Is anyone aware of any interviews with this person/project? I like what very little I've heard, and the description "revisionist power electronics" is quite interesting. Since there's so little information out there, anything helps. Thanks.
All that juicy gossip aside, he's been pretty active the past couple years with playing shows around the Northeast. Don't really have any other information, hopefully some new material surfaces soon.
Recent live video from July, you can't see anything but the sound is pretty good-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxIc5APAc78
Last time I saw him he was in the Baltimore supergroup MECCCA with Crumer, Gene Pick and Trogpite. He is indeed the quiet type and can't imagine there would be a lot of interviews of him, though I think it would interesting if someone did a good one, he has seen a lot.
I don't like the direction he's gone in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URFt8ceATRs
Did anyone complain about FFH playing KKK songs at Summer Scum?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 24, 2015, 08:31:30 PM
I don't like the direction he's gone in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URFt8ceATRs
Did anyone complain about FFH playing KKK songs at Summer Scum?
No, surprisingly. People even cheered.
That's awesome.
Would you attribute this to blissful ignorance, or does dude just get a pass from certain people?
I think using Johnny Reb songs in noise is just, you know, ironic.
Could an owner of the LP please post the lyrics for "Hitler Jugend Dagger"? I'm curious about the lyrics as the title is odd & the opening is about a guy with a shotgun.
It's too bad the LP wasn't a larger pressing as it's his best work, so far. I just have a download of it.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 24, 2015, 11:11:02 PM
I think using Johnny Reb songs in noise is just, you know, ironic.
Could an owner of the LP please post the lyrics for "Hitler Jugend Dagger"? I'm curious about the lyrics as the title is odd & the opening is about a guy with a shotgun.
It's too bad the LP wasn't a larger pressing as it's his best work, so far. I just have a download of it.
That's a tough one.. Most likely it was executed w a wiiide grin, yea? If not... the use of "hate symbolics" could be understood as showing utter contempt / hatred for the contemporary. Mere speculations here ...
Leci n'est pas une KKK. Je suis FFH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URFt8ceATRs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URFt8ceATRs) Last FFH album was a bit too popy for me, but I enjoyed the crunchy sub-end electronics. I recommend it to the hardcore fanatics. Very controverisal lyrics on this one. Its about sucking corporate semen while saying no to the man.
Lp needs a repress.
If no one posts the lyrics before I get back into town on Tuesday, I'll post them.
"Make Them Understand" - probably the best PE Hospital ever released, really a great record.
I think all the old tapes are short enough for vinyl re-release....someone should get on that.
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sorry, so huge.
as you can see, the intro really has nothing to do with the lyrics.
agreed on the sentiment of this being the best PE release that hospital has ever touched, aside from a couple of choice re-issues.
i absolutely cannot wait for an LP (2xLP???) re-issue of all of the other material. it has to happen, right?
Oh, I wouldn't say the intro. has nothing to do with the lyrics. Perhaps you meant the title has nothing to do with the lyrics?
Seriously?
No, my perception is the exact opposite of yours. The intro sample is very obviously from modern times and is focusing on someone running from the police.
The lyrics have an old time, militaristic feel. To me, they are like a descriptive "stat sheet" on what could be the owner of the titular hitler youth dagger. Documentation from a file for a rising star in the ranks, if you will.
Sorry, yes, you're right - don't know what I was thinking. The intro sample, of course, has nothing to do w/ the rest of it. I thought you meant the first lines of the lyrics. I was out late last night...
Actually, I always imagine he's on about an I.R.A. quartermaster, or somesuch, in the lyrics - especially considering he had a 7" about the I.R.A., as well. But who knows?!
Quote from: collapsedhole on April 25, 2015, 02:57:55 PM
"Make Them Understand" - probably the best PE Hospital ever released, really a great record.
ive heard "stories" about richard but wasnt there so i wouldnt know.
lol, I guess mikko erased my gossip post detailng the conversation that I had with an acquaintance of dunn's.
I came back to say that using that juicy info, I now know that the song "greenpoint" on prurient's recent "frozen niagra falls" album is about Dunn. What clued me in is that there is a particular line in the song that references some of the details as well as the gentleman that I spoke with.
I guess they aren't good friends anymore.
