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Last post by Vrenndel - Today at 02:52:13 PM
Finished reading yesterday The Banshees of Inisherin by Martin McDonagh, which basically is the script of the movie, basically, with a couple cut scenes. I loved the movie, and couldn't not read the written version. For those interested in this kind of things, A24 Editions also put out some nice script books from their movie catalogue, with pictures and comments as well - they could be easily be seen as art books, in a way.
#2
I am a lover not a talker.
#3
Last post by Desolate - Today at 02:00:26 PM
Removals and additions.
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Last post by Vrenndel - Today at 01:46:38 PM
When it comes to underground stuff, or let's rather call it out-of-the-norm kind of interests and activities, in this case - as far as it is possible to define a "norm", I think loneliness and solitude - are they really the same thing ? - shouldn't necessarly be seen as negative things. Personally, as a kid, I had the chance of enjoying reading way more than hanging out with kids of my age that would rather be interested in other stuff which I do now also consider perfectly normal, even though back then I could have been seen as the strange one, always stuck in books or mentally lost in a fantasy world which seemed way more attractive than the real outside world. Also, growing up in the countryside limited social interactions outside of school for a long time, and finding/meeting people with the same kind of interests as mine wasn't that easy, but I do not regret all of these experiences.
I do agree about the fact that as a teen, for example, it feels good to meet with other people with the kind of interests and get some kind of input, or confirmation, but you're not sure about what you wanna do. I had the chance of meeting some of my best friends this way, and they unconsciously led me on what I think was the right path for me. After it, life has done whatever it has done.
Good experiences push you to seek other good experiences, and bad experiences push you to isolate yourself. Failed relationships, broken friendships, reality perception vs reality confrontation, and so on, all of these things can also lead to make the choice of solitude, even though I wouldn't necessarly describe myself as solitary person - I get along with people very fine, I like meeting like-minded or curious individuals, people open to discussing particular things, but I do also appreciate time alone, isolated from everyone, for the sake of mental health. So, I guess that solitude is a choice, but loneliness isn't.
A lot of people interested or being active in Noise music probably do feel lonely because it's not something everyone appreciates - musically talking - and when it comes to themes, ahah, you either meet someone as autistic as you are and share some nerd knowledge, or you get those estranged/confused facial expressions which in some cases honestly made question my mental health. Who's right and who's wrong ? Who can truly tell? I guess it matters only if you give some importance to it. When I was a kid I wouldn't have liked being called a weirdo, but as teenager I slowly and carefully turned it into something else - some kind of armour, let's say. I don't know if that was the right thing, but always better than feeling openly offended or morally and mentally brought down by someone "cooler".
As an adult, I definitely stopped caring and openly embraced this "weirdness". Does it make me feel lonely, sometimes ? Yes, it does. People tend to seek other people's confirmation and approval in some cases, and it's perfectly normal. The sight of others can shape the way we perceive ourselves, in a good way as well as in a negative way. It sure demands some efforts, or some distance (?) - i don't know if that's the right word choice in this case - but well, to everyone's its own, I guess.
To be honest, i think it's totally legit to be socially attracted to groups of people with the same kind of interests, otherwise, maybe even this kind of discussion would take place. But is it truly about input, in that case, or it's more of a purely intellectual interest? I sometimes don't have anything interesting to say about noise in general, but it sure can be refreshing to listen to others talking about particular matters, or, in this case, reading a lot of comments in similar threads.
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All art have it corner stones and lines to walk but it does not mean you have follow those steps like a sheep, most interesting walks are those paths what you haven not even take before and step to the unknown makes blood rush and make it worth or life gets boring.
Are tags or graffiti Art when them last only moment or American noise where living in the moment is the thing?
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Almost forgot to comment. Out of 2 hours episode, 30 mins beginning is kind of short piece to really comment anything. Feels little awkward to pretend as if 25% of interview could be even commented. Almost like reading the headlines and reacting on that, hah...
But anyways, I did listen it right away. Been appreciating Awenydd tapes since quite early ones. Was among people he was sending his self released tapes and project also appeared on Freak Animal International CD series.
