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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: WHITE CENTIPEDE NOISE PODC...

Last post by FreakAnimalFinland - Today at 10:05:31 AM

Almost forgot to comment. Out of 2 hours episode, 30 mins beginning is kind of short piece to really comment anything. Feels little awkward to pretend as if 25% of interview could be even commented. Almost like reading the headlines and reacting on that, hah...
But anyways, I did listen it right away. Been appreciating Awenydd tapes since quite early ones. Was among people he was sending his self released tapes and project also appeared on Freak Animal International CD series.

In the interview, I one topic of interest is that... is noise limitless? There is moment when he mentions disliking when someone sets limits for noise. It comes out in sort of "noise can be anything", which obviously isn't true. I could assume discussion leaves out the obvious. More accurately, noise can be so many things, that I think it is clear we have not touched all the possibilities of expression. Still it doesn't mean it could be anything. These days you got people calling almost anything "noise". Sort of bandcamp tag or whatever. Once their indie-pop has little feedback on guitar, "noise" tag may appear. Or Black Metal band has little extra distortion on recording and suddenly black noise. And so on. Sort of Women of Noise -scene style. Nothing mean anything. Doesn't have to be noise to qualify there. It can be electro-pop or cute soundscapes. It doesn't have to be women. Just whatever goes.

I would say noise, to be relevant as word, does mean something. It would make language and terms totally obsolete if someone just concludes noise can be anything. Sure it can be a lot. Culturally, sonically, technologically, (etc etc) but there is still meaning why it is called noise.

I think in discussion it actually said that there is no limits in art, and it is no artistic if there are limits? I guess anyone who is involved in art, will find out that while artistic expression as a whole, may appear limitless, there are countless limitation and definitive elements that basically makes the art. You can go to as highly narrowed level as... Graphic art? As maker of graphic art, you will quickly realize how it is art, but also how obsessed just about everybody is to have definition and limitations of what they do. Most often, things such as "print making" isn't enough. You have each work defined is it engraving, etching, drypoint, mezzotint... or is it some sort of lithography, serigraph or something. In a way, the limitation makes the art. It's not like you accept HP lazer print on 80g office paper to be what someone did with lithography. Some or many, may use mixed tech, yet more common in modern art is indeed obsessive limitation to be just that.

Another thing is reducing ego. I think at the past, at least in my own case, some words were used in ways that looking back now, may not be accurate ways of using it. Like calling something ideological music, is in pretty much all cases not true, since ideological refers to some sort of set pretty inflexible doctrines. Which is rarely the case. Intention was to use word describe actual values or beliefs as opposed to fantasy or whatever. Same thing feels like in case of "no ego". I have been quite avid spokesman against ego in music, but it really is less about the psychological self and criticism and rejection was on ego related on inflated rock'n'roll personality, exaggerated self importance, necessity of fame or visibility for things that are not really the art itself. Therefore measures like not printing name, not putting out tons of portrait photos, not appearing often on video interviews, not keen on exposing unnecessary elements of "private life" etc. BUT, the things is of course, that if by removing ego would extend into level that we leave out the personality that shapes the art to be what it is, just semi-passively be outsiders in creations... what is that? Probably worse than ego-tripping! hah... Or, basically no different. Suddenly ego becomes issue, anyways. Back in the day, people would come to me to ask signature for album or whatever. It is odd, for sure, yet what was even more annoying was to realize how any reasoning you'd start to say, would appear in ways of "I am so special, so therefore I can not give you my signature for album cover", haha... so fuck that. It may be odd to be signing covers, but it ain't as lame as hyping it up as some sort of speciality to refuse it.

So in conclusion, I do think there IS "ego" in Awenydd that makes it good. Perhaps better call it personality. There is intention, there is taste, there is hands-on approach with every tape he sends out. Including hand written letters etc. This indeed is almost diametrical opposition of releases where we are indeed listening to machines. Programmed sounds that the operator of machine can't differentiate what is good and what is bad and why should he release something or not, who could he sent it to, why should it be listened by specific person etc. There is no shortage of that type of impersonal machine sound where we are listening synths or other gear, on level of equipment test, not on level of artistic expression.

GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Loneliness in noise?

Last post by prolapsedlielack - Today at 09:56:00 AM

I can definitely say that noise/PE/DI has become a "coping mechanism" for me. Artists like Disgusting Sanctum/Agonal Lust, Atrax Morgue or Navicon Torture Technologies have helped quell some of the heavier negative moments in life. Plus the friends I've made through it/because of it and the current relationship I'm in being based on our mutual interest in it have been a great motivator for a curmudgeon like me.

Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on Today at 03:51:34 AMI can say that some of the times that I feel the least lonely are when I am engaging with noise people at shows

Bingo to this, meeting you in person (on accident!) is still a hilarious moment for me.

GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Noise about the internet?

Last post by DismalChant - Today at 08:25:40 AM

Maybe something like the project Griefer?

GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: AUSTRALIA - Industrial / n...

Last post by morbid_dyspepsia - Today at 07:34:48 AM

DISTRO LIST:

ATROFIA CEREBRAL / VAULT DEPROGRAMMER split cs (EMPTY CASKET AUDIO)
ANAL BUTT / VAULT DEPROGRAMMER split cs (SWEATLUNG)
THE PSYCHWARD CULT "Fuck Christmas: Hail Satanas!" 16 year reissue cdr (SWEATLUNG)
DEATH'S HEADBANGERS s/t cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
SEXOFAGO "Sexo, Drogas, Muertes" cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
VINCENT DALLAS / HAPPY cs (FUSTY CUNT TAPES)
V/A "I Am In Hell!" Volume 666 cs comp (FRENCH MARKET PRESS)
V/A "Bunyip Trax ~ Yeses & Noes" cs mixtape (BUNYIP TRAX)
CONEPUNCHER "Cig Gen" (HEAD TAPES)
OVMN / WOODS MATTRESS split cs (HEAD TAPES)

OUT SOON:

DEATH'S HEADBANGERS vol. ii cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
PAINWARD - PSYCHWARD + PAIN APPENDIX (SWEATLUNG)
PSYCHWARD "Vomit Noise" reissue cd (NARCOLEPSIA + CIPHER PRODUCTIONS)
PSYCHWARD / WOODS MATTRESS "Hedonistic Outlaws of Scum" split cdr (SLAUGHTER EXHAUST)
SEXOFAGO "Torment & Ecstasy" 7'' (PURE HELLNOISE PROPAGANDA)
IZUMI KAWASAKI cd (HEAD TAPES)
LEGLESS cs (HEAD TAPES)
L.I.E. (LEGLESS + COST + NIKOS) cd (HEAD TAPES)
MAX JULIAN EASTMAN "Don't Get Around Much - Tonight Its You" reissue 2XCDR (HEAD TAPES)
VAULT DEPROGRAMMER + PUDDLE / TRASH COMPACTOR BURIAL split 7'' (R.I.P. PEACE)
V/A "From Meditation to Evisceration" vol. ii (SWEATLUNG)
- ft. VAULT DEPROGRAMMER, G.B.S., MANKIND'S DEVASTATION, FACIALMESS, CEREBRAL EROSION

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NEW RELEASES ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: ATROFIA CEREBRAL / VAULT D...

Last post by morbid_dyspepsia - Today at 07:21:42 AM

DISTRO LIST:

ATROFIA CEREBRAL / VAULT DEPROGRAMMER split cs (EMPTY CASKET AUDIO)
ANAL BUTT / VAULT DEPROGRAMMER split cs (SWEATLUNG)
THE PSYCHWARD CULT "Fuck Christmas: Hail Satanas!" reissue cdr (SWEATLUNG)
DEATH'S HEADBANGERS s/t cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
SEXOFAGO "Sexo, Drogas, Muertes" cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
VINCENT DALLAS / HAPPY cs (FUSTY CUNT TAPES)
V/A "I Am In Hell!" Volume 666 cs comp (FRENCH MARKET PRESS)
V/A "Bunyip Trax ~ Yeses & Noes" cs mixtape (BUNYIP TRAX)
CONEPUNCHER "Cig Gen" (HEAD TAPES)
OVMN / WOODS MATTRESS split cs (HEAD TAPES)