Was just listening to Make Them Understand yesterday. A damn-near perfect album. There's a remarkably personal touch to it, especially considering that usually this sort of PE indebted to the old school doesn't amount to much more than trite comfort food.
Gotta agree with everyone about the need for reissues/collections of the LP and earlier material, though looking at the very particular quantities in which the original tapes and vinyl came out makes me think he has a thing for keeping things limited.
Symbol To Be Forgotten - what a release. Nobody could ever mistake this for music or for entertainment.
Sound-wise it's signature FFH but does have some new elements to it, and feels like material that he could not have produced at any time other than after the LP.
Familiar use of samples, strained vocals with no histrionics or bombast to them, having all the more impact for how naked and upfront they are. Primitive and palpable noise, no attempts at forcing it to take upon a more structured shape, deliberate avoidance of even the most basic conventional musical rules. Slight elements of musique concrète creeping in, which I don't remember from any other FFH I have heard, and what I think(?) is the use of a modular synth on the first track.
In terms of atmosphere, this might be the most dismal and unforgiving material he has made so far. No catharsis, no PE used as substitute for metal or punk, nothing there to inspire headbanging or fist-pumping, just pure misery. I'm hesitant to say that this is what power electronics should be, but it's close to the ideal.
I'm seeking To Find Men if anyone has a copy, cheers.
New FFH tape came out on No Rent this morning. Looks like it's almost sold out already.
https://norentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/zyklon-and-leather-nrr79
$18 for a tape, which isn't even a special edition...yeah, no thanks
Quote from: DSOL on June 26, 2018, 07:36:49 PM
$18 for a tape, which isn't even a special edition...yeah, no thanks
I mean I guess it came with "trading cards" and a poster. But with shipping to the EU made for a cost of 28 euro for a single tape with 14 minutes of music on it. Gonna have to pass as well
Yeah, the price and shipping to Asia made this a no-go. I don't normally complain about prices, ultimately you either pay it or you don't, but I didn't see anything there to justify the cost, so it seems purely charging because they can. We're talking noise tapes here, not Louis Vuitton handbags.
Definitely agree it was overpriced. Mostly just happy to see new music from this project as it's one of my favorites in PE. Especially love the track 'Redundancy'.
Quote from: vegasfountain on June 27, 2018, 09:34:03 PM
overpriced
I'll just be "that guy" and say that a C16 for $18 before shipping amounts to more than $1 per 1 minute of music, trading cards included or otherwise. Also - trading cards? This is the point where any accusations of being "manchildren" just won't withstand any defense.
OK, I'm gonna eat my previous words and say that now that the reissue without extras is available, I hope I can grab one. After listening on Bandcamp, it's not one to miss.
Hopefully it is acceptable to revive this thread. I just started listening to this project today, and am intrigued by it. Does anyone know of any new interviews that have been conducted with FFH since this thread has last been updated. Also, I suspect that the name FFH is some sort of acronym - any idea what it means?
I think 'For Future Holocausts' was used once. I saw he had a show booked in Philly this month (assuming its canceled now)
Quote from: Eigen Bast on March 16, 2020, 11:19:37 PM
I think 'For Future Holocausts' was used once. I saw he had a show booked in Philly this month (assuming its canceled now)
Interesting. Any idea where that name was used? Also, where are you hearing about his live shows?
The name was used for an unreleased tape on No Rent from 2015, and I found out about the show via an acquaintance that was playing with him. Unfortunately I can't find the flier now! I was surprised to see his name on there - had assumed he wasn't doing much these days.
I listened to Make Them Understand a while ago and was pretty underwhelmed. recently downloaded a lot of digital stuff and that included Zyklon & Leather and Document (both on No Rent). Really enjoyed Zyklon & Leather. Document was boring in my opinion. Z&L prompted me to relisten to Make Them Understand and it was better than I remembered but still not something I see myself listening to a lot. So far FFH has been very hit or miss for me, but I'd like to hear some more stuff if anyone has any suggestions. I know a lot of people really like this project, and I'm trying to give it a chance, but so far it just isn't doing much for me
Quote from: doll on March 17, 2020, 01:02:50 AM
I listened to Make Them Understand a while ago and was pretty underwhelmed. recently downloaded a lot of digital stuff and that included Zyklon & Leather and Document (both on No Rent). Really enjoyed Zyklon & Leather. Document was boring in my opinion. Z&L prompted me to relisten to Make Them Understand and it was better than I remembered but still not something I see myself listening to a lot. So far FFH has been very hit or miss for me, but I'd like to hear some more stuff if anyone has any suggestions. I know a lot of people really like this project, and I'm trying to give it a chance, but so far it just isn't doing much for me
I would recommend 'Symbol To Be Forgotten' and 'To Find Men', both great tapes. I always heard how great 'What's The Difference' is and was pretty let down when I finally tracked down a copy, but a lot of people say that's their favorite of his discography, so maybe check that as well.