In the interview, I one topic of interest is that... is noise limitless? There is moment when he mentions disliking when someone sets limits for noise. It comes out in sort of "noise can be anything", which obviously isn't true. I could assume discussion leaves out the obvious. More accurately, noise can be so many things, that I think it is clear we have not touched all the possibilities of expression. Still it doesn't mean it could be anything. These days you got people calling almost anything "noise". Sort of bandcamp tag or whatever. Once their indie-pop has little feedback on guitar, "noise" tag may appear. Or Black Metal band has little extra distortion on recording and suddenly black noise. And so on. Sort of Women of Noise -scene style. Nothing mean anything. Doesn't have to be noise to qualify there. It can be electro-pop or cute soundscapes. It doesn't have to be women. Just whatever goes.
I would say noise, to be relevant as word, does mean something. It would make language and terms totally obsolete if someone just concludes noise can be anything. Sure it can be a lot. Culturally, sonically, technologically, (etc etc) but there is still meaning why it is called noise.
I think in discussion it actually said that there is no limits in art, and it is no artistic if there are limits? I guess anyone who is involved in art, will find out that while artistic expression as a whole, may appear limitless, there are countless limitation and definitive elements that basically makes the art. You can go to as highly narrowed level as... Graphic art? As maker of graphic art, you will quickly realize how it is art, but also how obsessed just about everybody is to have definition and limitations of what they do. Most often, things such as "print making" isn't enough. You have each work defined is it engraving, etching, drypoint, mezzotint... or is it some sort of lithography, serigraph or something. In a way, the limitation makes the art. It's not like you accept HP lazer print on 80g office paper to be what someone did with lithography. Some or many, may use mixed tech, yet more common in modern art is indeed obsessive limitation to be just that.
Another thing is reducing ego. I think at the past, at least in my own case, some words were used in ways that looking back now, may not be accurate ways of using it. Like calling something ideological music, is in pretty much all cases not true, since ideological refers to some sort of set pretty inflexible doctrines. Which is rarely the case. Intention was to use word describe actual values or beliefs as opposed to fantasy or whatever. Same thing feels like in case of "no ego". I have been quite avid spokesman against ego in music, but it really is less about the psychological self and criticism and rejection was on ego related on inflated rock'n'roll personality, exaggerated self importance, necessity of fame or visibility for things that are not really the art itself. Therefore measures like not printing name, not putting out tons of portrait photos, not appearing often on video interviews, not keen on exposing unnecessary elements of "private life" etc. BUT, the things is of course, that if by removing ego would extend into level that we leave out the personality that shapes the art to be what it is, just semi-passively be outsiders in creations... what is that? Probably worse than ego-tripping! hah... Or, basically no different. Suddenly ego becomes issue, anyways. Back in the day, people would come to me to ask signature for album or whatever. It is odd, for sure, yet what was even more annoying was to realize how any reasoning you'd start to say, would appear in ways of "I am so special, so therefore I can not give you my signature for album cover", haha... so fuck that. It may be odd to be signing covers, but it ain't as lame as hyping it up as some sort of speciality to refuse it.
So in conclusion, I do think there IS "ego" in Awenydd that makes it good. Perhaps better call it personality. There is intention, there is taste, there is hands-on approach with every tape he sends out. Including hand written letters etc. This indeed is almost diametrical opposition of releases where we are indeed listening to machines. Programmed sounds that the operator of machine can't differentiate what is good and what is bad and why should he release something or not, who could he sent it to, why should it be listened by specific person etc. There is no shortage of that type of impersonal machine sound where we are listening synths or other gear, on level of equipment test, not on level of artistic expression.
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I can definitely say that noise/PE/DI has become a "coping mechanism" for me. Artists like Disgusting Sanctum/Agonal Lust, Atrax Morgue or Navicon Torture Technologies have helped quell some of the heavier negative moments in life. Plus the friends I've made through it/because of it and the current relationship I'm in being based on our mutual interest in it have been a great motivator for a curmudgeon like me.
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on Today at 03:51:34 AMI can say that some of the times that I feel the least lonely are when I am engaging with noise people at shows
Bingo to this, meeting you in person (on accident!) is still a hilarious moment for me.
#8
Maybe something like the project Griefer?
