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gear/tech/etc / Re: Trogotronic

Last post by Balor/SS1535 - Today at 02:02:46 AM

My Trogotronic 669v arrived in the mail today, and I have been playing with it throughout the evening.  While I am starting to get a grasp on some of the features, much of its functionality seems like it will take a while to get a clear understanding of.  It doesn't help too much that the instruction guide that it comes with is pretty minimal (maybe it's enough for others, but I am no synth expert).

Any tips for the 669 from those who have had it longer?

Also, thoughts on the brand in general?  Other favorite synths or gear from them?

Nelson is intentionally vague to promote experimentation/gatekeep.

However, he also responds to e-mails and when my first device (first model of 669, "3 button model" as he put it) was not working correctly/had grounding issues: he fixed it for free and gave updated warranty.

Nelson is more likely to go into a rant about Bebe and Louis Barron than instructions on how to use instrument.

From over a decade of owning 4 Trogotronic devices, my best advice is to spend a lot of time exploring different knob/button combinations and document knob settings as best as possible. Sometimes, it is not easy to replicate sounds especially unintended artifacts that are inherent in this type of synthesizer. Much like random sounds that can come from AM/FM radio if you fiddle enough.

If you feel lost in the current output/lost in space: sweep knobs and engage/disengage switches. Small turns of knobs can greatly alter sound or hardly alter sound at all. Large sweeps can usually do both. If sweeping a knob does nothing, switch to another.

That's been pretty much my approach to figuring things out---expect nothing from the "demos" and just experiment away.  My sense is that the knobs on the unit I have (will have to double check the model number) each influence the others in some way, making consistent usage rather difficult or even impossible.

Overall, the biggest challenge for me has been getting it to sound "not Trogotronic."  While I get that's what they are for (and why I bought it in the first place), I would like to subsume it into my own sound to some extent.  So far, running it through pedals has greatly lessened its power and/or simply made it sound weaker.

[WRATH]

#2

CLASSIFIED ADS / Re: Black Psychosis - new dist...

Last post by Black Psychosis - Today at 12:47:29 AM

In stock now -

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WRATH


MANHEM - Manhem (Wrath) TAPE in black case in black bag with 20 page A5 booklet, poster and inserts. Old forgotten recordings of hateful electronics filled with utmost bitterness and contempt for the modern world.

RATS NOIRS - Bienvenue aux enemis de l'Europe (Wrath) TAPE in soft polycase. Superb new album from this anonymous group

XE - Vala (Wrath) 2x TAPE – reissue of this album. Tapes come in soft polycase in black bag with 12 page booklet, poster and insert

XE - Vala (Wrath) 2x TAPE & DVDr – Art edition - reissue of this album. Tapes come in soft polycase in A5 tie & washer envelope with 16 page booklet, poster and inserts. DVDr contains videos for KKK and Dragon as well as brand new video for Jugend.

XE - KYLMÄNÄ JA KOVANA (Wrath) CD – ART EDITION - brand new 2026 album in 6 panel digipack. Comes in A5 tie & washer envelope with 12 page A5 booklet, hand made collage, insert, 2 A4 posters

XE – Rarities Vol. 3 (Wrath) CD – brand new edition in the Rarities series. Includes superb unreleased rehearsal track, brand new version of Aseveljeys and other tracks. Comes in 6 panel digipack

XE - Rarities Vol. 3 (Wrath) CD & DVDr Art Edition– brand new edition in the Rarities series. Includes superb unreleased rehearsal track, brand new version of Aseveljeys and other tracks. Comes in 6 panel digipack. All in A5 tie & washer envelope with 16 page A5 booklet, inserts and A4 posters

UNCLEAN - DEVIANTS/PENETRATION (Wrath) DVDR in black bag with 24 page A5 booklet, poster and inserts. Re-issue of WRATH 03 but with new booklet which fits with the video more accurately. Same video as original.

UNCLEAN - DEVIANTS/PENETRATION (Wrath) Art Edition. DVDR in white A4 tie & washer envelope with 24 page A4 booklet, poster and inserts. Each envelope is unique and comes with original hand made collage used in the booklet. Re-issue of WRATH 03 but with new booklet which fits with the video more accurately. Same video as original. Hand numbered edition of 24 

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Old Europa Cafe


DEAD BODY LOVE - Lo-Fi Power Carnage (30 Years Anniversary) (Old Europa Cafe) CD This album is widely considered a corner-stone of Harsh Noise Industrial. Best Italian Noise without compromises. 

MURDER CORPORATION - Sick Thoughts (Old Europa Cafe) CD brand new full album after about 10 years of silence.

CALIGULA031 - Land of Opportunity (Old Europa Cafe) CD Re-edition of the very limited 12" Lathe-Cut Vinyl + MC released on OEC early in 2016 with bonus tracks

GREY WOLVES / WERTHAM / SURVIVAL INSTINCT - Ramraiding thee Abyss (Old Europa Cafe) CD Re-Edition of the LP previously out on OEC. CD also includes the 4 tracks of the very limited music-cassette which was part of a special edition.