Quote from: Seeping Disembowelment on March 17, 2020, 07:23:31 AM
I would recommend 'Symbol To Be Forgotten'
Absolutely. Some of the most intense and vivid atmospheres on a PE release ever. Not to get too Noisextra* about it and imposing my own subjective narrative, but it makes me think of some horribly violent crime resulting from decades of tension happening on a hot summer day in a bad neighbourhood. I think because you have these police scanner samples, but also (what i previously assumed were documentary samples, but actually is Richard) spoken passages about an oppressed people, and samples of a black preacher or protest leader speaking at a rally. Really rousing inspirational words but in this atmosphere of total dread and despair.
*I actually love when Noisextra do that
FFH played the most powerful live set I have ever heard. If you get a chance I recommend to go see them.
Richard Dunn was also a member of Vegas Martyrs and performed as part of Nihilist Assault Group at the No Fun festival in New York (2005.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXVw8no8Y70 (starts at 8:45.)
A favourite of mine. Have to agree Dunn seems to have a knack for creating an actual atmosphere with his tracks, utilizing a limited (and sometimes quite primitive) palette of sounds. Highly unique and effective approach to PE style unlike basically anything I have heard. Honestly, characterizing it as Power Electronics seems a little cheap to me. Make Them Understand, Symbol to be Forgotten and the collaboration with Prurient, Central Park Jogger are all gold-star releases in my opinion, and I think I will pass this afternoon listening to all three of them.
EDIT: I think what I am trying to get at in regards to the 'effectiveness' of a 'limited sound palette' is that he manages to get a breadth and depth out of these elements that others rarely do.
The collaboration with Prurient "Central Park Jogger" is super intense, some of my favorite material from both projects
favorite FFH would be Symbol To Be Forgotten followed by Zyklon And Leather
For those posting about reissues earlier in the thread, I am really not holding my breath on seeing anything from FFH on Hospital reissued in the future, solely based on the two simple facts that A) It hasn't been done yet: There are no Hospital reissues of any FFH material ever, other than the Silenced Whore tape which appears to have been his very first release, and just been a simple case of "oh we should have made more copies a few months ago, here are a few more C-10s in a vinyl clasp case" and that was 15 years ago... B) Richard and Dom seem to not be friends anymore from what I am gathering, not sure they would want to work together again on something like that. I see FFH as a Hospital artist through and through... I know he has put out work on other labels so that might sound dumb but I think about that project as part of the classic Hospital roster. Over 70% of his output is on that label. Reissues would look strange in my eyes on another label without that Dom touch on the art and shit.
That said, I am not the most well versed when it comes to how labels / artists operate in the noise scene where everything is an operation of a much smaller magnitude than say some big label with 80,000 copies of a record. Doesn't some sort of licensing still have to take place? Like where a label has to agree and sign off on different label releasing music that they originally put out? Or does the artist have complete control? Or maybe it varies with each artist-label relationship? Like I said, I don't really have a frame of reference for this stuff when it comes to noise, can anyone offer me any insight?
Make Them Understand is a monolith and I cherish my physical copy dearly. Gonna give it a spin this evening.
Quote from: XXX on March 21, 2020, 08:31:27 PMDoesn't some sort of licensing still have to take place? Like where a label has to agree and sign off on different label releasing music that they originally put out?
Depends on the agreement/contract but usually no.
Quote from: XXX on March 21, 2020, 08:31:27 PMOr does the artist have complete control?
If the copyright is not handed to the label exclusively via agreement/contract, the artist always owns their own material thus having complete control.