#9
DISTRO LIST:ATROFIA CEREBRAL / VAULT DEPROGRAMMER split cs (EMPTY CASKET AUDIO)
ANAL BUTT / VAULT DEPROGRAMMER split cs (SWEATLUNG)
THE PSYCHWARD CULT "Fuck Christmas: Hail Satanas!" 16 year reissue cdr (SWEATLUNG)
DEATH'S HEADBANGERS s/t cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
SEXOFAGO "Sexo, Drogas, Muertes" cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
VINCENT DALLAS / HAPPY cs (FUSTY CUNT TAPES)
V/A "I Am In Hell!" Volume 666 cs comp (FRENCH MARKET PRESS)
V/A "Bunyip Trax ~ Yeses & Noes" cs mixtape (BUNYIP TRAX)
CONEPUNCHER "Cig Gen" (HEAD TAPES)
OVMN / WOODS MATTRESS split cs (HEAD TAPES)
OUT SOON:DEATH'S HEADBANGERS vol. ii cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
PAINWARD - PSYCHWARD + PAIN APPENDIX (SWEATLUNG)
PSYCHWARD "Vomit Noise" reissue cd (NARCOLEPSIA + CIPHER PRODUCTIONS)
PSYCHWARD / WOODS MATTRESS "Hedonistic Outlaws of Scum" split cdr (SLAUGHTER EXHAUST)
SEXOFAGO "Torment & Ecstasy" 7'' (PURE HELLNOISE PROPAGANDA)
IZUMI KAWASAKI cd (HEAD TAPES)
LEGLESS cs (HEAD TAPES)
L.I.E. (LEGLESS + COST + NIKOS) cd (HEAD TAPES)
MAX JULIAN EASTMAN "Don't Get Around Much - Tonight Its You" reissue 2XCDR (HEAD TAPES)
VAULT DEPROGRAMMER + PUDDLE / TRASH COMPACTOR BURIAL split 7'' (R.I.P. PEACE)
V/A "From Meditation to Evisceration" vol. ii (SWEATLUNG)
- ft. VAULT DEPROGRAMMER, G.B.S., MANKIND'S DEVASTATION, FACIALMESS, CEREBRAL EROSION
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N.S.T.M. / F.O.A.D.
#10
DISTRO LIST:ATROFIA CEREBRAL / VAULT DEPROGRAMMER split cs (EMPTY CASKET AUDIO)
ANAL BUTT / VAULT DEPROGRAMMER split cs (SWEATLUNG)
THE PSYCHWARD CULT "Fuck Christmas: Hail Satanas!" reissue cdr (SWEATLUNG)
DEATH'S HEADBANGERS s/t cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
SEXOFAGO "Sexo, Drogas, Muertes" cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
VINCENT DALLAS / HAPPY cs (FUSTY CUNT TAPES)
V/A "I Am In Hell!" Volume 666 cs comp (FRENCH MARKET PRESS)
V/A "Bunyip Trax ~ Yeses & Noes" cs mixtape (BUNYIP TRAX)
CONEPUNCHER "Cig Gen" (HEAD TAPES)
OVMN / WOODS MATTRESS split cs (HEAD TAPES)
OUT SOON:DEATH'S HEADBANGERS vol. ii cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
PAINWARD - PSYCHWARD + PAIN APPENDIX (SWEATLUNG)
PSYCHWARD "Vomit Noise" reissue cd (NARCOLEPSIA + CIPHER PRODUCTIONS)
PSYCHWARD / WOODS MATTRESS "Hedonistic Outlaws of Scum" split cdr (SLAUGHTER EXHAUST)
SEXOFAGO "Torment & Ecstasy" 7'' (PURE HELLNOISE PROPAGANDA)
IZUMI KAWASAKI cd (HEAD TAPES)
LEGLESS cs (HEAD TAPES)
L.I.E. (LEGLESS + COST + NIKOS) cd (HEAD TAPES)
MAX JULIAN EASTMAN "Don't Get Around Much - Tonight Its You" reissue 2XCDR (HEAD TAPES)
VAULT DEPROGRAMMER + PUDDLE / TRASH COMPACTOR BURIAL split 7'' (R.I.P. PEACE)
V/A "From Meditation to Evisceration" vol. ii (SWEATLUNG)
- ft. VAULT DEPROGRAMMER, G.B.S., MANKIND'S DEVASTATION, FACIALMESS, CEREBRAL EROSION
sftg.bigcartel.comanalbroth666@outlook.com
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