Special Interest

quick search yeilds no thread for hippy singer/songwriters like Doug, Tony & David. any fanatics or are we all "too tough" to enjoy old men w 12 string sitting under tree? honestly enjoy Di6 albums like Rose Cloud or Nada but not so keen on All Pigs. not familiar with much else outside the well known albums of the genre (thunder perfect mind , trees in winter etc etc)

so in short,  looking for suggestions. new acts and obscure gems from past all welcome.

I believe most of the discussions are in the playlist thread, but here are a few threads that you might find useful:

http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=5939.0

http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=2138.0

http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=2546.0

I thought we had one that spanned mountain folk (Roscoe Holcomb etc) to the great offerings of Little Somebody Records (Novemthree, Arrowwood, etc) and Merlin's Nose Label (Gulaab, In Gowan Ring, etc), but I didn't find anything intensive with a search.  There's another newish label I have noted for this, but I can't remember it right now.  I would also watch out for reissues from Kissing Spell and Garden of Delights.

Interesting that this popped up, currently going back through the Allerseelen discography looking for all the highlights. Group with such a huge discography but so much weird garbage music that it's almost difficult to look at.

My impression of the genre currently is that most of the new groups trying to mimic it are incapable of doing it in the proper sound and spirit of the old days- I do like Blood and Sun though. Interested to hear others comments and new suggestions however - this genre acted as a bridge for me into noise and PE as a teenager, getting records from World Serpent, shortly before their demise.

Have gotten to see Doug, Tony, and David all play throughout the last 5 years. DIJ  in Massachusetts on the last North American tour before John passed (RIP), Tony playing in Berlin as Crisis, and David with C93- all great gigs. Even Crisis shockingly, assumed it would be terrible but was surprised

Quote from: Harvest on July 01, 2018, 02:38:58 AM
quick search yeilds no thread for hippy singer/songwriters like Doug, Tony & David. any fanatics or are we all "too tough" to enjoy old men w 12 string sitting under tree? honestly enjoy Di6 albums like Rose Cloud or Nada but not so keen on All Pigs. not familiar with much else outside the well known albums of the genre (thunder perfect mind , trees in winter etc etc)

so in short,  looking for suggestions. new acts and obscure gems from past all welcome.

Changes, Fire+Ice all you need basically, Pyhä Kuolema for more recent stuff

There's certainly threads on C93;

www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=2036.0

and Fire + Ice;

http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=2569.0

this might also be of interest;

www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=3445.0

as might this DiJ thread;

http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=3475.0


The one I would highly recommend is Andrew King - very studied and sincere take on traditional sources, esp. on The Amfortas Wound.

What happened to all those Neo folk labels under Steinklang? I don't think much has been put out for years now, which is odd because even if a label folks the artist should still be going...

Hi, just popping in with full disclosure that I have little to zero interest in the "it's just a sunwheel" neofolk that seems to be all the rage these days but about 10-12 years ago I stumbled across this weirdo Austrian folk outfit Sturmpercht and this is one of my favorite folky "wizards and trolls" records: https://sturmpercht.bandcamp.com/album/geister-im-waldgebirg-2014-edition.

To my memory, I don't think there is any Sturmpercht that isn't some degree of great.  And while we're here, and to repeat myself like the broken record I am, WALDTEUFEL.  Heimliches Deutschland is an all-time favorite.

I use to have this by Hekate & thought it was pretty good:

https://hekate-de.bandcamp.com/album/sonnentanz

Quote from: holy ghost on July 01, 2018, 06:54:23 PM
Hi, just popping in with full disclosure that I have little to zero interest in the "it's just a sunwheel" neofolk that seems to be all the rage these days but about 10-12 years ago I stumbled across this weirdo Austrian folk outfit Sturmpercht and this is one of my favorite folky "wizards and trolls" records: https://sturmpercht.bandcamp.com/album/geister-im-waldgebirg-2014-edition.

Nothing wrong at all with Sturmpercht - they have some really great material. But worth pointing out that this is one of the guys behind Rasthof Dachau

https://gruppe-eulenspiegel.bandcamp.com/album/eulentanz

This was a nice surprise for the morning.

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Quote from: Harvest on July 01, 2018, 02:38:58 AM
quick search yeilds no thread for hippy singer/songwriters like Doug, Tony & David. any fanatics or are we all "too tough" to enjoy old men w 12 string sitting under tree? honestly enjoy Di6 albums like Rose Cloud or Nada but not so keen on All Pigs. not familiar with much else outside the well known albums of the genre (thunder perfect mind , trees in winter etc etc)

so in short,  looking for suggestions. new acts and obscure gems from past all welcome.

Changes, Fire+Ice all you need basically, Pyhä Kuolema for more recent stuff

Pyhä kuolema (not Pyhä Kuolema btw) has a backing band now for live shows. Good stuff.

The transition from summer into fall always brings on a neofolk mood. I've already spent some time recently with Sol Invictus' great "Trees in Winter" and Fire + Ice's "Fractured Man". No doubt the usual Blood Axis, Di6, Current 93, etc. playlists are just around the corner, but as time goes on Ian Read/Fire + Ice just proves to be ever more the goat. "Gilded by the Sun" is a perfect album, and the combination of early music, reworked traditional folk songs, subtle synth work, and occult themes all used in the simplest, most effective ways throughout every album, topped with Read's humble vocals (see also his 'Benediction'/'Malediction' on C93's "Swastikas for Noddy", and 'Brown Book' on the Di6 album of the same name)... It's just no frills, true "neofolk".

Quote from: Zeno Marx on September 15, 2020, 09:00:24 PM
https://gruppe-eulenspiegel.bandcamp.com/album/eulentanz

This was a nice surprise for the morning.

The instrumentals are good, big early music vibes, but I generally can't get down with German folk-style vocals. They always kinda just sound goofy to me. Thankfully the album is mostly instrumental. 'Thule' and 'Tedesca' are great and that's as far as I've gotten at the moment. Pairs well with the "Early Venetian Lute Music" album I was streaming yesterday while reading.

I'm not sure how everyone else feels about them but I always get a kick out of Death In Rome.  They do Neofolk covers of pop songs.  If I am remembering correctly it is made up of members of Death In June so if you dig their output you will probably at least find this new stuff to be mildly amusing.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwYrOCB0_To

Quote from: deutscheasphalt on July 01, 2018, 10:49:38 AM

Quote from: Harvest on July 01, 2018, 02:38:58 AM
quick search yeilds no thread for hippy singer/songwriters like Doug, Tony & David. any fanatics or are we all "too tough" to enjoy old men w 12 string sitting under tree? honestly enjoy Di6 albums like Rose Cloud or Nada but not so keen on All Pigs. not familiar with much else outside the well known albums of the genre (thunder perfect mind , trees in winter etc etc)

so in short,  looking for suggestions. new acts and obscure gems from past all welcome.

Changes, Fire+Ice all you need basically, Pyhä Kuolema for more recent stuff

funny to see these three acts listed together. all three came up in recent conversation between myself and my other half. i've always considered Di6 to be one of my top 3 favorites, but PK has quickly become a runner-up, simply in the respect that i can put them on in any circumstance, regardless of mood and always want to listen to it. was unaware of the Process ties regarding Changes until recently, which lends a bit more to their music for me. decent album, although nothing beats the title track imo.

For the Finns, there is two new neofolk themed interviews here. Tervahäät and Pyhä Kuolema. For those who don't understand Finnish, there is just couple clips from yet-to-be-released 3rd Pyhä Kuolema album!

https://sarvi-podcast.bandcamp.com

Impatiently awaiting the 3rd release!

Been really into Jännerwein, Forseti, and In Gowan Ring lately. Slipping into Autumn has always got me listening to more of this genre.

Crazy to think we didn't have a neofolk thread yet!

Also crazy to think we got this far without anyone mentioning Rome yet and Of The Wand and the Moon?!?!

Some other favorites of mine from this year:

Crooked Mouth - Earth Becomes Sun
https://crookedmouthcampbell.bandcamp.com/

Blood & Sun - Love & Ashes
https://bloodandsun.bandcamp.com/album/love-ashes

Falgar - Atavismo solariego
https://falgarpr.bandcamp.com/album/atavismo-solariego

Nighttime - ∞
https://nighttimes.bandcamp.com/

Old standbys:

Kinit Her https://kinither.bandcamp.com/album/fire-returns-to-heaven
O Paradise https://lapin.bandcamp.com/album/memorias
Wood Witch https://bravemysteries.bandcamp.com/album/wood-witch
Roma Amor https://romaamor.bandcamp.com/
Steve Von Till https://stevevontill.bandcamp.com/
Wreathes https://wreathes.bandcamp.com/
Scott Kelly https://scottkelly.bandcamp.com/

and finally... not sure if y'all know but the PNW has a HUGE neofolk/pagan folk scene:

King Dude https://kingdude.bandcamp.com/
Witchbottle https://witchbottle.bandcamp.com/
Serpentent https://serpentent.bandcamp.com/
Novemthree https://novemthree.bandcamp.com/
Thunder Grey Pilgrim https://thundergreypilgrim.bandcamp.com/
Disemballerina https://disemballerinapdx.bandcamp.com/
Ekstasis https://ekstasisfolk.bandcamp.com/
Horse Cult https://horsecult.bandcamp.com/
Night Profound https://nightprofound.bandcamp.com/
Aos Si https://otherworldlyinvocations.bandcamp.com/
A Heart In The Stillness https://aheartinthestillness.bandcamp.com/

and finally to round it all out my own project!

Headstone Brigade https://headstonebrigade.bandcamp.com/

Really dig Darkwood, although I am not sure how big the appeal would be outside of their homeland, as the lyrics are a major part. A really nice display of how very basic Neofolk elements, i.e. Guitar, one or two other instruments (violin, sax, drums etc) and voice can make for an incredibly well-rounded and somewhat bombastic whole, when they are utilised perfectly.
Apart from that, Neofolk is THE ultimate hit and miss genre for me personally. Stuff is either amazing or kind of unlistenable heh

i released this a couple of months ago, may be of interest to some. danish neofolk w/an emphasis on the "industrial folk" aspect. i still have copies if anything is of interest, also i got another tape from the band, that is quite different (more "traditional" NF). (hopefully) enjoy: https://brutalisttapes.bandcamp.com/album/forgotten-youth-the-duty-of-love

I myself love most:
- Death in June
- Et Nihil (just one album and EP, but extremely good)
- Of the Wand & the Moon
- Sol Invictus
- Les Chasseurs de la Nuit (Kim Larsen from OTWATM side-project)
- Luftwaffe
- Changes
- Herr Lounge Corps (he worked with Douglas on Death in June - Peaceful Snow album, great solo albums, worth checking)
- Rome
- By the Spirits (cool one-man band from Poland)
- Darkwood (new album is really good)
- Der Blutharsch
- Sixth Comm

Also from stuff close to neofolk: Spiritual Front, King Dude, Steve von Till, Skin (side-project of Michael Gira and Jarboe from Swans, released 2 albums around 1990).


I also record myself some neofolk with my band Grave of Love, we got 2 EPs released so far and in Spring 2021 Only the Sun Knows will release our debut album. Here is some teaser: https://youtu.be/IcDk15xZD84
and music: http://graveoflove.bandcamp.com


I also made year ago a Spotify playlist with various neofolk music: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4slkhHWFmRdmNpzRBswWI7?si=rvajYVpORhSflyOQTNMRbA

new Brendan Perry album is Rebetiko Greek music.  Dead Can Dance.  I've only listened to the first half.  I'd have no issue with another synth-heavy album, but this is fine too.

https://brendan-perry.bandcamp.com/releases

Just released a new full-length collab of dark accordion-driven neofolk

https://headstonebrigade.bandcamp.com/album/crooked-headstone

Quote from: xdementia on April 13, 2021, 09:30:59 AM
Just released a new full-length collab of dark accordion-driven neofolk

https://headstonebrigade.bandcamp.com/album/crooked-headstone

got it, thanks. Enjoyed the old shipwreck tune a lot

Glad you enjoyed :)

Impromptu performance in a cemetery

https://youtu.be/DaqsmmEh53U

Loooooong awaited album by Pyhä Kuolema was released on vinyl. Very small edition, and therefore also price unusually high. It is unusual, but also very much (neo-)folk. There are some futurist synth elements, experimental moments, percussive elements, but mostly its vocals + guitar type of stuff. Finnish lyrics are highly advanced in writing, but for people who do not know language, there is no way really to translate the atmosphere. They can also listen the atmosphere of music.

Some examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz9AfwPfJno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIVlUx-8ooQ

I guess full album is also in spotify/bandcamp etc.