He's finally back.
https://norentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/a-step-ahead-nrr156 (https://norentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/a-step-ahead-nrr156)
Quote from: Woundfucker on August 30, 2022, 10:40:17 AM
He's finally back.
https://norentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/a-step-ahead-nrr156 (https://norentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/a-step-ahead-nrr156)
Also this : https://www.discogs.com/release/23019626-Nothing-But-Death-Nothing-But-Death . It is collaboration with Crumer. Have the tape, but havent listened yet, so cant comment on the material.
His set at this year's Summer Scum was one of the highlights of the fest. Great to see some old school PE live on a stage.
New FFH album "Frozen Music" has just dropped via No Rent Records!
https://norentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/frozen-music-nrr201
Sounds great! Thanks for the tip.
Got Frozen Music today. It's good, pretty much more of what you expect from current era FFH. Strong vocal delivery, lots of low fidelity harsh looping from atypical sounding sources, and a few different news story samples, one of an apparent murder case and the rest being news snippets from different world conflicts. The track "Project 6" is pretty hilarious and I don't know if that's intended. Maybe it's a joke about having the 6th generic PE project, and it may even be a jab at Dom, since it's delivered by someone who doesn't sound like Richard and they're just listing off what are essentially porn search terms of every imaginable variety, as well as some "other" stuff. Overall though the tone of the rest of the tracks before and after that one is pretty serious and in line with the releases before it.
Richard's set at Hospital Fest 2025: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBNW-MTkViI
Very short but powerful appearance. My jaw hit the floor once I realized what he opened with.
Quote from: prolapsedlielack on February 04, 2026, 09:50:11 AMMy jaw hit the floor once I realized what he opened with.
Same ahah great set, although extremely short (?). Very glad someone captured it on video.
Quote from: Vrenndel on February 05, 2026, 12:39:38 PMalthough extremely short
To be polite, very short. I think Alberich did 15 minutes and then FFH got the 12 captured there. Surprised he didn't get more but I understand they had to let GO get their room.
What was the running order of the festival, btw ? From the little I recall, it was organized on a single day, right? I wonder how much time was given to every project/band during the day, and if eventually Hospital will put out some physical release of it ?
Quote from: Vrenndel on February 10, 2026, 04:34:05 PMWhat was the running order of the festival, btw ? From the little I recall, it was organized on a single day, right? I wonder how much time was given to every project/band during the day, and if eventually Hospital will put out some physical release of it ?
Hospital did release the Vatican Shadow set: https://hospitalproductions.net/collections/new-products-new/products/vatican-shadow-ancient-methods-salford-electronics-oct-11-2025-nyc-cs-pre-order
There were also a few fest-exclusive items that went up on the webshop after the fact.
I'm still gutted I didn't jump over the chance to pre-order the FFH 4xCS boxset to be honest, that seemed like once-in-a-lifetime occasion.
The more time passes, the more significant Make Them Understand feels not just as an album, but as a send-off and encapsulation of a certain era of New York noise. The Hospital store, Red Light District, the Yellow Tears family tree etc. A perfect record. The glaring absence of Make Them Understand and Women In The War from the box set hopefully means standalone LP / CD re-issues are in the works.
Quote from: NightsAquarium on February 10, 2026, 09:35:57 PMThe more time passes, the more significant Make Them Understand feels not just as an album, but as a send-off and encapsulation of a certain era of New York noise. The Hospital store, Red Light District, the Yellow Tears family tree etc. A perfect record. The glaring absence of Make Them Understand and Women In The War from the box set hopefully means standalone LP / CD re-issues are in the works.
This makes me feel much better. I'll cross my fingers and hope that you are right. ha
Quote from: Vrenndel on February 10, 2026, 04:34:05 PMWhat was the running order of the festival, btw ? From the little I recall, it was organized on a single day, right? I wonder how much time was given to every project/band during the day, and if eventually Hospital will put out some physical release of it ?
It varied, White Shamrock opened and got maybe 10-15 minutes? Detonation Day felt like 20, Star was pretty short. The "bands" got some solid set times but Alberich did about 15 minutes. Genocide Organ got a full hour if my memory serves me right.
Quote from: NightsAquarium on February 10, 2026, 09:35:57 PMThe glaring absence of Make Them Understand and Women In The War from the box set hopefully means standalone LP / CD re-issues are in the works.
