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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Mental Illness Representat...
Last post by Balor/SS1535 - February 20, 2024, 05:48:30 PM
Quote from: Commander15 on February 20, 2024, 12:20:50 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on February 20, 2024, 11:03:39 AMI recent times, I have come across at least three releases, where main part of the artwork of a release is artists in hospital bed. Be it suicidal behavior, medical condition or being victim of violence, still, first thing what I feel is expression.... narcissism? Of course that too, is a mental health condition when going to excessive level. It is curious difference of "artist photo" and "selfie", that is hard to put in words, but seems very obvious when you see it. And noise release that constitutes qualities of "selfie", seems a bit different thing than piece of art.

I certainly agree with you on your notions of narcissism and selfies. Might it be that those examples you gave are examples of social validation phenomenon seeping through from social media to the realm of industrial and noise? That has been all the rage past few years recieving lots of media coverage etc. I feel that it is closely connected with the self-victimization and gaining some kind of social leverage by assuming the position of an victim.

It's interesting that this comes up---there is a guy I have connected with over social media who does death industrial, but he seems to spend a lot more time posting selfies on Facebook then doing music.  I find it sort of off-putting, but then I remember that Atrax Morgue took a lot of pictures of himself too.  Still, they feel different.  I'm not entirely certain if I am fair in being fine with one but not the other, thought.
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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Mental Illness Representat...
Last post by Commander15 - February 20, 2024, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 20, 2024, 03:06:34 PMVery nice thread, I have a little confession to make on the topic.

For the third time in my life my mind has been affecting my body and daily life compromising many things and this is surely influencing my own work, not only because of slowing down/stopping activities having people being disappointed at me, but also as a different approach to sound. More painful, more repetitive, etc.
Nothing news.

I don't have a mental disorder, I'm not mentally ill, but not being fully operative due to a temporary condition that previously affected other members in my family as I have been is really rising difficulties.

The next wertham full length has been in the works for over a decade, it's entitled Bodies under siege and started as an external observation of specific issues people have with the unacceptance of their bodies, but it's s slowly turning into a personal experience about really living my own mind and body as an enemy. Nothing new and nothing as extreme as other works, even of "acclaimed" contemporary artists who were obsessed with the same topic from the  60s onwards, but I think it works in PE context. I always tried to observe from the outside the topics I used in concept, often impersonating the characters using the "I/Me" rather than the "them/they" (no non-binary pun intended). Now this detachment I always had is becoming difficult to use.

Atrax Morgue, SPK, Stabat Mors and many otherse went deep in these topics in very sensitive way.


One's own body as an enemy, or other body horror of a sort, could be a fruitful theme. I've toyed with an idea  of doing some multiple sclerosis -themed art as i've had MS for about 10 years, but in the end it felt a bit too... Self-centered and uninteresting, at least to me. I think that long-term illnesses in general are good themes for noise / industrial, nothing wrong with them at all.
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Live Show Announcements / Re: Sturmes Reigen (Germany) A...
Last post by Sol Records - February 20, 2024, 03:55:12 PM
Regarding Accomodation:

Check out our downloadable list of nearby accommodations with available capacities. All within 5 to 20 minutes from the location.

Download here

It is also possible to set up tents on the event area for free.
Hot water (e.g. for hot-water bottles) will be available free of charge.
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Live Show Announcements / 15-16.3.24 Aprapat/Mogao/Amek-...
Last post by piisti - February 20, 2024, 03:36:43 PM
Aprapat / Mogao / Amek-Maj live;

15.3 Dagjämningsgatan 15, Gothenburg
16.3 Bernt Ankers gate 21, Oslo

https://satatuhatta.bandcamp.com/
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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Mental Illness Representat...
Last post by tiny_tove - February 20, 2024, 03:06:34 PM
Very nice thread, I have a little confession to make on the topic.

For the third time in my life my mind has been affecting my body and daily life compromising many things and this is surely influencing my own work, not only because of slowing down/stopping activities having people being disappointed at me, but also as a different approach to sound. More painful, more repetitive, etc.
Nothing news.

I don't have a mental disorder, I'm not mentally ill, but not being fully operative due to a temporary condition that previously affected other members in my family as I have been is really rising difficulties.