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 24, 2021, 10:00:47 AM
Loooooong awaited album by Pyhä Kuolema was released on vinyl. Very small edition, and therefore also price unusually high. It is unusual, but also very much (neo-)folk. There are some futurist synth elements, experimental moments, percussive elements, but mostly its vocals + guitar type of stuff. Finnish lyrics are highly advanced in writing, but for people who do not know language, there is no way really to translate the atmosphere. They can also listen the atmosphere of music.

Some examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz9AfwPfJno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIVlUx-8ooQ

I guess full album is also in spotify/bandcamp etc.

As I don't speak Finnish I generally reserve Pyha Kuolema for when I'm coming down from acid. The artwork for Kevättuulisormi makes me think he meant for this, to communicate across languages in this way. I like the new album a lot, it feels fleshed out with the other instrumental elements and almost reminds me of Sonne Hagal in that regard.

Last month Only the Sun Knows released new album from Grave of Love - 'All Those Tears Ago':

https://graveoflove.bandcamp.com/


Also not so far ago Of the Wand & the Moon came back with 'Your Love Can't Hold This Wreath of Sorrow'. Great album, good successor to 'Lone Descent'.

Nice I've enjoyed Grave of Love's previous material - can't wait to dig into this.

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 24, 2021, 10:00:47 AM
Loooooong awaited album by Pyhä Kuolema was released on vinyl. Very small edition, and therefore also price unusually high. It is unusual, but also very much (neo-)folk. There are some futurist synth elements, experimental moments, percussive elements, but mostly its vocals + guitar type of stuff. Finnish lyrics are highly advanced in writing, but for people who do not know language, there is no way really to translate the atmosphere. They can also listen the atmosphere of music.

Some examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz9AfwPfJno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIVlUx-8ooQ

I guess full album is also in spotify/bandcamp etc.

Sounds awesome... I just love how Finnish sounds when sung.

I'd heard The Joy of Nature from the split with Novemthree, but I didn't delve further with them.  The 2020 album, Until Only the Mountain Remains, is a honey of an album.  The cover art giving a nod to Tangerine Dream's Phaedra.  Reminds me of the richness of Sangre de Muerdago.  I should have paid more attention to that split.

enjoyed a lot the new of the wand of the moon. 

Quote from: tiny_tove on January 21, 2022, 10:59:44 AM
enjoyed a lot the new of the wand of the moon. 

the tracks i've heard sound a lot more Cohen compared to DIJ, which is a positive turn in my opinion

Quote from: Zeno Marx on January 20, 2022, 09:45:01 PM
I'd heard The Joy of Nature from the split with Novemthree, but I didn't delve further with them.  The 2020 album, Until Only the Mountain Remains, is a honey of an album.  The cover art giving a nod to Tangerine Dream's Phaedra.  Reminds me of the richness of Sangre de Muerdago.  I should have paid more attention to that split.

Love the project!
I've released this 7'' years ago and it is still one of my favorite works from him.
https://thejoyofnature.bandcamp.com/album/a-ilha-que-perdeu-o-encanto

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Quote from: tiny_tove on January 21, 2022, 10:59:44 AM
enjoyed a lot the new of the wand of the moon. 

the tracks i've heard sound a lot more Cohen compared to DIJ, which is a positive turn in my opinion

I just couldn't warm to it, so far.

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Quote from: totalblack on January 21, 2022, 12:03:07 PM

Quote from: tiny_tove on January 21, 2022, 10:59:44 AM
enjoyed a lot the new of the wand of the moon. 

the tracks i've heard sound a lot more Cohen compared to DIJ, which is a positive turn in my opinion

I just couldn't warm to it, so far.

Instant classic - love the new direction/evolution!

Ah, yeah - fair enough. Just at the moment when I'm turning to neo-folk, I mostly put on Überfolk's "Music For Nations". It's George Burdi, and some blonde bird. Now, say what you like about George Burdi (formerly of Rahowa), but he has a pretty amazing singing voice, and the songs and instrumentation are really top level. I know he's not really part of the neo-folk 'scene' that much, but this album puts an awful lot of such stuff in the shade. What was it someone once said - "too good to be neo-folk"!!!? Hah!

Quote from: burdizzo1 on February 09, 2022, 04:11:59 PM
Ah, yeah - fair enough. Just at the moment when I'm turning to neo-folk, I mostly put on Überfolk's "Music For Nations". It's George Burdi, and some blonde bird. Now, say what you like about George Burdi (formerly of Rahowa), but he has a pretty amazing singing voice, and the songs and instrumentation are really top level. I know he's not really part of the neo-folk 'scene' that much, but this album puts an awful lot of such stuff in the shade. What was it someone once said - "too good to be neo-folk"!!!? Hah!

It's good, but I do prefer the unofficial RAHOWA "Uberfolk" album. It was the raw, more demo recordings of something unfinished, what some Germans decided to put out as 3rd Rahowa CD. It is more towards Uberfolk, but less of new-age graphics, less "productions values". Final double CD is a notch too long, but this bootleg is pretty perfect.

I don't know who, or where, they were recommended to me, but Fields of Mildew have been scratching a tough spot to itch.  Not pure folk, as it has a dark indie sound; a unique set of effects on the guitar.  Folk nonetheless.  Consistently short releases that are easy to digest.

The 2021 Novemthree album does not disappoint.  They've done no wrong, and they only get better with time.  At the top of the neofolk game.

Quote from: Zeno Marx on February 09, 2022, 11:39:56 PM
I don't know who, or where, they were recommended to me, but Fields of Mildew have been scratching a tough spot to itch.  Not pure folk, as it has a dark indie sound; a unique set of effects on the guitar.  Folk nonetheless.  Consistently short releases that are easy to digest.

The 2021 Novemthree album does not disappoint.  They've done no wrong, and they only get better with time.  At the top of the neofolk game.

Absolutely! I picked up one of the first cassettes on spec and have been hooked since. I'd say the first EPs were my favorite releases of that year regardless of genre. I'm surprised they are not better known as I think they are all really solid releases.

Current 93 NY shows have been cancelled yet again...

Quote from: absurdexposition on September 08, 2022, 06:58:19 PM
Current 93 NY shows have been cancelled yet again...

Yea I am pretty steamed about this. It seems fairly obvious his management agency fucked this up somehow, which is just unforgivable considering they had two fucking years to get get paperwork straight! I hope I get to see him eventually....

If anyone still has flight tix out to NY for it, there is some cool stuff going on that weekend at least. Amphetamine Sulphate anniversary party + Lionel Maunz art opening. Hopefully some industrious and annoyed new Yorkers put a tight show together or something.   

Also, there is a Cult of Youth double LP out later this year.

Video for my cover of The Knife's Forest Families

https://youtu.be/L_qKw3hW-lw

Quote from: Eigen Bast on September 09, 2022, 12:23:13 AM
 

Also, there is a Cult of Youth double LP out later this year.

Also, the Cult of Youth 2xLP is out today!!!

EAGERWHIP - Death At The Eastern Temple, US Apocalyptic Folk.

https://youtu.be/1YehJjiqPI0

Have tried to listen to new Cult Of Youth, but so far can't really get over the hi-fi production.

It ain't really dirty either, but CURRENT 93 "If A City Is Set Upon A Hill" CD was good. While being fan of his oldest work, I have learned to appreciate pretty much everything. Should give it more listening, but not in hurry. Listened, liked, and filed at shelves and will have to return again after some time.

Latest purchase was ABOVE THE RUINS "Songs of the wolf" LP. New LP edition came 2019, on Russian Infinite Fog Productions. Then hit covid, then came war, and seemed unlikely to purchase it. Now was ordering stuff from Drone rec, stuff that haven't had possibility to buy wholesale, and browsed catalogue merely to letter "A" vinyls and had pile of missed items and enough for one purchase...
I did have formerly Above The Ruins on No Surrender compilation LP. Especially among the RAC groups, material is charming somewhat clumsy post-punk. Indeed, most tracks are not exactly neo-folk, but the works of Tony Wakeford between Death In June and Sol Invinctus. Latter one being one of artists I most frequently return to. Bunch of albums been listened this year too. This type of material has the spirit and production I like. Not sounding like production values of contemporary pop music, but oddities, little out of tune, little clumsy etc.. "Make Us Strong" probably highlight of album!

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 03, 2023, 02:45:56 PM

Latest purchase was ABOVE THE RUINS "Songs of the wolf" LP. New LP edition came 2019, on Russian Infinite Fog Productions. Then hit covid, then came war, and seemed unlikely to purchase it. Now was ordering stuff from Drone rec, stuff that haven't had possibility to buy wholesale, and browsed catalogue merely to letter "A" vinyls and had pile of missed items and enough for one purchase...
I did have formerly Above The Ruins on No Surrender compilation LP. Especially among the RAC groups, material is charming somewhat clumsy post-punk. Indeed, most tracks are not exactly neo-folk, but the works of Tony Wakeford between Death In June and Sol Invinctus. Latter one being one of artists I most frequently return to. Bunch of albums been listened this year too. This type of material has the spirit and production I like. Not sounding like production values of contemporary pop music, but oddities, little out of tune, little clumsy etc.. "Make Us Strong" probably highlight of album!

Ha ha! Was just listening to this tonight - I had the old World Serpent CD issue. For me, the best tracks are "Hundred Flags" and "Progress". I think by now it's pretty much accepted that a former drummer with Skrewdriver played on this, too? Anyway, yes - it's nice, but not perfect. Speaking of the "No Surrender" LP, another non-RAC band on that that stood out was Final Sound with their catchy synth song! But back to "Songs Of The Wolf": the World Serpent CD I have is missing a track from the original, for God knows what reason (it's not as if it's a long album, by any means!), and I thought maybe I'd get the LP to put it right. Well, browsing the Infinite Fog catalogue, I see Wakeford is giving part of the money raised from sales of this to 'some charities', among them Hunt Saboteurs. Fuck that.

Progress is also my favourite track by Above The Ruins. Also have that old WS version and have not seen or listened to the reissue.

As for the new C93 album, I like it better than most of his output in the post-2000 era. One thing I particularly enjoyed on the new one is that his voice has become old and brittle. It suits the music and overall atmosphere of nostalgia and forgotten ghost towns. Still, the last album I bought was Black Ships and the last "real" C93 album for me is Sleep Has His House. I have more than 100 C93 releases and used to manically collect them alongside the affiliated bands, but things just run their course and I don't wallow in nostalgia. That whole scene is over and the ones still active are hopelessly past their prime. That said, C93 has aged better than most of their contemporaries for sure.

When it comes to contemporary neo-folk, Solblot still holds up, IMO. So does Russian bands like Majdanek Waltz, Romowe Rikoito and Neutral. When it comes to new acts von Vvaeldten are okay, but maybe a tad too polished, which is a common problem. Unfortunately neo-folk bands today generally sound like they want to make soundtracks to nature documentaries.

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Final Sound

Never saw or heard the cassette they released. A reissue of this would be nice!

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Final Sound

Never saw or heard the cassette they released. A reissue of this would be nice!

It would be excellent, and I'm sure there's many would be interested in hearing it, myself included! However, something tells me it's as rare as hen's teeth - if it even existed at all.

Quote from: burdizzo1 on June 05, 2023, 12:54:05 AMWell, browsing the Infinite Fog catalogue, I see Wakeford is giving part of the money raised from sales of this to 'some charities', among them Hunt Saboteurs. Fuck that.

Well if it helps, it's highly unlikely that any of those charities will see any money from Wakeford.

Quote from: Phenol on June 05, 2023, 04:37:18 PM
As for the new C93 album, I like it better than most of his output in the post-2000 era. One thing I particularly enjoyed on the new one is that his voice has become old and brittle. It suits the music and overall atmosphere of nostalgia and forgotten ghost towns. Still, the last album I bought was Black Ships and the last "real" C93 album for me is Sleep Has His House. I have more than 100 C93 releases and used to manically collect them alongside the affiliated bands, but things just run their course and I don't wallow in nostalgia. That whole scene is over and the ones still active are hopelessly past their prime. That said, C93 has aged better than most of their contemporaries for sure.

I need to spend more time with "If a City...", but I immediately liked it better than "The Light is Leaving Us All" which didn't have very much staying power at all and felt like the old formula was getting played out. "Black Ships..." is the last real one for me. After Michael Cashmore left everything got a lot less interesting.