I definitely hope so!
If anyone is selling a copy of Frozen Music, PM me. I have been playing it non-stop recently and I am feeling very appreciative of 10"s as a format for PE at the moment. Can't wait for What Might Have Been to arrive.
FFH makes a wonderful guest appearance on the new Age Of Enlightenment tape, Join UFO Cults. Very funny and poignant lyrics delivered in his trademark agonized, disease-stricken style.
Very good tape. As always with AoE, the sound of some very skilled, very deliberate craftsmen trying to sound like they don't know what they're doing. It's not uncommon to hear punk or metal bands underplaying for effect, or playing sloppily or poorly for the sake of communicating passion or concept, but noise bands underplaying is much rarer.
Feel ignorant to ask it, but what does "FFH" stands for? Anyway, I believe this is one of the most genuine and gut-wrenching PE projects alive. Inventive enough to be on HP, whilst still maintaning the classic stylistic framework that makes this kind of music eternal. When people point out to "PE being dead", I point towards FFH, STAB Electronics, Climax Denial, Herukrat, Koufar, Deterge... and others. The split with Prurient, Women in the War has one of the best vocal presentations within the genre. Hails to this project.
Quote from: Kaaoskultti on February 15, 2026, 07:05:23 PMFeel ignorant to ask it, but what does "FFH" stands for? Anyway, I believe this is one of the most genuine and gut-wrenching PE projects alive. Inventive enough to be on HP, whilst still maintaning the classic stylistic framework that makes this kind of music eternal. When people point out to "PE being dead", I point towards FFH, STAB Electronics, Climax Denial, Herukrat, Koufar, Deterge... and others. The split with Prurient, Women in the War has one of the best vocal presentations within the genre. Hails to this project.
As people said above (I think in response to me asking the same question!) was that it means and/or has meant "For Future Holocausts."
Quote from: NightsAquarium on February 13, 2026, 11:17:00 PMFFH makes a wonderful guest appearance on the new Age Of Enlightenment tape, Join UFO Cults. Very funny and poignant lyrics delivered in his trademark agonized, disease-stricken style.
Very good tape. As always with AoE, the sound of some very skilled, very deliberate craftsmen trying to sound like they don't know what they're doing. It's not uncommon to hear punk or metal bands underplaying for effect, or playing sloppily or poorly for the sake of communicating passion or concept, but noise bands underplaying is much rarer.
FROM SWEDESBORO! TO HEAVENS GATE!
Anything Is Possible (https://hospitalproductions.net/collections/new-products-new/products/ffh-anything-is-possible-cs) has just received a second edition. The best FFH C10, surely.
Quote from: NightsAquarium on February 20, 2026, 01:07:08 AMAnything Is Possible (https://hospitalproductions.net/collections/new-products-new/products/ffh-anything-is-possible-cs) has just received a second edition. The best FFH C10, surely.
Plus a download for the entire boxset? Can't go wrong with that. A copy is headed my way now (plus a few other things!).
That $150 12" is mental. I think it has 1 unreleased track and the first demo on it. If reissues are coming though, I hope Make Them Understand is in the pipeline.
Quote from: NightsAquarium on February 20, 2026, 01:07:08 AMAnything Is Possible (https://hospitalproductions.net/collections/new-products-new/products/ffh-anything-is-possible-cs) has just received a second edition. The best FFH C10, surely.
Is 2026 the year of FFH? Let's see...
Quote from: prolapsedlielack on February 21, 2026, 11:55:17 PMQuote from: NightsAquarium on February 20, 2026, 01:07:08 AMAnything Is Possible (https://hospitalproductions.net/collections/new-products-new/products/ffh-anything-is-possible-cs) has just received a second edition. The best FFH C10, surely.
Is 2026 the year of FFH? Let's see...
For
present holocausts!
Quote from: prolapsedlielack on February 21, 2026, 11:55:17 PMQuote from: NightsAquarium on February 20, 2026, 01:07:08 AMAnything Is Possible (https://hospitalproductions.net/collections/new-products-new/products/ffh-anything-is-possible-cs) has just received a second edition. The best FFH C10, surely.
Is 2026 the year of FFH? Let's see...
Let's hope so!