MERZBOW – Sporangium (Old Europa Cafe) CD SPORANGIUM is brand new "MERZSONIKS"!

LINEKRAFT - Silence (Second Expanded Edition) (Old Europa Cafe) 2xCD Best Industrial P/E muzak with a deep spirituality from the lands of the rising sun!

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[Craniorachischisis - Craniorachischisis (2018)]

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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: PLAYLIST with COMMENTS/REV...

Last post by groesk - January 29, 2026, 11:19:48 PM

Craniorachischisis - Craniorachischisis (2018)
pretty decent gorenoise, but not much else. has nothing else outside of pitched up gutturals and mostly repetitive drums. production does not help in making things more intense.

Homemade Snuff Film - Demo (2026)
cool gorenoise that was apparently made on accident due to guitar tuning issues on a goregrind band's recent album. so it was shipped out as a standalone project that may or may not get activity. hopefully it gets more releases than a single demo.

Intolitarian - Suicidal Allegiance (2016)
warnoise that is excessively repetitive. the drums have a really nice production. but the music stops and goes for 3-10 seconds at a time, then stops for 5 seconds. it's not because the tracks are short. and there's the nazi samples that don't make getting through this any better. but it is mercifully short.

#4

GENERAL VISUAL ART / LITERATURE DISCUSSION / Re: Satanic Panic Material

Last post by anusenvy - January 29, 2026, 10:50:29 PM

While doing research into Satanic Panic films I was introduced to Bob Larson. He has many on the subject but here is one in particular: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE8K-ONc4rE

#5

GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Looking for help on identifyin...

Last post by anusenvy - January 29, 2026, 10:21:00 PM

Hello all. I hope it is ok to post a new topic like this as new user.

I have begun documenting my efforts in trying to identify the artist of a bootleg tape I received as gift with another purchase. I know that there are a lot of insignificant bootlegs/anon tapes etc. but the more I dig the more I feel this artifact has potential to be very interesting.

Or it could be nothing more than some bullshit not even worthy to be in the noise-arch-archive-201110.

I have more information/online documents I'm trying to confirm about it that I can post later/send in DMs but I can confirm at least that I believe it is a bootleg recording of a live set from Japan in 1989.

Mediafire

Any info or theories are appreciated.

#6

GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Loneliness in noise?

Last post by anusenvy - January 29, 2026, 10:02:49 PM

I cannot confirm but I always felt Maso always had an air of isolation inherent in his work. I do not believe his style of performing, creating, and recording suggest much interest in outside help. I also assumed Maso was fairly shy after hearing a local noise friend talk about his experience meeting Maso for first time at his shop in Japan. Maso's recording endeavors have always made me appreciate solo endeavors. However, I do admit I do not know enough to say what is fact.

#7

gear/tech/etc / Re: Trogotronic

Last post by anusenvy - January 29, 2026, 09:48:30 PM

My Trogotronic 669v arrived in the mail today, and I have been playing with it throughout the evening.  While I am starting to get a grasp on some of the features, much of its functionality seems like it will take a while to get a clear understanding of.  It doesn't help too much that the instruction guide that it comes with is pretty minimal (maybe it's enough for others, but I am no synth expert).

Any tips for the 669 from those who have had it longer?

Also, thoughts on the brand in general?  Other favorite synths or gear from them?

Nelson is intentionally vague to promote experimentation/gatekeep.

However, he also responds to e-mails and when my first device (first model of 669, "3 button model" as he put it) was not working correctly/had grounding issues: he fixed it for free and gave updated warranty.

Nelson is more likely to go into a rant about Bebe and Louis Barron than instructions on how to use instrument.

From over a decade of owning 4 Trogotronic devices, my best advice is to spend a lot of time exploring different knob/button combinations and document knob settings as best as possible. Sometimes, it is not easy to replicate sounds especially unintended artifacts that are inherent in this type of synthesizer. Much like random sounds that can come from AM/FM radio if you fiddle enough.

If you feel lost in the current output/lost in space: sweep knobs and engage/disengage switches. Small turns of knobs can greatly alter sound or hardly alter sound at all. Large sweeps can usually do both. If sweeping a knob does nothing, switch to another.

#8

gear/tech/etc / Re: New noise synth DARK HARVE...

Last post by anusenvy - January 29, 2026, 09:39:27 PM

Design reminds me of Resonance Circuits. https://www.etsy.com/shop/ResonanceCircuits

Great sounds.

[Azure Admin]

#9

GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: YLEINEN NOISE FIILISTELY S...

Last post by Heppakirjat - January 29, 2026, 09:08:41 PM

Elektronimusiikkikonsertti @ Pyynikkisali

Azure Admin soitti 4...5 biisiä. Äänilähteet ilmeisesti VCV-rackista eli virtuaalimodulaarista, jota ohjailtiin fyysisillä ohjaimilla. Omia suosikkikohtiani oli sopivan tahdin sivusta soivat syvät 808-bassorummut tai vastaavat, jotka Pyynikkisalissa resonoivat kivasti.