Quote from: absurdexposition on June 18, 2023, 11:42:18 PM

Quote from: Phenol on June 05, 2023, 04:37:18 PM
As for the new C93 album, I like it better than most of his output in the post-2000 era. One thing I particularly enjoyed on the new one is that his voice has become old and brittle. It suits the music and overall atmosphere of nostalgia and forgotten ghost towns. Still, the last album I bought was Black Ships and the last "real" C93 album for me is Sleep Has His House. I have more than 100 C93 releases and used to manically collect them alongside the affiliated bands, but things just run their course and I don't wallow in nostalgia. That whole scene is over and the ones still active are hopelessly past their prime. That said, C93 has aged better than most of their contemporaries for sure.

I need to spend more time with "If a City...", but I immediately liked it better than "The Light is Leaving Us All" which didn't have very much staying power at all and felt like the old formula was getting played out. "Black Ships..." is the last real one for me. After Michael Cashmore left everything got a lot less interesting.

"The Light..." also felt that way at first and people were saying how C93 were back in shape, but I got bored with it super quickly and din't bother buying it in the end. My initial feeling with the new one is much better, but like you I need to listen to it more. "Black Ships..." is good and I even have that stupid fan version with my name in the booklet, but I feel like it lacks something, that magic the old albums have is absent even though Michael Cashmore and Steven Stapleton are both on it. I would like to see most of these guys just retire and leave their legacies fairly untainted, but I guess you can't ask an artist not to create even if he peaked decades ago. I mean the latest few DIJ albums (well, arguably since Operation Hummingbird, so for more than 2 decades...) have been real stinkers, and live Douglas is just doing his usual lazy routine. Tony has been doing better quality-wise, but at the same time I rarely listen to Sol Invictus post "The Blade". "Fractured Man" by Fire + Ice was good, IMO, but I have yet to listen to anything that came after. My interest in neofolk and related has declined quite a bit since 2005 or so, but I often revisit and enjoy the old stuff.

A bit off topic but does anyone have a lead on copies or even pdfs of the battlenoise-martial industrial book? I know it was pulled due to issues when it was released but I imagine someone out there has a copy.

I saw a copy of this for sale on reddit a year or two ago - for some mad amount of money. E250, or something - or perhaps it was even more.
I was lucky enough to get a copy before it was withdrawn, but sadly, don't really want to sell it.

neofolk west coast tour 2023

(https://i.redd.it/8jehurdg1s7b1.jpg)

I have a near mint copy of the Above the Ruins CD (World Serpent) for sale: 15 euro (+ shipping)

"Latest purchase was ABOVE THE RUINS "Songs of the wolf" LP. New LP edition came 2019, on Russian Infinite Fog Productions. Then hit covid, then came war, and seemed unlikely to purchase it. Now was ordering stuff from Drone rec, stuff that haven't had possibility to buy wholesale, and browsed catalogue merely to letter "A" vinyls and had pile of missed items and enough for one purchase...
I did have formerly Above The Ruins on No Surrender compilation LP. Especially among the RAC groups, material is charming somewhat clumsy post-punk. Indeed, most tracks are not exactly neo-folk, but the works of Tony Wakeford between Death In June and Sol Invinctus. Latter one being one of artists I most frequently return to. Bunch of albums been listened this year too. This type of material has the spirit and production I like. Not sounding like production values of contemporary pop music, but oddities, little out of tune, little clumsy etc.. "Make Us Strong" probably highlight of album!"

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Quote from: burdizzo1 on June 22, 2023, 11:11:14 AM
I saw a copy of this for sale on reddit a year or two ago - for some mad amount of money. E250, or something - or perhaps it was even more.
I was lucky enough to get a copy before it was withdrawn, but sadly, don't really want to sell it.

Yeah I figured this would be the case for the most part but figured I'd see what was out there.

About "Neofolk", I'm writing an article on the subject and I was wondering if someone recalls when the definition came out.
In the beginning all this stuff was called "apocalyptic folk", then "neofolk" started to spread and it became term-umbrella for all the movement.

In the first chapter of "Looking for Europe", there's an interview with Dirk Hoffmann from Zillo. The interviewer asks: "The term neofolk first appeared at the beginning of the 90's in the magazine Zillo. Was it invented by a Zillo editor/writer or taken from another source?"
Hoffmann says no, they did not invent the term, and it was probably already in use.

Beginning of the 90's seems a bit too earlier to me.
I tried going through some zines of those days and the term never came out (you had varios descriptions like dark folk, or things like that but never neofolk used to define a genre)
My first recall is around the end of of the 90's when bands like Orplid started to release music...

Quote from: BlackCavendish on July 14, 2023, 01:32:20 PM
About "Neofolk", I'm writing an article on the subject and I was wondering if someone recalls when the definition came out.

I recall Douglas P saying in an interview that he first came across the term in some record store, but I can't remember which interview or era that would be, but I'll see if I can dig it up. I would not think it was coined before "But What Ends..."

Quote from: BlackCavendish on July 14, 2023, 01:32:20 PM


In the first chapter of "Looking for Europe", there's an interview with Dirk Hoffmann from Zillo. The interviewer asks: "The term neofolk first appeared at the beginning of the 90's in the magazine Zillo. Was it invented by a Zillo editor/writer or taken from another source?"
Hoffmann says no, they did not invent the term, and it was probably already in use.

can't remember who, but yes I think it was coined with apocalyptic folk back in the UK in the early 90s although it became more prominent slightly later

Quote from: tiny_tove on July 15, 2023, 02:52:33 PM

Quote from: BlackCavendish on July 14, 2023, 01:32:20 PM


In the first chapter of "Looking for Europe", there's an interview with Dirk Hoffmann from Zillo. The interviewer asks: "The term neofolk first appeared at the beginning of the 90's in the magazine Zillo. Was it invented by a Zillo editor/writer or taken from another source?"
Hoffmann says no, they did not invent the term, and it was probably already in use.

can't remember who, but yes I think it was coined with apocalyptic folk back in the UK in the early 90s although it became more prominent slightly later

And Tibet himself - again in the early '90s - described C93 as the "great clearing-house for industrial folk".

If you can get access to the old yahoo groups archive there was once a very active Neo Folf one that I'm pretty sure would have the answer in....

Quote from: burdizzo1 on July 16, 2023, 12:00:39 AM

Quote from: tiny_tove on July 15, 2023, 02:52:33 PM

Quote from: BlackCavendish on July 14, 2023, 01:32:20 PM


In the first chapter of "Looking for Europe", there's an interview with Dirk Hoffmann from Zillo. The interviewer asks: "The term neofolk first appeared at the beginning of the 90's in the magazine Zillo. Was it invented by a Zillo editor/writer or taken from another source?"
Hoffmann says no, they did not invent the term, and it was probably already in use.

can't remember who, but yes I think it was coined with apocalyptic folk back in the UK in the early 90s although it became more prominent slightly later

And Tibet himself - again in the early '90s - described C93 as the "great clearing-house for industrial folk".

slightly off topic, and won't answer the question, but I would like to share sonething about Italy. we used "folk apocalittico" instead of neofolk until the early 2000s. Journalist Aldo Chimenti (who wrote the massive DIJ Bio published by tsunami) was the biggest fan of the genre and wrote extensively on that on magazine Rockerilla. As of 2000 when concerts became regular and the genre got trendy, it shifted to neofolk (also because it sounded shorter and in Italian less ridicolous).

It became an umbrella term to put together everything from acoustic to martial to neoclassical to reinassance inspired (camerata mediolanense) and to unique projects like Ain Soph, Novy Svet and Ianva who definitely don't have much to do with the original standard. It was so more a term for an environment with some common aesthetic than a music description.

When traditional-folk inspired projects like Sturmpercht. Knotwork, Sangre Cavallum, Arnica started popping up, Max from Occidental Congress coined the UR-Folk tag which definitely suits the subgenre.

new shit coming soon

https://youtu.be/GXrLUbwYSgE

Dark folk duo Aune Mire may be of interest. Both members, Anthony Amelang (eponymous artist and member of Controlled Opposition), and Miles McClain (Shit God, member of Watershed Group) are from the noise world. Here is a single in advance of an upcoming full-length album.

https://aune-mire.bandcamp.com/track/charm-for-drawing-out-poison (https://aune-mire.bandcamp.com/track/charm-for-drawing-out-poison)

Seeing some of the good stuff within last couple of weeks.
Private show where Kaarna performed more cultural themed martial industrial set of his. Musically more into martial sound, but visually and with the sung vocals very much neofolk vibes. Then Kaarna and others playing cover song set including Sol Invictus, Coil and more.
Same gig Grunt played a bit unusual finnish language set, with less in-your-face approach.

Last saturday, Pyhä Kuolema did surprise gig at Apocalyptic Rites, being last minute replacement for Morrigan. Set was not like Pyhä Kuolema band gigs have recently been, but again more of his older man with guitar approach. However, it was also special. Starting with nothing but vocals and drum beat, local regional anthem performed. Then moving into his own songs, old, new, delicate guitar picking or louder neofolk chords. There was excellent song where he made entire crowd perform vocal tones that was used as basis of the track. Like performing neofolk song with audience chanting and howling simple couple tones shifting slowly, while he started to build track over that. Never seen nor taken part of such thing in gigs like these.
Set ended with massive special version of new songs that leans heavily into industrial sound. All four current members were present, with doing some commanding backing shouts and martial drumming. Excellent and totally beyond of the generic neofolk routines we tend to hear from people who simply "replicate" the most obvious neofolk things. Entire gig absolutely amazing.

If I had to pick up a name to explain what neofolk is in 2023 Pyhä Kuolema would definitely be the one.
Solid discography, always in progression, artistically very personal and with the right attitude.

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 24, 2021, 10:00:47 AMLoooooong awaited album by Pyhä Kuolema was released on vinyl. Very small edition, and therefore also price unusually high. It is unusual, but also very much (neo-)folk. There are some futurist synth elements, experimental moments, percussive elements, but mostly its vocals + guitar type of stuff. Finnish lyrics are highly advanced in writing, but for people who do not know language, there is no way really to translate the atmosphere. They can also listen the atmosphere of music.

Some examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz9AfwPfJno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIVlUx-8ooQ

I guess full album is also in spotify/bandcamp etc.

BandCamp link? Seems both those videos are dead and the only search result on BC is some kind of podcast

New video for a track from our upcoming album Victory & Defeat

https://youtu.be/QnkxXOvbJ0s?si=RmWckSe4Wbm4lOnx

Quote from: xdementia on October 19, 2023, 08:40:38 PMBandCamp link? Seems both those videos are dead and the only search result on BC is some kind of podcast

Not on Bandcamp currently, here's a working Youtube playlist plus it's on Spotify and Apple Music iirc if that's your thing.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nB8yc98HoZ-AHxL-1lf-h4_5wV7h8yZKM

Just released a new tape from my neofolk project

https://headstonebrigade.bandcamp.com/album/dark-shadows-in-bright-light

Two EPs on one cassette! Side A features "Dark Shadows in Bright Light" and Side B features "Divine Vestiges". Both EPs are Headstone Brigade's covers, re-interpretations, and devotionals. Limited to 100 copies and released by Weregnome Records.

Der Blutharsch / Sottofasciasemplice split 7" - very interesting particular moment in time in the underground when this came out. Their frontman Mario Vattani was Italy's Consul General in Japan and fired by his performance in CasaPovnd event 2012. CasaPovnd, when they first came out, were hip to alot of global third world anti-imperialist struggles; antineocon; appealing to millenials, etc... Kind of predates alot of the activity on the internet since 2016. It is cool that Der Blutharsch did a split with a CasaPovnd-adjacent group. Don't expect to see anything similar drop in the underground music scene these days. I think this record is unique for that.

Sottofasciasemplice was a very interesting project. Alternative music meets neofolk (in the beginning, especially the album "Crociato"), then they moved towards a more electronic sound in recent years. The focus has always been, as happens with these bands, on the lyrics. "Come mai" is a perfect example, and has become something of an anthem in certain circles.

However, in those years it was not impossible to see this type of impromptu collaborations (on the compilation dedicated to Codreanu there were both Sottofasciasemplice and Londinium SPQR, another Italian group from that political area), and Der Blutharsch himself did a split with ZetaZeroAlfa (the CasaPound leader's band).

New split from Cradle of Judah/Blood & Sun

https://cradleofjudah.bandcamp.com/album/split-w-blood-and-sun

Seems like a lot of current "neofolk" has gone in a direction of more just being soft indie folk music or side project of metal dude with some vague appreciation of nature and trying to be as avoidant as possible of words like Julius Evola, Cornelius Codreanu, Karl Maria Wiligut or anything inspirational to volkish movements etc

Maybe this is just a personal take but it always seemed to me that it was this tension between traditional and industrial elements in Neofolk- samplers, noise, industrial elements fused with folk to make it something different than just folk music. Also thematically topics relevant to 20th century european culture and the decline of the west.