Scream and Writhe just posted the What Might Have Been boxset, for those interested
Looking to buy:
Vegas Martyrs - Harlot Widow 2xcs
Vegas Martyrs - Vancouver Missing Women cs
DM or email amosharnett@gmail.com
Listened to the box-set from start to finish a good few times now. While finally getting to hear the mythical What's The Difference single, the superior alternate version of Against Ghettos' Fragrant Gardens and all that collaborative material with Lussuria is great, I somehow find myself most drawn to re-listening to his earliest, straight-up harsh noise recordings, meaning the Nadia and Silenced Whore tapes, the Audial Decimation comp track, the RRRecycled tape etc.
Despite this early material sounding almost nothing like the quite unique style of devastated, shredded PE he eventually developed, the atmosphere was there from the very start. Dark noise. Not the product of a scene, but of an attitude and a personal history.
New York or New York-adjacent noise in general from this era had such a strong and inimitable sensibility to it. Yellow Tears, Ahlzagailzehguh, FFH, Prurient, Cowards, K.P., John Mannion... An art school background in service of pornographic, psychosexual impulse. In retrospect, the most important noise of the mid-to-late 2000s and early 2010s was largely just coming out of New York and Finland.
Quote from: prolapsedlielack on February 16, 2026, 10:51:35 AMFROM SWEDESBORO! TO HEAVENS GATE!
Haaaaaaaaaah. The Swedesboro Diner is pretty good!
Despite not clicking with much of Richard's recorded work, he is truly great live. We played a show, funnily enough, at Heaven's Gate together in 2022. Remember his set outshining headliner
Rodger Stella by miles.
Anywhere still got the box set or wanting to part with a copy? I had mine in a Total Black order but seems like there were issues with his copies.
Ask and ye shall receive I guess... Second press went up at Hospital with a crazy Make Them Understand longsleeve. Would love to see that record repressed too.
Damn. Thought it would feature the little girl!
Quote from: burdizzo1 on May 15, 2026, 11:03:27 AMDamn. Thought it would feature the little girl!
Was thinking about this too. I wonder if it's a legal thing with printing her face considering the story or if Richard gets autistically stuck on certain images to attach to his stuff. He's definitely the type of guy who really digs through the most obscure shit to find his art. Look at
Zyklon & Leather.
CD version or no deal, Hospital! I'll just be burning my own discs for the time being thanks to the nice download that came with the one-off tape.
Quote from: prolapsedlielack on May 15, 2026, 11:10:26 AMQuote from: burdizzo1 on May 15, 2026, 11:03:27 AMDamn. Thought it would feature the little girl!
Was thinking about this too. I wonder if it's a legal thing with printing her face considering the story or if Richard gets autistically stuck on certain images to attach to his stuff. He's definitely the type of guy who really digs through the most obscure shit to find his art. Look at Zyklon & Leather.
What is the story? I always thought it's funny that the band name is ambiguous FFH with luger in logo, picture of a seemingly random black girl and album title: MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND. I still have no fucking idea what should I be understanding. Great album though, especially the first track. Bleak as hell!
Quote from: Manhog_84 on May 16, 2026, 02:31:52 PMQuote from: prolapsedlielack on May 15, 2026, 11:10:26 AMQuote from: burdizzo1 on May 15, 2026, 11:03:27 AMDamn. Thought it would feature the little girl!
Was thinking about this too. I wonder if it's a legal thing with printing her face considering the story or if Richard gets autistically stuck on certain images to attach to his stuff. He's definitely the type of guy who really digs through the most obscure shit to find his art. Look at Zyklon & Leather.
What is the story? I always thought it's funny that the band name is ambiguous FFH with luger in logo, picture of a seemingly random black girl and album title: MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND. I still have no fucking idea what should I be understanding. Great album though, especially the first track. Bleak as hell!
I wouldn't imagine it was a random choice. She was Sherrice Iverson, and she was murdered at an American casino in the late '90s. Don't know if there was a fascination with the particular case, but there is definitely 'something' about the image in the context of a p.e. album cover!
Quote from: burdizzo1 on May 16, 2026, 04:27:26 PMQuote from: Manhog_84 on May 16, 2026, 02:31:52 PMQuote from: prolapsedlielack on May 15, 2026, 11:10:26 AMQuote from: burdizzo1 on May 15, 2026, 11:03:27 AMDamn. Thought it would feature the little girl!