Aku Karima soitti myös virtuaalilähteitä. Näitä höystettiin ilmeisesti lennosta manipuloidulla videolla. Ääni oli pätkivää, naksuvaa ja alati toimintahäiriöistä. Samoin video. Yhdistelmä toimi hyvin ja olo oli kuin ATK-alkulimassa kylpeneellä.

Jazzhand puolestaan soitteli ja väänteli nauhoilta kenttä-äänityksiä ja vanhoja ameriikan radioäänityksiä. Jotain kaikutehostetta tai vastaavakin pyöriteltiin. Tarinan puolesta keikka eteni Hollywoodin tähtösten ja Dodgersin baseball-tulosten saastan seasta seesteisempään luonnonrauhaan. Tai jotain tämän kaltaista ainkin minä olin kokevinani. Järkyttävän hyvä veto aivan kaikin puolin. Mutta mitä muuta voisi odottaa... olihan tässä kaikki karkkihyllyn lempparit eli nauha, kaiku ja kenttä-äänitykset keskiössä!

#10

GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: YLEINEN NOISE FIILISTELY S...

Last post by FreakAnimalFinland - January 29, 2026, 08:24:25 PM

Yksi mielenkiintoinen seikka joka taatusti vaikuttanut noisen paketointiin on se muutos jolloin noise siirtyi enemmän "myytäväksi tuotteeksi"? On paljon sellaisia julkaisuja, joiden olemassaoloa määrittää pitkälti se ettei ne olleet kummoisia painoksia. Tai ettei edes ollut mitään tiettyä "painosta". On aivan älyttömiä juttuja, joista ei oikein tiedä onko kyseessä vain yksittäinen älynväläys, esim. Pakata kenkä länkkäri buutsiin ja se on se julkaisu. Taatusti ei mikään ltd 100.
Ei tästä montaa päivää ole kun hiplasin kuiviin sian korviin kiinnitettyä ysäri kassua. Jos sellaisen tekisi nyt ja jotenkin ensisijaisesti "myyntiartikkelina" jonka voi ostaa paypalilla bandcampistä, tuntuu hieman jotenkin itsetietoisen teennäiseltä, eikä siltä hulluudelta jota tietyn ajan noise oli.

Noisecastin julkaisemassa Tribe haastattelussa sitä keskusteltiinkin, miten wanhassa noisessa oli monesti eri käsitys julkaisusta kuin vaikka nykyajan "discogs" dokumentarisoinnissa. On kuvat ja infot että tälläinen se julkaisu on, vaikka ennen oli mahdollista ettei välttämättä julkaisun kriteereihin kuulunut että ne olisivat samanlaisia. Tai edes samat noiset!

Siinä mielessä jonkinlaisen kahvipöytäkirja erikoispakatusta ja... pitäisikö sanoa "privaatti noisesta", jonkinlaisesta tekijöiden henkilökohtaisesta kommunikoinnista, voisi olla mielenkiintoinen! Esimerkiksi The Rita ukkeli on tainnut jossain haastattelussa mainita miten sen saamat MSNP julkaisut ei käytännössä koskaan olleet sellaisia mitä muilla on nähnyt. Deadline on toinen sellainen, että tuskin edes Ramirez itse tietää millaisia versiota tehnyt ja miten vähän mitäkin on olemassa! Tai Grey Wolves lafkan hommat, missä projektin omista kassuista lukematon määrä variaatioita. Se asettaa noisen asemaan mitä ei ole oikein missään muussa genressä (näin äkkiä ajateltuna). Painosten miettiminen ja mikä on "alkuperäinen" tai "oikea" jne saattaa olla huvittavia musabisneskeräilijöiden ajatuksia.

Kaikki mainitut kirja ideat kyllä kiinnostaisi jos joku toteuttaisi. Nythän noita "flyerit kirjaksi" hommia on tehty. Somessa pyörii industrial/noise kirjan mainos jossa kerätty flyerit ja keikkamainokset ja vastaavia on monista muista UG musa kulttuureista. Vaikutti vaan hieman sellaiselta "rahat pois" -projektilta ja hieman hirvittää että mistä lie pintrestistä kuvakaapattu matskut, heh...

Itse olen lähes järjestelmällisesti hankkinut kaikki noiseen viittaavat kirjat mitä vaan on tarjolla. Näinä päivinä pitää jo hieman varoa, kun nolla panoksen print on demand hommiin alkanut eksyä sellaista wikipediasta cut & pastella NON historia -tason kirjaa....

Viimeisin ostos oli Satatuhatta distrosta löytynyt Cassette culture kirjan toka painos. Siinä on myös noise asiaa. Electric Cottage zine mainittu aggressiivisine kirjepalstoineen. Terre Blanche skandaali kasarin/ysärin taitteesta olisi hauska anekdootti arvioida vuosikymmenten USA artistien kärhämän alkupistettä joka johti väkivallan tekoihin vielä 2010 luvulla,  RRR kiukustuminen LP referoitu korrektisti "eräs levy-yhtiö" tarinaksi jne. Monenlaista hauskaa olisi noisen historia täynnänsä jos oikein silmä kovana seuraa!