I also understand European projects slowly moving towards traditional instrumentation as this makes sense as a progression but I really don't think it makes sense to call any bearded guy with vanilla acoustic guitar neofolk, but really just indie folk.

off the top of my head besides the obvious larger artists I think early novy svet, voxus.imp, waldteufel, kulgrinda are all interesting. Could add more to the list later

Quote from: unheimlich on September 30, 2024, 12:54:25 AMSeems like a lot of current "neofolk" has gone in a direction of more just being soft indie folk music or side project of metal dude with some vague appreciation of nature and trying to be as avoidant as possible of words like Julius Evola, Cornelius Codreanu, Karl Maria Wiligut or anything inspirational to volkish movements etc

Maybe this is just a personal take but it always seemed to me that it was this tension between traditional and industrial elements in Neofolk- samplers, noise, industrial elements fused with folk to make it something different than just folk music. Also thematically topics relevant to 20th century european culture and the decline of the west.

I also understand European projects slowly moving towards traditional instrumentation as this makes sense as a progression but I really don't think it makes sense to call any bearded guy with vanilla acoustic guitar neofolk, but really just indie folk.

off the top of my head besides the obvious larger artists I think early novy svet, voxus.imp, waldteufel, kulgrinda are all interesting. Could add more to the list later

Yeah, I'd agree with this: neo-folk has more or less had its day. Some reasonably interesting stuff from the Baltics (Romowe Rikoito, for one), but other than that... Darkwood are supposed to have a new one any day, and a couple of the better old martial projects (Sturmast, Kraschau) are making comebacks. What else? Ostara, Rome - are they really neo-folk? - still strumming away, and had a mid-week concert in London recently w/ Die Weisse Rose. Funny, with the rise of the right in Europe, you'd think there should be more of a market for the national-romantic stuff. Perhaps it's too gloomy, and instead of 'Death of the West', it should be upbeat and optimistic - 'Rebirth of the West'?!

I would assume "rise of the right" happening in Europe may call for analysis what type of "right" it is. At least in Finland, they say we have the most right wing government at the moment, and I'd assume soundtrack for their worldview would be the bling bling hip hop pop music with a little dose of nostalgic finn rock, hah... 

Finnish neo folk, I guess language barrier may set it into margins of margins. Ruusuriimu is pretty new project that is both quite new, and not a right wing music project. When I first heard it, thought it does genre music pretty well, but that's about it. Seeing this live clip of their live gig displayed it is not all about sweet melancholic guitar strumming, but experimental elements play bigger role.
https://ruusuriimu.bandcamp.com/track/muistan-sinut-maa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyfuNvis36w

Not sure was it already mentioned, but Taivaskivi may not be "neofolk", but "expressionist acoustic guitar work", from project before Commando 15. It may work for those interested in acoustic guitar stuff that goes beyond the basic open chord strumming. There is a bit of american primitive guitar here too.
https://taivaskivi.bandcamp.com/album/lex-bothnia

Mentioning the acoustic primitive guitar, one could also mention Samuli Näsi. Have the tape and seen his only gig. There is modest noise connections here. I recall it was Residual who did some finishing touches for the mastering.
https://brownhillmafia.bandcamp.com/album/ruckus

Of course over here, Pyhä Kuolema, Tervahäät, Kaarna, all that doing things as always, but it probably doesn't seem very visible outside Finland?

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 30, 2024, 08:25:25 AMMentioning the acoustic primitive guitar, one could also mention Samuli Näsi. Have the tape and seen his only gig. There is modest noise connections here. I recall it was Residual who did some finishing touches for the mastering.
https://brownhillmafia.bandcamp.com/album/ruckus

Residual and Samuli Näsi actually collaborated as Dust Wound and one track is on the Brownhill Mafia compilation tape. But Ruckus was mixed and mastered by Iäinen who is also part of Liminal Archaeology.

Sangre de Muérdago put out another great album this year, but that's an annual event with them.

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 30, 2024, 08:25:25 AMFinnish neo folk, I guess language barrier may set it into margins of margins.

Would you say Iterum Nata is part of the Finnish scene? He opened up for King Dude here recently. Lone guy with guitar playing traditional folk tunes campfire style. Didn't get too much enthusiasm from the crowd...

Iterum Nata, well, part of some scene of course, but I haven't considered it really be "neo folk". I would say that the "prog folk" type of thing is not "neofolk", even there would be some similarities.
New album appears more like atmospheric metal album really, but there is connection to even noise scene since project has played in same gigs with Mogao, Absolute Key and such. I'd assume his solo shows and the band material may be quite different.

I personally have pretty strong dislike for folk with current day studio production. Good musicians, studio production that resembles generic mainstream music you hear from radio. Material becoming so normal, so close to standards of mainstream music, feels regression to me. Compared to personality, weirdness, true experimentation, abstract and unsual elements, all things that comes from industrial side of the culture. In a way, Metsäkirkko or Nuori Veri, would be closer to spirit of neofolk, than something like pop-prog-folk-singer-songwriter kind of things. I am sure Iterum Nata would totally fit to warm-up King Dude!

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 04, 2024, 09:42:20 AMIterum Nata, well, part of some scene of course, but I haven't considered it really be "neo folk". I would say that the "prog folk" type of thing is not "neofolk", even there would be some similarities.
New album appears more like atmospheric metal album really, but there is connection to even noise scene since project has played in same gigs with Mogao, Absolute Key and such. I'd assume his solo shows and the band material may be quite different.

I personally have pretty strong dislike for folk with current day studio production. Good musicians, studio production that resembles generic mainstream music you hear from radio. Material becoming so normal, so close to standards of mainstream music, feels regression to me. Compared to personality, weirdness, true experimentation, abstract and unsual elements, all things that comes from industrial side of the culture. In a way, Metsäkirkko or Nuori Veri, would be closer to spirit of neofolk, than something like pop-prog-folk-singer-songwriter kind of things. I am sure Iterum Nata would totally fit to warm-up King Dude!

I agree! I think that is precisely what is interesting about that style of music for me as well. The more free flowing type of experimental aspects of it, that also seem as if they give a great nod to industrial music too. It's what separates it from other stuff. I think if one is looking for a more organized expression of "folk" elements, I'd say they'd fair better looking into something like Dordeduh or something maybe more metal inclined, but when it comes down to the hallmark traits of neofolk, still think the best of it resides in the more experimental area.

Quote from: unheimlich on September 30, 2024, 12:54:25 AMoff the top of my head besides the obvious larger artists I think early novy svet, voxus.imp, waldteufel, kulgrinda are all interesting. Could add more to the list later

Waldteufel's latest album is from 2007, is the project still active?

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 30, 2024, 08:25:25 AMI would assume "rise of the right" happening in Europe may call for analysis what type of "right" it is. At least in Finland, they say we have the most right wing government at the moment, and I'd assume soundtrack for their worldview would be the bling bling hip hop pop music with a little dose of nostalgic finn rock, hah... 

Finnish neo folk, I guess language barrier may set it into margins of margins. Ruusuriimu is pretty new project that is both quite new, and not a right wing music project. When I first heard it, thought it does genre music pretty well, but that's about it. Seeing this live clip of their live gig displayed it is not all about sweet melancholic guitar strumming, but experimental elements play bigger role.
https://ruusuriimu.bandcamp.com/track/muistan-sinut-maa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyfuNvis36w

Not sure was it already mentioned, but Taivaskivi may not be "neofolk", but "expressionist acoustic guitar work", from project before Commando 15. It may work for those interested in acoustic guitar stuff that goes beyond the basic open chord strumming. There is a bit of american primitive guitar here too.
https://taivaskivi.bandcamp.com/album/lex-bothnia

Mentioning the acoustic primitive guitar, one could also mention Samuli Näsi. Have the tape and seen his only gig. There is modest noise connections here. I recall it was Residual who did some finishing touches for the mastering.
https://brownhillmafia.bandcamp.com/album/ruckus

Of course over here, Pyhä Kuolema, Tervahäät, Kaarna, all that doing things as always, but it probably doesn't seem very visible outside Finland?

I agree with Freakanimalfinland on this matter. I don't think that the spirit of neofolk is really compatible with the rise of "populistic" right in Europe at all. I view the essence of neofolk to be more elitistic, spiritual and ambivalent than the materialistic and more banal right-wing party politics. It is more rooted in industrial culture and hauntological considerations than party politics. It really transcendents the political left and right paradigm.

Quote from: Commander15 on October 16, 2024, 10:39:44 AM

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 30, 2024, 08:25:25 AMI would assume "rise of the right" happening in Europe may call for analysis what type of "right" it is. At least in Finland, they say we have the most right wing government at the moment, and I'd assume soundtrack for their worldview would be the bling bling hip hop pop music with a little dose of nostalgic finn rock, hah... 

Finnish neo folk, I guess language barrier may set it into margins of margins. Ruusuriimu is pretty new project that is both quite new, and not a right wing music project. When I first heard it, thought it does genre music pretty well, but that's about it. Seeing this live clip of their live gig displayed it is not all about sweet melancholic guitar strumming, but experimental elements play bigger role.
https://ruusuriimu.bandcamp.com/track/muistan-sinut-maa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyfuNvis36w

Not sure was it already mentioned, but Taivaskivi may not be "neofolk", but "expressionist acoustic guitar work", from project before Commando 15. It may work for those interested in acoustic guitar stuff that goes beyond the basic open chord strumming. There is a bit of american primitive guitar here too.
https://taivaskivi.bandcamp.com/album/lex-bothnia

Mentioning the acoustic primitive guitar, one could also mention Samuli Näsi. Have the tape and seen his only gig. There is modest noise connections here. I recall it was Residual who did some finishing touches for the mastering.
https://brownhillmafia.bandcamp.com/album/ruckus

Of course over here, Pyhä Kuolema, Tervahäät, Kaarna, all that doing things as always, but it probably doesn't seem very visible outside Finland?

I agree with Freakanimalfinland on this matter. I don't think that the spirit of neofolk is really compatible with the rise of "populistic" right in Europe at all. I view the essence of neofolk to be more elitistic, spiritual and ambivalent than the materialistic and more banal right-wing party politics. It is more rooted in industrial culture and hauntological considerations than party politics. It really transcendents the political left and right paradigm.

Quote from: Commander15 on October 16, 2024, 10:39:44 AM

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 30, 2024, 08:25:25 AMI would assume "rise of the right" happening in Europe may call for analysis what type of "right" it is. At least in Finland, they say we have the most right wing government at the moment, and I'd assume soundtrack for their worldview would be the bling bling hip hop pop music with a little dose of nostalgic finn rock, hah... 

Finnish neo folk, I guess language barrier may set it into margins of margins. Ruusuriimu is pretty new project that is both quite new, and not a right wing music project. When I first heard it, thought it does genre music pretty well, but that's about it. Seeing this live clip of their live gig displayed it is not all about sweet melancholic guitar strumming, but experimental elements play bigger role.
https://ruusuriimu.bandcamp.com/track/muistan-sinut-maa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyfuNvis36w

Not sure was it already mentioned, but Taivaskivi may not be "neofolk", but "expressionist acoustic guitar work", from project before Commando 15. It may work for those interested in acoustic guitar stuff that goes beyond the basic open chord strumming. There is a bit of american primitive guitar here too.
https://taivaskivi.bandcamp.com/album/lex-bothnia

Mentioning the acoustic primitive guitar, one could also mention Samuli Näsi. Have the tape and seen his only gig. There is modest noise connections here. I recall it was Residual who did some finishing touches for the mastering.
https://brownhillmafia.bandcamp.com/album/ruckus

Of course over here, Pyhä Kuolema, Tervahäät, Kaarna, all that doing things as always, but it probably doesn't seem very visible outside Finland?

I agree with Freakanimalfinland on this matter. I don't think that the spirit of neofolk is really compatible with the rise of "populistic" right in Europe at all. I view the essence of neofolk to be more elitistic, spiritual and ambivalent than the materialistic and more banal right-wing party politics. It is more rooted in industrial culture and hauntological considerations than party politics. It really transcendents the political left and right paradigm.

Quote from: Commander15 on October 16, 2024, 10:39:44 AM

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 30, 2024, 08:25:25 AMI would assume "rise of the right" happening in Europe may call for analysis what type of "right" it is. At least in Finland, they say we have the most right wing government at the moment, and I'd assume soundtrack for their worldview would be the bling bling hip hop pop music with a little dose of nostalgic finn rock, hah... 