Was thinking about this too. I wonder if it's a legal thing with printing her face considering the story or if Richard gets autistically stuck on certain images to attach to his stuff. He's definitely the type of guy who really digs through the most obscure shit to find his art. Look at Zyklon & Leather.
What is the story? I always thought it's funny that the band name is ambiguous FFH with luger in logo, picture of a seemingly random black girl and album title: MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND. I still have no fucking idea what should I be understanding. Great album though, especially the first track. Bleak as hell!
I wouldn't imagine it was a random choice. She was Sherrice Iverson, and she was murdered at an American casino in the late '90s. Don't know if there was a fascination with the particular case, but there is definitely 'something' about the image in the context of a p.e. album cover!
He does this a lot. It seems like a lot of it is a puzzle only he knows the answer to. Makes him one of the biggest geniuses in the (relatively) "modern" PE scene
I'm not sure why it is such a mystery? A murdered black girl immediately brings to mind questions of race, (sexual) violence, and power---concepts also evoked by related images of a German handgun and even Japanese bondage. These are all themes that have been common in industrial music since the beginning. But maybe I am missing something with FFH?
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 16, 2026, 08:45:20 PMI'm not sure why it is such a mystery? A murdered black girl immediately brings to mind questions of race, (sexual) violence, and power---concepts also evoked by related images of a German handgun and even Japanese bondage. These are all themes that have been common in industrial music since the beginning. But maybe I am missing something with FFH?
The amount of references to Vegas he uses too...
Quote from: prolapsedlielack on May 16, 2026, 11:23:04 PMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 16, 2026, 08:45:20 PMI'm not sure why it is such a mystery? A murdered black girl immediately brings to mind questions of race, (sexual) violence, and power---concepts also evoked by related images of a German handgun and even Japanese bondage. These are all themes that have been common in industrial music since the beginning. But maybe I am missing something with FFH?
The amount of references to Vegas he uses too...
Power, spectacle, money, greed, sin, sex? While the addition certainly enriches industrial tropes, at its core it does not necessarily seem too novel, conceptually speaking.
Look at Zyklon & Leather.
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Google search led to an amateurish powerpoint slide video on youtube about the Bosnian war and Muslim women getting raped, with a Bengali written text in the description of the video. The original picture was featured. No further infos.
Quote from: Vrenndel on May 17, 2026, 11:07:41 AMLook at Zyklon & Leather.
Google search led to an amateurish powerpoint slide video on youtube about the Bosnian war and Muslim women getting raped, with a Bengali written text in the description of the video. The original picture was featured. No further infos.
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It's an image from 'Mission Rape - A Tool of War' a Danish documentary from 2014.
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 16, 2026, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: prolapsedlielack on May 16, 2026, 11:23:04 PMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 16, 2026, 08:45:20 PMI'm not sure why it is such a mystery? A murdered black girl immediately brings to mind questions of race, (sexual) violence, and power---concepts also evoked by related images of a German handgun and even Japanese bondage. These are all themes that have been common in industrial music since the beginning. But maybe I am missing something with FFH?
The amount of references to Vegas he uses too...
Power, spectacle, money, greed, sin, sex? While the addition certainly enriches industrial tropes, at its core it does not necessarily seem too novel, conceptually speaking.
I think it might be about specific events and themes, not those generally speaking. I have the impression most FFH releases goe in such direction, thematically - revolving around certain choices of.. "things". Pretty much like Prurient, come to think about it, as both artists prefer to scrutinize certain details, instead of focusing on the general aspect of deviant practices.
Quote from: Kaaoskultti on May 17, 2026, 10:50:29 PMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 16, 2026, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: prolapsedlielack on May 16, 2026, 11:23:04 PMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 16, 2026, 08:45:20 PMI'm not sure why it is such a mystery? A murdered black girl immediately brings to mind questions of race, (sexual) violence, and power---concepts also evoked by related images of a German handgun and even Japanese bondage. These are all themes that have been common in industrial music since the beginning. But maybe I am missing something with FFH?
The amount of references to Vegas he uses too...
Power, spectacle, money, greed, sin, sex? While the addition certainly enriches industrial tropes, at its core it does not necessarily seem too novel, conceptually speaking.