The next wertham full length has been in the works for over a decade, it's entitled Bodies under siege and started as an external observation of specific issues people have with the unacceptance of their bodies, but it's s slowly turning into a personal experience about really living my own mind and body as an enemy. Nothing new and nothing as extreme as other works, even of "acclaimed" contemporary artists who were obsessed with the same topic from the  60s onwards, but I think it works in PE context. I always tried to observe from the outside the topics I used in concept, often impersonating the characters using the "I/Me" rather than the "them/they" (no non-binary pun intended). Now this detachment I always had is becoming difficult to use.

Atrax Morgue, SPK, Stabat Mors and many otherse went deep in these topics in very sensitive way.
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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Mental Illness Representat...
Last post by Commander15 - February 20, 2024, 12:20:50 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on February 20, 2024, 11:03:39 AMI recent times, I have come across at least three releases, where main part of the artwork of a release is artists in hospital bed. Be it suicidal behavior, medical condition or being victim of violence, still, first thing what I feel is expression.... narcissism? Of course that too, is a mental health condition when going to excessive level. It is curious difference of "artist photo" and "selfie", that is hard to put in words, but seems very obvious when you see it. And noise release that constitutes qualities of "selfie", seems a bit different thing than piece of art.

I certainly agree with you on your notions of narcissism and selfies. Might it be that those examples you gave are examples of social validation phenomenon seeping through from social media to the realm of industrial and noise? That has been all the rage past few years recieving lots of media coverage etc. I feel that it is closely connected with the self-victimization and gaining some kind of social leverage by assuming the position of an victim.
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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Mental Illness Representat...
Last post by Kayandah - February 20, 2024, 12:10:50 PM
Artist himself made the edits far as I can see
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GENERAL VISUAL ART / LITERATURE DISCUSSION / Re: Deaths / RIP
Last post by tiny_tove - February 20, 2024, 12:08:14 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on February 20, 2024, 11:56:22 AMStéphane of Nuit & Bruillard / Force Majeure / Deadly Actions Festival


damn. this is terrible. one of the first festival I've ever been to. I traded lots of stuff with him back in the days and thanks to those festivals I befriended most people I worked with since then...
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GENERAL VISUAL ART / LITERATURE DISCUSSION / Re: Deaths / RIP
Last post by FreakAnimalFinland - February 20, 2024, 11:56:22 AM
Stéphane of Nuit & Bruillard / Force Majeure / Deadly Actions Festival
#10
GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: PLAYLIST with COMMENTS/REV...
Last post by FreakAnimalFinland - February 20, 2024, 11:44:09 AM
Quote from: Fistfuck Masonanie on February 18, 2024, 01:40:26 AMI admit that I miss a bit of the feel and style of the first two tapes on this CD, but it does feel like all of the releases build up to this moment and it's a very unique-sounding and harsh album. Really excited for all future releases by Commando 15 and an incredible showing of material thus far.

Very first tape - just private tape with some stuff, was full on pedal harsh noise. Something more like 2005 USA harsh noise could be. Then first published C15 track (as far as I know) appears on Terässinfonia comp series. On that one, also very very different from what tapes were going to be. Considering this, it feels that C15 doesn't necessarily have firmly set "style" where he will stay, but we may expect surprises when so far each time is something a bit (or a LOT) different.

Quote from: Manhog_84 on February 19, 2024, 10:52:16 AMShift / Sick Seed split cd
This made me go through Shift back catalogue. The earlier ones are a bit boring for me but I had forgotten how good the stuff from Bulk onwards is! Shift has quite unique sound and approach that makes it stand out from the PE acts. What resonates with me in Shift, is the feeling of dropping connections to surrounding society and building up hatred in isolation. Or at least this is the image I get in my head when listening to Shift. Track and album titles and cover arts amplify this. Morose and Ruminations with blurry images of leafless trees and hostile human figure. Maybe those two are my favorites, but Abandon comes close. I didn't care for the last track with guitar. Altamont Rising is also ace.

This split LP/CD is really good, even if I say so myself. Last copies of both formats. Shift indeed has different "phases". Perhaps you could even say that each release has its very own identity. What is the best thing, is that it just got better and better all the time.