Finnish neo folk, I guess language barrier may set it into margins of margins. Ruusuriimu is pretty new project that is both quite new, and not a right wing music project. When I first heard it, thought it does genre music pretty well, but that's about it. Seeing this live clip of their live gig displayed it is not all about sweet melancholic guitar strumming, but experimental elements play bigger role.
https://ruusuriimu.bandcamp.com/track/muistan-sinut-maa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyfuNvis36w

Not sure was it already mentioned, but Taivaskivi may not be "neofolk", but "expressionist acoustic guitar work", from project before Commando 15. It may work for those interested in acoustic guitar stuff that goes beyond the basic open chord strumming. There is a bit of american primitive guitar here too.
https://taivaskivi.bandcamp.com/album/lex-bothnia

Mentioning the acoustic primitive guitar, one could also mention Samuli Näsi. Have the tape and seen his only gig. There is modest noise connections here. I recall it was Residual who did some finishing touches for the mastering.
https://brownhillmafia.bandcamp.com/album/ruckus

Of course over here, Pyhä Kuolema, Tervahäät, Kaarna, all that doing things as always, but it probably doesn't seem very visible outside Finland?

I agree with Freakanimalfinland on this matter. I don't think that the spirit of neofolk is really compatible with the rise of "populistic" right in Europe at all. I view the essence of neofolk to be more elitistic, spiritual and ambivalent than the materialistic and more banal right-wing party politics. It is more rooted in industrial culture and hauntological considerations than party politics. It really transcendents the political left and right paradigm.

Quote from: Commander15 on October 16, 2024, 10:39:44 AM

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 30, 2024, 08:25:25 AMI would assume "rise of the right" happening in Europe may call for analysis what type of "right" it is. At least in Finland, they say we have the most right wing government at the moment, and I'd assume soundtrack for their worldview would be the bling bling hip hop pop music with a little dose of nostalgic finn rock, hah... 

Finnish neo folk, I guess language barrier may set it into margins of margins. Ruusuriimu is pretty new project that is both quite new, and not a right wing music project. When I first heard it, thought it does genre music pretty well, but that's about it. Seeing this live clip of their live gig displayed it is not all about sweet melancholic guitar strumming, but experimental elements play bigger role.
https://ruusuriimu.bandcamp.com/track/muistan-sinut-maa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyfuNvis36w

Not sure was it already mentioned, but Taivaskivi may not be "neofolk", but "expressionist acoustic guitar work", from project before Commando 15. It may work for those interested in acoustic guitar stuff that goes beyond the basic open chord strumming. There is a bit of american primitive guitar here too.
https://taivaskivi.bandcamp.com/album/lex-bothnia

Mentioning the acoustic primitive guitar, one could also mention Samuli Näsi. Have the tape and seen his only gig. There is modest noise connections here. I recall it was Residual who did some finishing touches for the mastering.
https://brownhillmafia.bandcamp.com/album/ruckus

Of course over here, Pyhä Kuolema, Tervahäät, Kaarna, all that doing things as always, but it probably doesn't seem very visible outside Finland?

I agree with Freakanimalfinland on this matter. I don't think that the spirit of neofolk is really compatible with the rise of "populistic" right in Europe at all. I view the essence of neofolk to be more elitistic, spiritual and ambivalent than the materialistic and more banal right-wing party politics. It is more rooted in industrial culture and hauntological considerations than party politics. It really transcendents the political left and right paradigm.

I think that notion is indeed correct. Neofolk as a whole truly seems to transcend any sort of straight line and especially modern day politics, it's certainly a lot more esoteric in general and probably because of it being rooted in industrial culture like mentioned before is the most likely reason why.

Quote from: Commander15 on October 16, 2024, 10:39:44 AMIt is more rooted in industrial culture and hauntological considerations than party politics.

A very classy way of saying "The Reich lost the war, the Aryan world empire will never happen, I'm going to sulk while strumming my guitar instead of trying to save what can be saved".

Quote from: DrRichard on October 17, 2024, 08:39:27 AM

Quote from: Commander15 on October 16, 2024, 10:39:44 AMIt is more rooted in industrial culture and hauntological considerations than party politics.

A very classy way of saying "The Reich lost the war, the Aryan world empire will never happen, I'm going to sulk while strumming my guitar instead of trying to save what can be saved".

Weird interpretation of my actual words, but ok.

Quote from: Commander15 on October 17, 2024, 09:05:45 AM

Quote from: DrRichard on October 17, 2024, 08:39:27 AM

Quote from: Commander15 on October 16, 2024, 10:39:44 AMIt is more rooted in industrial culture and hauntological considerations than party politics.

A very classy way of saying "The Reich lost the war, the Aryan world empire will never happen, I'm going to sulk while strumming my guitar instead of trying to save what can be saved".

Weird interpretation of my actual words, but ok.

Haha yeah...weird interpretation indeed. I gathered your point was that neofolk belongs to Industrial rooted beginnings, which I also agree and the culture and aesthetics are more esoteric than any political spectrum of concerns or sorts in the grand scheme of things. Where "your words" on the matter turned into a interpretive pity party for the 3rd reich, I find a bit lost and or a misguided interpretation, perhaps that is this individuals own interpretation and of course that is fine too, but certainly didn't find that stance of the genre to be the opinion of your own, based off previous comment.

I think if there was any sort connotation to any sort of right wing/fascistic type of leanings to neofolk it wouldn't be in this sentiment of poor me, low self esteem loss of "what could of been." I'd say if anything it would be a proper stronger sense of resurgence, or a re-awakening and a bringing fourth a new interest to a new generation to build such an enthusiasm that it could inspire such a grand re-awakening of a renewed occult interest, rather than some bitter our team lost the battle and now we're going to cry about it with acoustic guitars. When I think of a band like Death In June, I think their message comes across as pagan unity, to me, I sense if it's anything to do with right wing in it's sentiment, is that it's about bringing us back together and re-grouping our ideals and shaping them in different ways and recognizing our ingrained truths and finding those commonalities that belong specifically to us as "European blooded" type and celebrating those ideals that are specific together as one. I don't find this miserable bitter type of attribute, perhaps telling of past a tragedy, done musically in a melancholic fashion, but not being performed in a defeated sense, but in an uplifted way to inspire, learn and to grow from. Instead of wallowing in our defeats, we learn from them to be inspired and to become more clear and sharp in defending what is sacred to us or what it is we think is so near and dear and by using such stripped down primitive type of music to convey such a primordial emotion works very well at conjuring such deep rooted sentiments from within.

Then my loneliness closes in
So, I drink a German wine
And drift in dreams of other lives
And greater times

Quote from: DrRichard on October 18, 2024, 08:19:31 AMThen my loneliness closes in
So, I drink a German wine
And drift in dreams of other lives
And greater times

Funny you should choose that quote. I'm pretty sure "drinking German wine" was English slang for gay oral sex.

Actually, my original comment - along the lines of 'I was surprised there wasn't more of a market for neo-folk, considering the rise of the right in Europe' - was supposed to be a little facetious. Of course neo-folk is not party political (since nearly all the 'artists' see themselves as above politics in that sense) and is certainly esoteric, etc. Nevertheless, national romanticism and cultural pessimism are at the core of it. Doesn't make it remotely 'Nazi', of course.

Quote from: burdizzo1 on October 18, 2024, 05:16:26 PM

Quote from: DrRichard on October 18, 2024, 08:19:31 AMThen my loneliness closes in
So, I drink a German wine
And drift in dreams of other lives
And greater times

Funny you should choose that quote. I'm pretty sure "drinking German wine" was English slang for gay oral sex.

Actually, my original comment - along the lines of 'I was surprised there wasn't more of a market for neo-folk, considering the rise of the right in Europe' - was supposed to be a little facetious. Of course neo-folk is not party political (since nearly all the 'artists' see themselves as above politics in that sense) and is certainly esoteric, etc. Nevertheless, national romanticism and cultural pessimism are at the core of it. Doesn't make it remotely 'Nazi', of course.

It's well known that Douglas is gay but I think those particular lyrics are literal and not some gay innuendo. Is Operation Hummingbird English slang for a homosexual fellatio party? I hope not because that album is next level, like a mix of Death in June and Der Blutharsch; psychedelic martial noise folk.

Quote from: burdizzo1 on October 18, 2024, 05:16:26 PM

Quote from: DrRichard on October 18, 2024, 08:19:31 AMThen my loneliness closes in
So, I drink a German wine
And drift in dreams of other lives
And greater times

Funny you should choose that quote. I'm pretty sure "drinking German wine" was English slang for gay oral sex.

Actually, my original comment - along the lines of 'I was surprised there wasn't more of a market for neo-folk, considering the rise of the right in Europe' - was supposed to be a little facetious. Of course neo-folk is not party political (since nearly all the 'artists' see themselves as above politics in that sense) and is certainly esoteric, etc. Nevertheless, national romanticism and cultural pessimism are at the core of it. Doesn't make it remotely 'Nazi', of course.

Man, I'm just fucking around too

Quote from: PSYWARRIOR84 on October 18, 2024, 07:28:53 PM

Quote from: burdizzo1 on October 18, 2024, 05:16:26 PM

Quote from: DrRichard on October 18, 2024, 08:19:31 AMThen my loneliness closes in
So, I drink a German wine
And drift in dreams of other lives
And greater times

Funny you should choose that quote. I'm pretty sure "drinking German wine" was English slang for gay oral sex.

Actually, my original comment - along the lines of 'I was surprised there wasn't more of a market for neo-folk, considering the rise of the right in Europe' - was supposed to be a little facetious. Of course neo-folk is not party political (since nearly all the 'artists' see themselves as above politics in that sense) and is certainly esoteric, etc. Nevertheless, national romanticism and cultural pessimism are at the core of it. Doesn't make it remotely 'Nazi', of course.

It's well known that Douglas is gay but I think those particular lyrics are literal and not some gay innuendo. Is Operation Hummingbird English slang for a homosexual fellatio party? I hope not because that album is next level, like a mix of Death in June and Der Blutharsch; psychedelic martial noise folk.

You know well to what Operation Hummingbird refers to, I'd say! As for "drinking German wine"... Well, the phrase also crops up on Throbbing Gristle's song, "Very Friendly", and I'd be fairly certain it's as I suggested. Besides, Douglas' lyrics are far more often veiled than literal. Do I need to explain any more?!!

according to myra they did drink german wine. it is not innuendo.

Quote from: XXX on October 18, 2024, 10:58:23 PMaccording to myra they did drink german wine. it is not innuendo.

Well, I always took it to have a double meaning. And Gen's intonation would suggest the same.

Quote from: burdizzo1 on October 18, 2024, 10:50:34 PM

Quote from: PSYWARRIOR84 on October 18, 2024, 07:28:53 PM

Quote from: burdizzo1 on October 18, 2024, 05:16:26 PM

Quote from: DrRichard on October 18, 2024, 08:19:31 AMThen my loneliness closes in
So, I drink a German wine
And drift in dreams of other lives
And greater times

Funny you should choose that quote. I'm pretty sure "drinking German wine" was English slang for gay oral sex.

Actually, my original comment - along the lines of 'I was surprised there wasn't more of a market for neo-folk, considering the rise of the right in Europe' - was supposed to be a little facetious. Of course neo-folk is not party political (since nearly all the 'artists' see themselves as above politics in that sense) and is certainly esoteric, etc. Nevertheless, national romanticism and cultural pessimism are at the core of it. Doesn't make it remotely 'Nazi', of course.

It's well known that Douglas is gay but I think those particular lyrics are literal and not some gay innuendo. Is Operation Hummingbird English slang for a homosexual fellatio party? I hope not because that album is next level, like a mix of Death in June and Der Blutharsch; psychedelic martial noise folk.

You know well to what Operation Hummingbird refers to, I'd say! As for "drinking German wine"... Well, the phrase also crops up on Throbbing Gristle's song, "Very Friendly", and I'd be fairly certain it's as I suggested. Besides, Douglas' lyrics are far more often veiled than literal. Do I need to explain any more?!!

No need for further explanation... I hope you enjoy your German wine at Operation Hummingbird this evening!

Quote from: PSYWARRIOR84 on October 19, 2024, 05:03:23 AM

Quote from: burdizzo1 on October 18, 2024, 10:50:34 PM

Quote from: PSYWARRIOR84 on October 18, 2024, 07:28:53 PM

Quote from: burdizzo1 on October 18, 2024, 05:16:26 PM

Quote from: DrRichard on October 18, 2024, 08:19:31 AMThen my loneliness closes in
So, I drink a German wine
And drift in dreams of other lives
And greater times

Funny you should choose that quote. I'm pretty sure "drinking German wine" was English slang for gay oral sex.