I think it might be about specific events and themes, not those generally speaking. I have the impression most FFH releases goe in such direction, thematically - revolving around certain choices of.. "things". Pretty much like Prurient, come to think about it, as both artists prefer to scrutinize certain details, instead of focusing on the general aspect of deviant practices.
In that case, its just a matter of deferral of the same. If the focus is on certain particulars, the follow-up question is inevitably: Why those? It seems most plausible to me that the answer would be something along the lines of those particulars providing an idiosyncratic view on broader thematic interests. While the particular in then novel, taking a wider perspective would show it to be a deviation from a pre-existing set of genre-expectations.
I like FFH, but I don't want to confuse vagueness with profundity. I would rather have answers.
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 17, 2026, 11:55:29 PMQuote from: Kaaoskultti on May 17, 2026, 10:50:29 PMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 16, 2026, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: prolapsedlielack on May 16, 2026, 11:23:04 PMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 16, 2026, 08:45:20 PMI'm not sure why it is such a mystery? A murdered black girl immediately brings to mind questions of race, (sexual) violence, and power---concepts also evoked by related images of a German handgun and even Japanese bondage. These are all themes that have been common in industrial music since the beginning. But maybe I am missing something with FFH?
The amount of references to Vegas he uses too...
Power, spectacle, money, greed, sin, sex? While the addition certainly enriches industrial tropes, at its core it does not necessarily seem too novel, conceptually speaking.
I think it might be about specific events and themes, not those generally speaking. I have the impression most FFH releases goe in such direction, thematically - revolving around certain choices of.. "things". Pretty much like Prurient, come to think about it, as both artists prefer to scrutinize certain details, instead of focusing on the general aspect of deviant practices.
In that case, its just a matter of deferral of the same. If the focus is on certain particulars, the follow-up question is inevitably: Why those? It seems most plausible to me that the answer would be something along the lines of those particulars providing an idiosyncratic view on broader thematic interests. While the particular in then novel, taking a wider perspective would show it to be a deviation from a pre-existing set of genre-expectations.
I like FFH, but I don't want to confuse vagueness with profundity. I would rather have answers.
I do wonder if it's a case of the answers are right in front of us. I've noticed he always focuses on the female casualties of any event, but it doesn't seem to be the typical misogyny or faux-misogyny you usually see in PE.
The emperor's naked army marches on
Quote from: prolapsedlielack on May 18, 2026, 12:26:14 AMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 17, 2026, 11:55:29 PMQuote from: Kaaoskultti on May 17, 2026, 10:50:29 PMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 16, 2026, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: prolapsedlielack on May 16, 2026, 11:23:04 PMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on May 16, 2026, 08:45:20 PMI'm not sure why it is such a mystery? A murdered black girl immediately brings to mind questions of race, (sexual) violence, and power---concepts also evoked by related images of a German handgun and even Japanese bondage. These are all themes that have been common in industrial music since the beginning. But maybe I am missing something with FFH?
The amount of references to Vegas he uses too...
Power, spectacle, money, greed, sin, sex? While the addition certainly enriches industrial tropes, at its core it does not necessarily seem too novel, conceptually speaking.
I think it might be about specific events and themes, not those generally speaking. I have the impression most FFH releases goe in such direction, thematically - revolving around certain choices of.. "things". Pretty much like Prurient, come to think about it, as both artists prefer to scrutinize certain details, instead of focusing on the general aspect of deviant practices.
In that case, its just a matter of deferral of the same. If the focus is on certain particulars, the follow-up question is inevitably: Why those? It seems most plausible to me that the answer would be something along the lines of those particulars providing an idiosyncratic view on broader thematic interests. While the particular in then novel, taking a wider perspective would show it to be a deviation from a pre-existing set of genre-expectations.
I like FFH, but I don't want to confuse vagueness with profundity. I would rather have answers.
I do wonder if it's a case of the answers are right in front of us. I've noticed he always focuses on the female casualties of any event, but it doesn't seem to be the typical misogyny or faux-misogyny you usually see in PE.
That's pretty much what I have been trying to say. I think many people confuse being opaque/unclear with saying something special, when I think there is generally an inverse relationship between the two.
Anyone knows what "Nadia" is about? One of the scariest noise releases I've come across.