!

Opera Choose the option "Never accept cookies" and set it for the Chondritic address - http://chondriticsound.com/forum/

Google Chrome Clear your cache and cookies, then enable or disable the "suggestions on navigation errors". This is done by clicking the Wrench icon (http://www.google.com/help/hc/images/chrome_toolsmenu.gif) at the top right, select Options, click "Under the Hood" tab and then, under the Privacy section deselect the "Use a web service to help resolve navigation errors" checkbox. Restart Chrome.

If this doesn't work than delete all cookies, caches and re-install
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FiEND on March 11, 2011, 04:25:30 PM
a handy website i use is

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 09, 2012, 01:43:49 PM
That heap of mong is down like a like a motherfucker. Again.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Goat93 on January 09, 2012, 02:00:22 PM
Seems down again or have they a new Adress?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RG on January 10, 2012, 01:10:49 AM
Haha, well it is that time of year again isn't it?

I rarely go there anymore, only occasionally to browse the classifieds and the gear section is pretty useful. Other than that it's shit.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: SiClark on January 10, 2012, 01:36:36 AM
Same here, classified section is still good but in the main bit there is too much drivel and too many bloody hippies whining. I prefer this place and Pure Stench.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RG on January 10, 2012, 02:04:58 AM
Quote from: Si Clark on January 10, 2012, 01:36:36 AM
too much drivel and too many bloody hippies whining.

...and advertisements for ridiculous conceptual HNW releases that are limited to 15 copies.

Pure Stench forum is ok, I read it once in a while. There's definitely some retards and fanboys who frequent there though, but I suppose that goes for just about anywhere.

Edit: just noticed that the Troniks board is back up
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: andy vomit on January 10, 2012, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: RG on January 10, 2012, 02:04:58 AM
Quote from: Si Clark on January 10, 2012, 01:36:36 AM
too much drivel and too many bloody hippies whining.

...and advertisements for ridiculous conceptual HNW releases that are limited to 15 copies.

Pure Stench forum is ok, I read it once in a while. There's definitely some retards and fanboys who frequent there though, but I suppose that goes for just about anywhere.

Edit: just noticed that the Troniks board is back up

it was up for about 40 minutes, now it's down again.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on September 26, 2012, 03:09:31 AM
Hands up who's having log in issues? I got logged out for some reason while trying to adjust some profile adjustments and can't log back in, getting no reply from Greh when emailing about it. And, of course, I'm not the only one.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: d_i_v_i_d_e on September 26, 2012, 03:34:21 AM
Yeah, having the same issue. Forced to continually log-in, but can't stay logged in. Mostly happens whenever I do anything on the site.

Been going on for most of past couple months. Basically just stopped going there at this point.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on September 26, 2012, 08:28:34 AM
There is topic about this as sticky in main noise section of board.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on September 27, 2012, 04:06:07 AM
Yea, although of course you have to be able to log in to post on it. Looks like it's going to stay that way.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: STREETMEAT on September 27, 2012, 05:01:40 AM
i remember it took MONTHS before i was able to get my account going. im sure it will get fixed one day just not soon(im having the same problem as well)

Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: icepick method on July 01, 2013, 05:30:10 PM
Is it just completely gone now?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Johann on July 01, 2013, 05:54:19 PM
Yea, Maniacs Only Forum took its place. It's not terrible, unfortunately (for me at least) the state/country sections seem to be slow to take off so it's kinda hard to find out whats been happening in the Midwest as far as shows go.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: RyanWreck on July 01, 2013, 09:06:15 PM
You can always come on over to my forums @ http://stenchforums.net  lots of people migrated from Troniks to there, quite a lot of members and posts that cover far more than the mid-west scenes.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Johann on July 02, 2013, 12:21:25 AM
cool, i'll check it out for sure.

But what i ment is i'm trying to figure out what is happening in the midwest. I just moved back to Detroit from Dallas, and i don't know shit about whats happening in MI or Ohio
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: jesusfaggotchrist on July 02, 2013, 03:34:40 AM
Quote from: Johann on July 02, 2013, 12:21:25 AM
cool, i'll check it out for sure.

But what i ment is i'm trying to figure out what is happening in the midwest. I just moved back to Detroit from Dallas, and i don't know shit about whats happening in MI or Ohio

I'm in Ohio, one of the only two noise acts in Youngstown.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Johann on July 02, 2013, 04:17:36 AM
isn't the other one greenlander? not my thing, fucking James Brown samples super loud at 2 AM...
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: jesusfaggotchrist on July 02, 2013, 06:15:29 AM
Quote from: Johann on July 02, 2013, 04:17:36 AM
isn't the other one greenlander? not my thing, fucking James Brown samples super loud at 2 AM...

yep, know him personally, casual friend of a friend. he definitely errs more on the side of experimental/noise, my shit's unmarketable industrial murk/power electronics with hardcore antifeminist/murder-related themes, hence the reason I can't get gigs (no scene + everyone's pc + no driver's license)

I will be playing Golden String's Pabstolutely in August/September though, around Labor Day, let's hope no one trashes my equipment or shuts me down.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Johann on July 02, 2013, 07:04:14 AM
hmm, Ohio having no scene? Seemed pretty fucking strong a couple years ago. Cleveland/Oberlin/Toldeo had some shit. Maybe not your thing, but yea. I don't know to many people down with those politics so i'm not surprised it's a hard fit, people just wanna fucking hangout and have some beers, talk some shit. 
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on July 20, 2013, 01:15:22 AM
You say people won't socialize on account of your antisocial stance? Sounds like you're doing something right!
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: nullify on July 23, 2013, 04:11:21 PM
Michigan definitely has a strong Noise scene.  Ypsi and Detroit are still strongholds.  Check out MUG (Michigan Underground Group) on Facebook.  They're always posting about shows and get-togethers and what not.
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: goatfish on August 21, 2013, 07:20:17 PM
MANIACS ONLY forum is down as well...?
Title: Re: Chondritic Sound forum weirdness?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 21, 2013, 07:24:09 PM
No.. It's there.
I think all sort of temporary few hour server issues should not alarm people too much...
If some forum disappears for many days or weeks, perhaps then one could ask these questions. Otherwise it's just another day in fragile cyberspace.