Actually, my original comment - along the lines of 'I was surprised there wasn't more of a market for neo-folk, considering the rise of the right in Europe' - was supposed to be a little facetious. Of course neo-folk is not party political (since nearly all the 'artists' see themselves as above politics in that sense) and is certainly esoteric, etc. Nevertheless, national romanticism and cultural pessimism are at the core of it. Doesn't make it remotely 'Nazi', of course.

It's well known that Douglas is gay but I think those particular lyrics are literal and not some gay innuendo. Is Operation Hummingbird English slang for a homosexual fellatio party? I hope not because that album is next level, like a mix of Death in June and Der Blutharsch; psychedelic martial noise folk.

You know well to what Operation Hummingbird refers to, I'd say! As for "drinking German wine"... Well, the phrase also crops up on Throbbing Gristle's song, "Very Friendly", and I'd be fairly certain it's as I suggested. Besides, Douglas' lyrics are far more often veiled than literal. Do I need to explain any more?!!

No need for further explanation... I hope you enjoy your German wine at Operation Hummingbird this evening!

Never liked Operation Hummingbird. I can understand why more industrial inclined individuals would, but for me DIJ was best when they sounded more post punk/cold wave. I really like Nada above all other DIJ material and folks who are interested in the "Nada" era sound, I highly recommend checking out Tony Wakeford's Above The Ruins project, after he was asked to leave DIJ he started that project, in the vein of Joy Division and post punk stuff with a more occult vibe.

Quote from: PSYWARRIOR84 on October 19, 2024, 05:03:23 AM

Quote from: burdizzo1 on October 18, 2024, 10:50:34 PM

Quote from: PSYWARRIOR84 on October 18, 2024, 07:28:53 PM

Quote from: burdizzo1 on October 18, 2024, 05:16:26 PM

Quote from: DrRichard on October 18, 2024, 08:19:31 AMThen my loneliness closes in
So, I drink a German wine
And drift in dreams of other lives
And greater times

Funny you should choose that quote. I'm pretty sure "drinking German wine" was English slang for gay oral sex.

Actually, my original comment - along the lines of 'I was surprised there wasn't more of a market for neo-folk, considering the rise of the right in Europe' - was supposed to be a little facetious. Of course neo-folk is not party political (since nearly all the 'artists' see themselves as above politics in that sense) and is certainly esoteric, etc. Nevertheless, national romanticism and cultural pessimism are at the core of it. Doesn't make it remotely 'Nazi', of course.

It's well known that Douglas is gay but I think those particular lyrics are literal and not some gay innuendo. Is Operation Hummingbird English slang for a homosexual fellatio party? I hope not because that album is next level, like a mix of Death in June and Der Blutharsch; psychedelic martial noise folk.

You know well to what Operation Hummingbird refers to, I'd say! As for "drinking German wine"... Well, the phrase also crops up on Throbbing Gristle's song, "Very Friendly", and I'd be fairly certain it's as I suggested. Besides, Douglas' lyrics are far more often veiled than literal. Do I need to explain any more?!!

No need for further explanation... I hope you enjoy your German wine at Operation Hummingbird this evening!

Ha ha! Not a wine man, myself - but thanks, all the same. Heilige, as they say!

Not sure how many noticed yet VON THRONSTAHL new material? Very much in the neofolk realm. Track translates something like "In the reverse of turning time", and track includes pretty lengthy manifest related to Ukraina situation. It may be curious, people tend to have quite different views on what is going on there. I am not surprised that in germany, people are critical against USA imperialist moves and see themselves in middle of russian/usa conflict, rather than something precisely about Ukraine or their own native lands. In Finland, due historical reasons, question is pretty simple.
However, it what he is talking about in the "manifest", seeing how odd it is to see how rebellious underground movements these days line-up in support, endorsement for some particular side (I suppose you can pick any. Palestine/Israel, Ukraine, covid related things etc..) and very often it is something that was formerly furiously frowned upon. Like punks lining up as propagandists of big pharma or state media institutions and so on. While in past, it would be almost unheard underground bands or people would rally in favor of politicians in their social circles. Or be so preoccupied in daily politics that they could not think any nuance and complexity of situation, just these dull management level questions.

I don't know exactly what Von Thronstahl is saying in song, but I am pretty sure that its some sort of protest song and bound to stir polemic like artist has done in past, hah.. I would assume return of polemic neofolk could be good thing, if there is certain level of ambiguyity there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQV78GnusAw

Hardly any ambiguity here. An aimless lament on geopolitics with an unhealthy dose of self-righteous prophesizing on the moral Zeitgeist. Also quite a mainstream opinion in modern germanophone political discourse, with parties close to a majority on both ends of the spectrum ruminating the talking points for a russki mir. Surprisingly especially in the eastern German Länder, the part of this country tantalized by soviet imperialism.

Very Thronstahlesque indeed, however what a tiresome song. Revolt has surely not turned into style with this one. This has about as much aesthetic aspiration as uncle Helmuth's whatsapp feed. I will stick to Bellum, sacrum bellum or Sacrificare and kindly ignore this puny escapade.

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 20, 2024, 10:16:23 AMNot sure how many noticed yet VON THRONSTAHL new material? Very much in the neofolk realm. Track translates something like "In the reverse of turning time", and track includes pretty lengthy manifest related to Ukraina situation. It may be curious, people tend to have quite different views on what is going on there. I am not surprised that in germany, people are critical against USA imperialist moves and see themselves in middle of russian/usa conflict, rather than something precisely about Ukraine or their own native lands. In Finland, due historical reasons, question is pretty simple.


However, it what he is talking about in the "manifest", seeing how odd it is to see how rebellious underground movements these days line-up in support, endorsement for some particular side (I suppose you can pick any. Palestine/Israel, Ukraine, covid related things etc..) and very often it is something that was formerly furiously frowned upon. Like punks lining up as propagandists of big pharma or state media institutions and so on. While in past, it would be almost unheard underground bands or people would rally in favor of politicians in their social circles. Or be so preoccupied in daily politics that they could not think any nuance and complexity of situation, just these dull management level questions.

I don't know exactly what Von Thronstahl is saying in song, but I am pretty sure that its some sort of protest song and bound to stir polemic like artist has done in past, hah.. I would assume return of polemic neofolk could be good thing, if there is certain level of ambiguyity there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQV78GnusAw

It's a great song and amazing video but I am confused of what the message is. The symbolism in the video could be a great artistic representation of what I think it may be going against the war machine programming but I could be completely wrong since it's tagged #Ukraine.... Usually anything tagged #Ukraine is mindless bullshit that falls into the trappings of Psychological Warfare. The Rider of Conquest is both Christ and Antichrist which is symbolized by the white Horse. It was much easier to separate the art from the artist in the past but I have noticed a great divide recently, like never before. I can't support labels like Old Captain who's ethics allign perfectly with the mainstream sewage propaganda... "Hail Israel, Glory to Ukraine."...If this song is the same bullshit war propaganda, they can fuck off because that is nothing more than Bilderberg group think spreading into underground music. Underground music shouldn't support the war machine, big pharma, or any mainstream propaganda designed to make people agreeable to their own downfall. Also, the ones that think they are anti-establishment, the Punks for example, are the biggest supporters of medical tyranny and mega war corporations...

It's all a complete farce that a country like US&A is sending trillions of our monopoly money to Ukraine but only send thousands to their own people devastated by the Hurricanes. Also, the Hunter Biden money laundering that was going on in Ukraine well before the "war" is a red flag, not to mention their president is an actor. It seems like Ukraine was created to launder money and fester corruption... How anyone can stand with that is mind numbing.

Quote from: PSYWARRIOR84 on October 21, 2024, 12:49:58 AM

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 20, 2024, 10:16:23 AMNot sure how many noticed yet VON THRONSTAHL new material? Very much in the neofolk realm. Track translates something like "In the reverse of turning time", and track includes pretty lengthy manifest related to Ukraina situation. It may be curious, people tend to have quite different views on what is going on there. I am not surprised that in germany, people are critical against USA imperialist moves and see themselves in middle of russian/usa conflict, rather than something precisely about Ukraine or their own native lands. In Finland, due historical reasons, question is pretty simple.


However, it what he is talking about in the "manifest", seeing how odd it is to see how rebellious underground movements these days line-up in support, endorsement for some particular side (I suppose you can pick any. Palestine/Israel, Ukraine, covid related things etc..) and very often it is something that was formerly furiously frowned upon. Like punks lining up as propagandists of big pharma or state media institutions and so on. While in past, it would be almost unheard underground bands or people would rally in favor of politicians in their social circles. Or be so preoccupied in daily politics that they could not think any nuance and complexity of situation, just these dull management level questions.

I don't know exactly what Von Thronstahl is saying in song, but I am pretty sure that its some sort of protest song and bound to stir polemic like artist has done in past, hah.. I would assume return of polemic neofolk could be good thing, if there is certain level of ambiguyity there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQV78GnusAw

It's a great song and amazing video but I am confused of what the message is. The symbolism in the video could be a great artistic representation of what I think it may be but I could be completely wrong since it's tagged #Ukraine.... Usually anything tagged #Ukraine is mindless bullshit that falls into the trappings of Psychological Warfare. The Rider of Conquest is both Christ and Antichrist which is symbolized by the white Horse. It was much easier to separate the art from the artist in the past but I have noticed a great divide recently, like never before. I can't support labels like Old Captain who's ethics allign perfectly with the mainstream sewage propaganda... "Hail Israel, Glory to Ukraine."...If this song is the same bullshit war propaganda, they can fuck off because that is nothing more than Bilderberg group think spreading into underground music. Underground music shouldn't support the war machine, big pharma, or any mainstream propaganda designed to make people agreeable to their own downfall. Also, the ones that think they are anti-establishment, the Punks for example, are the biggest supporters of medical tyranny and mega war corporations...

It's all a complete farce that a country like US&A is sending trillions of our monopoly money to Ukraine but only send thousands to their own people devastated by the Hurricanes. Also, the Hunter Biden money laundering that was going on in Ukraine well before the "war" is a red flag, not to mention their president is an actor. It seems like Ukraine was created to launder money and fester corruption... How anyone can stand with that is mind numbing.

Nobody in America really cares or stands with "Ukraine" anyways. It's yet another far left progressive stance in America that bleeding heart type put out yard signs on their freshly cut green grass, just another virtue signal moment from ivory tower Marxists. I've always been under the impression Ukraine has relied heavily on the Azov battalion as their official, yet unofficial military presence in the event of boots on the ground combat, that if these progressives looked into would be severely annoyed, all the while condeming anyone for anything as being "far right" that goes against their Marxist agenda. I'd imagine most Americans have no idea of what the war over there is like in general. I know some peoples living in both Ukraine and Russia and the general view I've received is that the war sucks and just needs to end already! America is throwing it's useless monopoly money down the toliet all of the time, if not at Ukraine at other dumb useless shit that only advances the nation further down the pits and as is the rest of western civilization. I think it's yet another way to speed up the inevitably towards this grand old reset. We will probably be heading into world war 3 soon, because after all, when inflation is at all time highs and currency becomes inevitably worthless... Their last resort is to bring upon war!

Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 21, 2024, 01:35:12 AM

Quote from: PSYWARRIOR84 on October 21, 2024, 12:49:58 AM

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 20, 2024, 10:16:23 AMNot sure how many noticed yet VON THRONSTAHL new material? Very much in the neofolk realm. Track translates something like "In the reverse of turning time", and track includes pretty lengthy manifest related to Ukraina situation. It may be curious, people tend to have quite different views on what is going on there. I am not surprised that in germany, people are critical against USA imperialist moves and see themselves in middle of russian/usa conflict, rather than something precisely about Ukraine or their own native lands. In Finland, due historical reasons, question is pretty simple.


However, it what he is talking about in the "manifest", seeing how odd it is to see how rebellious underground movements these days line-up in support, endorsement for some particular side (I suppose you can pick any. Palestine/Israel, Ukraine, covid related things etc..) and very often it is something that was formerly furiously frowned upon. Like punks lining up as propagandists of big pharma or state media institutions and so on. While in past, it would be almost unheard underground bands or people would rally in favor of politicians in their social circles. Or be so preoccupied in daily politics that they could not think any nuance and complexity of situation, just these dull management level questions.

I don't know exactly what Von Thronstahl is saying in song, but I am pretty sure that its some sort of protest song and bound to stir polemic like artist has done in past, hah.. I would assume return of polemic neofolk could be good thing, if there is certain level of ambiguyity there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQV78GnusAw

It's a great song and amazing video but I am confused of what the message is. The symbolism in the video could be a great artistic representation of what I think it may be but I could be completely wrong since it's tagged #Ukraine.... Usually anything tagged #Ukraine is mindless bullshit that falls into the trappings of Psychological Warfare. The Rider of Conquest is both Christ and Antichrist which is symbolized by the white Horse. It was much easier to separate the art from the artist in the past but I have noticed a great divide recently, like never before. I can't support labels like Old Captain who's ethics allign perfectly with the mainstream sewage propaganda... "Hail Israel, Glory to Ukraine."...If this song is the same bullshit war propaganda, they can fuck off because that is nothing more than Bilderberg group think spreading into underground music. Underground music shouldn't support the war machine, big pharma, or any mainstream propaganda designed to make people agreeable to their own downfall. Also, the ones that think they are anti-establishment, the Punks for example, are the biggest supporters of medical tyranny and mega war corporations...

It's all a complete farce that a country like US&A is sending trillions of our monopoly money to Ukraine but only send thousands to their own people devastated by the Hurricanes. Also, the Hunter Biden money laundering that was going on in Ukraine well before the "war" is a red flag, not to mention their president is an actor. It seems like Ukraine was created to launder money and fester corruption... How anyone can stand with that is mind numbing.

Nobody in America really cares or stands with "Ukraine" anyways. It's yet another far left progressive stance in America that bleeding heart type put out yard signs on their freshly cut green grass, just another virtue signal moment from ivory tower Marxists. I've always been under the impression Ukraine has relied heavily on the Azov battalion as their official, yet unofficial military presence in the event of boots on the ground combat, that if these progressives looked into would be severely annoyed, all the while condeming anyone for anything as being "far right" that goes against their Marxist agenda. I'd imagine most Americans have no idea of what the war over there is like in general. I know some peoples living in both Ukraine and Russia and the general view I've received is that the war sucks and just needs to end already! America is throwing it's useless monopoly money down the toliet all of the time, if not at Ukraine at other dumb useless shit that only advances the nation further down the pits and as is the rest of western civilization. I think it's yet another way to speed up the inevitably towards this grand old reset. We will probably be heading into world war 3 soon, because after all, when inflation is at all time highs and currency becomes inevitably worthless... Their last resort is to bring upon war!

Nothing brought out the hypocrisy, absurdity, and just plain myopic ignorance of the "progressives" on Ukraine than the incident last year where the Canadian Parliament virtue signaled their dedication to the cause by honoring a supposed Ukrainian "hero" of WWII, only for it to rapidly come out that the guy had fought alongside the Nazis and engaged in legitimate war crimes, ie, not just defending the homeland. After which, said "enlightened folk" promptly blamed their usual go-to boogeyman du jour, "right-wing disinformation," and proclaimed they were the REAL victims, before finally trying to memory hole the whole thing....

These are the same people that 20 years ago (quite rightly) decried the Iraq War. Turns out the only thing they really cared about was whether it was "their guy" giving the orders. Although, to be fair, while I wouldn't agree with most of their other politics, there are plenty of dissident elements on the Left that recognize the hypocrisy of the Ukraine grift in the West and have called out the fake progressives (really neoliberals) who cheer it on.

Anyway, this is probably taking things way off the original topic, so to tie it back to neofolk...

One darkly amusing thing about the Ukraine war is apparently Azov and some of the related far-right elements in the Ukrainian military make extensive use of the DIJ totenkompf, which led to numerous DIJ namedrops in mainstream Western media outlets where I never would have expected to see the name ever. Maybe Douglas P holds the secret key to peace and saving us alll from WWIII???

Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on October 21, 2024, 03:18:42 AM

Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 21, 2024, 01:35:12 AM

Quote from: PSYWARRIOR84 on October 21, 2024, 12:49:58 AM

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 20, 2024, 10:16:23 AMNot sure how many noticed yet VON THRONSTAHL new material? Very much in the neofolk realm. Track translates something like "In the reverse of turning time", and track includes pretty lengthy manifest related to Ukraina situation. It may be curious, people tend to have quite different views on what is going on there. I am not surprised that in germany, people are critical against USA imperialist moves and see themselves in middle of russian/usa conflict, rather than something precisely about Ukraine or their own native lands. In Finland, due historical reasons, question is pretty simple.


However, it what he is talking about in the "manifest", seeing how odd it is to see how rebellious underground movements these days line-up in support, endorsement for some particular side (I suppose you can pick any. Palestine/Israel, Ukraine, covid related things etc..) and very often it is something that was formerly furiously frowned upon. Like punks lining up as propagandists of big pharma or state media institutions and so on. While in past, it would be almost unheard underground bands or people would rally in favor of politicians in their social circles. Or be so preoccupied in daily politics that they could not think any nuance and complexity of situation, just these dull management level questions.

I don't know exactly what Von Thronstahl is saying in song, but I am pretty sure that its some sort of protest song and bound to stir polemic like artist has done in past, hah.. I would assume return of polemic neofolk could be good thing, if there is certain level of ambiguyity there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQV78GnusAw

It's a great song and amazing video but I am confused of what the message is. The symbolism in the video could be a great artistic representation of what I think it may be but I could be completely wrong since it's tagged #Ukraine.... Usually anything tagged #Ukraine is mindless bullshit that falls into the trappings of Psychological Warfare. The Rider of Conquest is both Christ and Antichrist which is symbolized by the white Horse. It was much easier to separate the art from the artist in the past but I have noticed a great divide recently, like never before. I can't support labels like Old Captain who's ethics allign perfectly with the mainstream sewage propaganda... "Hail Israel, Glory to Ukraine."...If this song is the same bullshit war propaganda, they can fuck off because that is nothing more than Bilderberg group think spreading into underground music. Underground music shouldn't support the war machine, big pharma, or any mainstream propaganda designed to make people agreeable to their own downfall. Also, the ones that think they are anti-establishment, the Punks for example, are the biggest supporters of medical tyranny and mega war corporations...

It's all a complete farce that a country like US&A is sending trillions of our monopoly money to Ukraine but only send thousands to their own people devastated by the Hurricanes. Also, the Hunter Biden money laundering that was going on in Ukraine well before the "war" is a red flag, not to mention their president is an actor. It seems like Ukraine was created to launder money and fester corruption... How anyone can stand with that is mind numbing.

Nobody in America really cares or stands with "Ukraine" anyways. It's yet another far left progressive stance in America that bleeding heart type put out yard signs on their freshly cut green grass, just another virtue signal moment from ivory tower Marxists. I've always been under the impression Ukraine has relied heavily on the Azov battalion as their official, yet unofficial military presence in the event of boots on the ground combat, that if these progressives looked into would be severely annoyed, all the while condeming anyone for anything as being "far right" that goes against their Marxist agenda. I'd imagine most Americans have no idea of what the war over there is like in general. I know some peoples living in both Ukraine and Russia and the general view I've received is that the war sucks and just needs to end already! America is throwing it's useless monopoly money down the toliet all of the time, if not at Ukraine at other dumb useless shit that only advances the nation further down the pits and as is the rest of western civilization. I think it's yet another way to speed up the inevitably towards this grand old reset. We will probably be heading into world war 3 soon, because after all, when inflation is at all time highs and currency becomes inevitably worthless... Their last resort is to bring upon war!

One darkly amusing thing about the Ukraine war is apparently Azov and some of the related far-right elements in the Ukrainian military make extensive use of the DIJ totenkompf, which led to numerous DIJ namedrops in mainstream Western media outlets where I never would have expected to see the name ever. Maybe Douglas P holds the secret key to peace and saving us alll from WWIII???

But isn't Douglas also selling signed lps on Facebook to give money to Ukraine?  He seems pretty into the whole thing too.  Funny to hear of the Azov connection, though, as I imagine that many of the musicians associated them would not be too thrilled about his "other" interests outside broad, right-wing politics...

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 20, 2024, 10:16:23 AMWhile in past, it would be almost unheard underground bands or people would rally in favor of politicians in their social circles. Or be so preoccupied in daily politics that they could not think any nuance and complexity of situation, just these dull management level questions.

Which leads to suggestion that topic can try to focus on neofolk, and leave generic geopolitics and such into other forums where you got abundance of such topics. I know I brought it up, but rather in discussion of artists.

Another great neofolk album I'm really hung up on that easily has a place right up there with the best of them, is Foresta Di Ferro - Bury Me Standing and I'm really pleased to have this album on CD in my own collection. This is one of those projects that completely understands the importance, aesthetics and proper approach to the genre that is neofolk in a way that gives a nod to the past demi gods, while holding their own foot print in the genre as something unique and yet very interesting! I'd say Bury Me Standing is not only a prerequisite to getting into the genre by and large, but should also be recognized as a top tier artist whom demands and commands the much deserved respect! Oak Leaf by itself is an absolute classic for the genre.

Quote from: xdementia on October 16, 2024, 10:11:36 AM

Quote from: unheimlich on September 30, 2024, 12:54:25 AMoff the top of my head besides the obvious larger artists I think early novy svet, voxus.imp, waldteufel, kulgrinda are all interesting. Could add more to the list later

Waldteufel's latest album is from 2007, is the project still active?

He played live extremely frequently throughout the 2010's, although the climate in Portland became ridiculous enough with antifa targeting him and getting him kicked off opening for Psychic TV, and generally gaslighting the narrative as they often do in such situations.

I don't believe the project is retired though.

What's funny is that Émile Waldteufel the composer was french and jewish. Don't know if that's who he took his name from, who knows. Even more funny is this neofolk artist has some sort of right wing sympathies, hah.

Bit like Éric Zemmour?

Quote from: burdizzo1 on October 28, 2024, 11:26:11 AMBit like Éric Zemmour?

Waldteufel the composer was not a politician, so not really comparable. I have no idea what beliefs Waldteufel had, politically or otherwise. I guess he could have been a zionist, who knows.

We just released a video for the title track of our latest album


And that album is now available on cassette from Small Offerings https://smallofferings.bandcamp.com/album/victory-defeat in addition to vinyl

Good riddance, Cranial Blast and that Warrior84 (what is your real name, warrior?, make it public, embrace responsibility), you are entitled to have your opinion no-one in Ukraine does give a shit. To even type ruZZia in upper case tells a lot, and your snowflake feelings are hurt as Ukrainians fuck pro-gaza scum off because they chant pro-iranian and pro-ruZZian slogans when Ukraine has literally been bombarded by iranian Shaheds day and night for 2.5 years... And then you assume you are fucking clueless what is going on here. The war, leftist imbeciles, with half a million of Ukrainians killed, that what has been on. And to appraise an openly anti-Ukrainian von thronstahl project while making fun of DIJ or Ukrainian heroes, Azov? As usual not a single word mentioned about the ruZZian genocide of Ukrainians - that's again USA, Israel, the West are guilty, but never is the sinkhole responsible for all the wars in the world for the last hundred years, ruZZia, right, you greta thumbergs? Whatever, at least the war triggers some to self-express themselves the way they would rather keep it secret otherwise. Don't really get it why you asked for distro if you hate us. Blacklisted.   

Some Finn neofolk was in the CD that was published 2 years ago. The music collection "Suomesta veljille Ukrainan", recorded in order to support the armed resistance of Ukraine. Like mentioned before, Finns tend to have pretty easy and straight forward approach which side we tend to lean.

Pyhä Kuolema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MVm86_sE1A

Stormheit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0zB5G5dbjk

Vapaudenristi
https://youtu.be/bNJ1d8EUNzc?feature=shared&t=745
(this "cd rip" is odd as first song has last song playing simultaneously on top of eachother, CD version doesn't have such thing, this track is correct version)

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 03, 2024, 08:08:10 PMSome Finn neofolk was in the CD that was published 2 years ago. The music collection "Suomesta veljille Ukrainan", recorded in order to support the armed resistance of Ukraine. Like mentioned before, Finns tend to have pretty easy and straight forward approach which side we tend to lean.

Pyhä Kuolema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MVm86_sE1A

Stormheit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0zB5G5dbjk

Vapaudenristi
https://youtu.be/bNJ1d8EUNzc?feature=shared&t=745
(this "cd rip" is odd as first song has last song playing simultaneously on top of eachother, CD version doesn't have such thing, this track is correct version)

Which was a great compilation. I especially enjoyed the first track on the album by Circle Of Dawn - Shekels, Roubles, Dollars, Euros And Blood. By far their strongest track ever. Goatmoon had a nice Misfits
Cover on there too. Anyone who hasn't picked that up, definitely should!

Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 26, 2024, 05:49:04 AMAnother great neofolk album I'm really hung up on that easily has a place right up there with the best of them, is Foresta Di Ferro - Bury Me Standing and I'm really pleased to have this album on CD in my own collection. This is one of those projects that completely understands the importance, aesthetics and proper approach to the genre that is neofolk in a way that gives a nod to the past demi gods, while holding their own foot print in the genre as something unique and yet very interesting! I'd say Bury Me Standing is not only a prerequisite to getting into the genre by and large, but should also be recognized as a top tier artist whom demands and commands the much deserved respect! Oak Leaf by itself is an absolute classic for the genre.

Thanks! More to come in 2025 if nobody of us perishes before

Another newer neofolk project that I wish had yet another tape reissue in a little larger and more obtainable quantities, as I've missed it a couple times now, would be Lightning Under Camouflage. It's another project by William Watts, A.S.K.E. Definitely some very interesting material and also has that more experimental approach to neofolk sound. That one has escaped me a couple times now, which sucks. Hopefully William will yet again reissue it or perhaps another label will in the future.

Yeah apologies, pulled a Keith and deleted my comment. But on second thought any discussion of Neofolk would probably need to involve notions of identity and/or politics as tied to Europe, what it might mean to be European, et cetera and so forth.

Zelensky has certainly come in for criticism from the start, for not responding aggressively enough to earlier threats, the seemingly politically motivated efforts to sideline Zaluzhnyi, the frequently questioned promotion of Syrskyi. But then to the question of what kind of leader the country would need in wartime. For better or worse, media savvy has long been the thing.

I deleted mine too. It was a knee-jerk response. I can't stand this guy.

Hm, don't know. Discussions about these subjects lead to an endless mess when many people are involved, like in a forum. Boss doesn't want this. I think he is right.

But as it seems I can't leave well enough alone, the question of the future of Europe lingers. As in, per the (previously linked now deleted) Fridman-Zelensky interview, Ukraine supposedly boasts 980,000 active troops (more recent article gives the number at 880,000), with Poland the next largest at approx 400K and France at 200K (plus nukes). Should Ukraine fall (and be hoovered into the Putin war machine) I would not think it unfair to ask what might become of Europe.

[OT The above comments brought into focus via the recent WCN interview with Chris/BISAD and the question of whether the noise community can survive global-level demographic shifts. The conclusion between the two was positive but...]

Out of guilt I here offer that The Gray Field Recordings finally returned from the dead (circa 2023) to issue She Sleeps To The Sound Of Knives (https://thegrayfieldrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/she-sleeps-to-the-sound-of-knives), sounding I'd venture like Coil might if they were trying to do Neofolk with a convincing stand-in for Rose.

A fantastic collection and new arrangements of Italian dark cabaret band ROMA AMOR's best work. https://klanggalerie.bandcamp.com/album/estemporanea

Quote from: xdementia on January 27, 2025, 12:20:07 AMA fantastic collection and new arrangements of Italian dark cabaret band ROMA AMOR's best work. https://klanggalerie.bandcamp.com/album/estemporanea

For me the best Roma Amor was the song they contributed to the OEC 7CD.

Been listening to the last two LPs from French group Swesor Bhrater lately. Outside the usual neo-folk axis, but neo-folkers should like it.

Thanks for the rec, I'll check it out

Quote from: xdementia on January 28, 2025, 03:53:34 AMThanks for the rec, I'll check it out

Aye, no bother. Especially liked this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X91GzkWvaK0

Their sound is sometimes neo-folk, sometimes more experimental, sometimes more post-punk, sometimes more synth... But usually pretty good. He's the brother of the lad that does Le Syndicat Electronique, a sort of minimal electro project.

That The Gray Field Recordings thing was really good! I've been listening to quite a lot of Wappenbund lately, not exactly neofolk, but affiliated to that scene anyway. The first album is still very strong IMO. I guess I like martial industrial when it's heavy on the industrial element.

More on topic: has anyone given the new album from Mars (The Dark River) a chance? I have only listened to the track "All is One". It has strong DI6 vibes.

Quote from: Phenol on January 28, 2025, 07:00:07 PMI've been listening to quite a lot of Wappenbund lately, not exactly neofolk, but affiliated to that scene anyway.

Back in the "glorious days" of martial industrial, Wappenbund was one of the best projects around (together with Triarii, Predella Avant and a few others).
Somewhat related, I've been revisiting the first two TMLHBAC albums, recently repressed (bootleg, of course), and, God, that was truly a wonderful time for this kind of stuff. That mix of minimal industrial, ambient, folkish/medieval tunes, cheesy synths, and Alzbeth's voice... Maybe there's a bit of nostalgia speaking here (once we were young), but I find those albums just as enjoyable today as they were in the past.

https://youtu.be/RVDDVqpgyzc?si=bGC2Ir7LyjSdnKGB
Dies Natalis
Brilliant Martial Folk, top tier art

Talking of martial and medieval folk... I think this is pretty phenomenal. No idea what film the clip comes from. Anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE5uMcThECQ

No idea which movie that is, but the music reminds me of sangre Cavallum. I like the primitivism of it - the celtic/medieval stuff can quickly become a bit too happy or new age-adjacent for my taste, but this avoids those pitfalls.

TMLHBAC were great, better than Der Blutharsch IMO, unfortunately the releases are sold at horrendous prices these days. I have all the CDs (doubles of a A New Soldier... and Rest..., both up for trade for similar stuff...), but not the vinyls which now seem unobtainable due to the pricetags. All the vinyl tracks are found on the Rest On Your Arms Reversed compilation anyway, so that's okay.

I saw quite a few of the big names live when they were on top and Triarii were among the best. I never really got onboard with them as home listening, though. Maybe I should dig out my old CDs and give them another go.

I'm not sure why, and perhaps it's just me, but it feels like the neofolk/martial movement is gainning a little bit of momentum at the moment after c. two decades of stagnation. I could certainly do with a revival/re-vitalization of that scene.

Quote from: Phenol on February 04, 2025, 03:16:20 PMI'm not sure why, and perhaps it's just me, but it feels like the neofolk/martial movement is gainning a little bit of momentum at the moment after c. two decades of stagnation. I could certainly do with a revival/re-vitalization of that scene.

I guess this could be related to the dungeon synth wave that came out in these last years.
But I don't know if this could lead to a martial industrial revival... it seems to me that it's a genre deeply entwined with a particular period in time (just like neofolk was, in one way or another).

Quote from: Phenol on February 04, 2025, 03:16:20 PMNo idea which movie that is, but the music reminds me of sangre Cavallum. I like the primitivism of it - the celtic/medieval stuff can quickly become a bit too happy or new age-adjacent for my taste, but this avoids those pitfalls.

TMLHBAC were great, better than Der Blutharsch IMO, unfortunately the releases are sold at horrendous prices these days. I have all the CDs (doubles of a A New Soldier... and Rest..., both up for trade for similar stuff...), but not the vinyls which now seem unobtainable due to the pricetags. All the vinyl tracks are found on the Rest On Your Arms Reversed compilation anyway, so that's okay.

I saw quite a few of the big names live when they were on top and Triarii were among the best. I never really got onboard with them as home listening, though. Maybe I should dig out my old CDs and give them another go.

I'm not sure why, and perhaps it's just me, but it feels like the neofolk/martial movement is gainning a little bit of momentum at the moment after c. two decades of stagnation. I could certainly do with a revival/re-vitalization of that scene.

Pretty sure all the TMLHBAC albums were reissued on double vinyl last year. All bootlegs, of course...

Did like Blutharsch, and most especially the early industrial stuff, but I agree - TMLHBAC were top class. Triarii were a project that had quite a few 'big hits', and then a certain amount of filler on albums. Who doesn't, eh? But now that you mention it, I haven't listened to their CDs in ages. Saw them live a couple of times, including once with Wappenbund. There was the hint of new material a few years ago, but nothing ever materialised. Maybe now is the time?!! I know Kraschau has a new one this month (more or less a tribute to LJDLP as far as I can gather), and Sturmast announced a new album some time ago, but nothing has surfaced so far. Some of the martial stuff became a bit 'over-produced', and somehow soulless? I think Sophia, for example, lost the touch, as did In Slaughter Natives (although they were prob. more 'industrial' than 'martial'). Anyway, I hope you're right about a resurgence!

I started on my neofolk journey with Rome's "Flowers From Exile" (which is one of the best records I've ever heard period, genre be damned) as well as "Armageddon Gigolo" by Spiritual Front (plus their INCREDIBLE split with ORE "Satyriasis" which, like the Rome album, is one of the best records I've ever heard period).

Really love OTWATM's "Nighttime Nightrhymes" a lot as well. Dark, chthonic, utterly heathen feeling.

Sad to say I've sort of lost track of the scene the past few years. I don't really know who's who and what's what.

Quote from: VORACLE on February 04, 2025, 09:52:11 PMI started on my neofolk journey with Rome's "Flowers From Exile" (which is one of the best records I've ever heard period, genre be damned) as well as "Armageddon Gigolo" by Spiritual Front (plus their INCREDIBLE split with ORE "Satyriasis" which, like the Rome album, is one of the best records I've ever heard period).

Agreed- all three of those are classics.

Quote from: Phenol on February 04, 2025, 03:16:20 PMTMLHBAC were great, better than Der Blutharsch IMO, unfortunately the releases are sold at horrendous prices these days. I have all the CDs (doubles of a A New Soldier... and Rest..., both up for trade for similar stuff...), but not the vinyls which now seem unobtainable due to the pricetags. All the vinyl tracks are found on the Rest On Your Arms Reversed compilation anyway, so that's okay.

I'm with you on TMLHBAC, they eclipsed pretty much everyone else from that scene. I was fortunate to see them three times - great memories! Especially one occasion in the courtyard of the fortress in Mainz, with the moon literally hiding beneath the clouds above. Magic! Also lucky to have been able to pick up all their 7" and 10" releases, as well as Alzbeth's book of lyrics with a personal dedication. Wonder what she's been up to lately? I remember her talking about some new solo project after the split with Albin, but that sadly never seemed to have materialized.

Quote from: post-morten on February 06, 2025, 11:54:05 PM

Quote from: Phenol on February 04, 2025, 03:16:20 PMTMLHBAC were great, better than Der Blutharsch IMO, unfortunately the releases are sold at horrendous prices these days. I have all the CDs (doubles of a A New Soldier... and Rest..., both up for trade for similar stuff...), but not the vinyls which now seem unobtainable due to the pricetags. All the vinyl tracks are found on the Rest On Your Arms Reversed compilation anyway, so that's okay.

I'm with you on TMLHBAC, they eclipsed pretty much everyone else from that scene. I was fortunate to see them three times - great memories! Especially one occasion in the courtyard of the fortress in Mainz, with the moon literally hiding beneath the clouds above. Magic! Also lucky to have been able to pick up all their 7" and 10" releases, as well as Alzbeth's book of lyrics with a personal dedication. Wonder what she's been up to lately? I remember her talking about some new solo project after the split with Albin, but that sadly never seemed to have materialized.

I'm very envious! I never got to see TMLHBAC live, but I have that unofficial box with a live DVD in it and it looks like I missed out. I saw Der Blutharsch a few times though. First in 1999 (I think it was) and again in 2001 before When "All Else Fails" came out. Great gigs, both of them. I think Alzbeth just kind of left like so many have done before. Maybe it's best, since she left a near perfect legacy.

I listened to "New Radical" by Krępulec yesterday and liked it a lot. Once again I find I like it more now than I did when it came out, so I'm clearly ready to embrace that style if new projects were to surface. Any new projects that might scratch that itch?

new Rosacrux single

Quote from: xdementia on April 19, 2025, 03:03:45 AMnew Rosacrux single

Sounds quite OK, but is it really neo-folk? All the trappings of goth. There's a line somewhere.

Quote from: burdizzo1 on April 19, 2025, 10:54:10 AMSounds quite OK, but is it really neo-folk? All the trappings of goth. There's a line somewhere.

Agree... I've always considered them a goth band (and as far as I know, they've always played in that context) — intelligent and original, but still goth.
By the way, I saw them playing live a few years ago and the show was amazing.

The new single sounds okay, but I was a bit caught off guard by the guitar part at the end... felt a bit out of place.

Quote from: xdementia on April 19, 2025, 03:03:45 AMnew Rosacrux single

not neofolk but one of the best live bands ever. between great music, original horror/gothic atmospheres, self built machines that are a fine work of funeral aesthectic and engineering, and superb performances. We gigged together in Zurich and was memorable. check the video collections