OUT SOON:
DEATH'S HEADBANGERS vol. ii cs (SOUNDS FROM THE GALLOWS)
PAINWARD - PSYCHWARD + PAIN APPENDIX (SWEATLUNG)
PSYCHWARD "Vomit Noise" reissue cd (NARCOLEPSIA + CIPHER PRODUCTIONS)
PSYCHWARD / WOODS MATTRESS "Hedonistic Outlaws of Scum" split cdr (SLAUGHTER EXHAUST)
SEXOFAGO "Torment & Ecstasy" 7'' (PURE HELLNOISE PROPAGANDA)
IZUMI KAWASAKI cd (HEAD TAPES)
LEGLESS cs (HEAD TAPES)
L.I.E. (LEGLESS + COST + NIKOS) cd (HEAD TAPES)
MAX JULIAN EASTMAN "Don't Get Around Much - Tonight Its You" reissue 2XCDR (HEAD TAPES)
VAULT DEPROGRAMMER + PUDDLE / TRASH COMPACTOR BURIAL split 7'' (R.I.P. PEACE)
V/A "From Meditation to Evisceration" vol. ii (SWEATLUNG)
- ft. VAULT DEPROGRAMMER, G.B.S., MANKIND'S DEVASTATION, FACIALMESS, CEREBRAL EROSION

sftg.bigcartel.com
analbroth666@outlook.com

GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Loneliness in noise?

Last post by Balor/SS1535 - Today at 07:12:42 AM

Maybe an initial thought in another direction is this: Many people experience noise in everyday situations as an intrusion on their isolation (which is generally associated with silence). Noise is an imposition, something unwanted, or an interruption. So I think there might be some sort of "otherness" that is present in the experience of noise, at least in its day-to-day sense (i.e. something that penetrates through loneliness, in some way?).

GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Loneliness in noise?

Last post by Balor/SS1535 - Today at 07:07:27 AM

Quote from: Minus1 on Today at 04:30:54 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on Today at 03:51:34 AMAs a roundabout way into this topic, I can say that some of the times that I feel the least lonely are when I am engaging with noise people at shows (and, to a lesser extent, through forums like this---though the lack of "face to face" really limits things with that). (For context, I deal with loneliness very frequently.)

I think I have a lot more to say on this topic, but I need some time to collect my thoughts.

May I ask out loud, as you gather thoughts, if loneliness for you is "bad"?

I knew, even as a kid, that being alone was my preferred state. Oh sure - over the decades I did all the weddings, parties, everything. But most of that time I thought "I sure would like to be alone". And now, as an old guy, I embrace that.

And right now I'm doing Deathpile - G.R. loud, for the second time in a row, and who the fuck would be ok with that in the "normal world"? 😂

I dunno. Being alone / solo / single is often frowned upon in this world. But I think a great percentage of us are happiest this way.

How does this connect with Noise? I'm not really sure. But I can blast "strange music" whenever the fuck I want without pushback / guilt. 😂

Edit: I got carried away here. Sorry. Not the original post intent. I'll (thankfully!) stfu now, and lurk.

ha Without getting too personal, I'll say that it's a struggle! So, yes, I would say that it's a bad thing overall. On the positive side, however, not being close to many people has also allowed me to be shielded from being too normal. Because of this, even just listening to noise and other weird stuff is a sort of lifeline.

Returning this more to noise, it makes me think of Merzbow---where, in many of the early discussions, noise is associated with the erotic as a sort of chaotic connective force!

GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Soundcloud, bandcamp ?

Last post by DismalChant - Today at 05:55:37 AM

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The wretched fumes of which the night is born. Glassy eyed and pliable. A dreaming sea. To be coated in nothingness. Exhaling Babel's dross. Bereft of the stars. A song that sleeps in the blood. Soporific gust of time's yawn. The smell of leaded petrol, backyard incinerators, and crackling circuitry.

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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: New interesting releases o...

Last post by DismalChant - Today at 05:53:48 AM

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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: Loneliness in noise?

Last post by Cranial Blast - Today at 05:07:44 AM

Quote from: Minus1 on Today at 04:30:54 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on Today at 03:51:34 AMAs a roundabout way into this topic, I can say that some of the times that I feel the least lonely are when I am engaging with noise people at shows (and, to a lesser extent, through forums like this---though the lack of "face to face" really limits things with that). (For context, I deal with loneliness very frequently.)

I think I have a lot more to say on this topic, but I need some time to collect my thoughts.

May I ask out loud, as you gather thoughts, if loneliness for you is "bad"?

I knew, even as a kid, that being alone was my preferred state. Oh sure - over the decades I did all the weddings, parties, everything. But most of that time I thought "I sure would like to be alone". And now, as an old guy, I embrace that.

And right now I'm doing Deathpile - G.R. loud, for the second time in a row, and who the fuck would be ok with that in the "normal world"? 😂

I dunno. Being alone / solo / single is often frowned upon in this world. But I think a great percentage of us are happiest this way.

How does this connect with Noise? I'm not really sure. But I can blast "strange music" whenever the fuck I want without pushback / guilt. 😂

Your perspective is enlightening, hopeful and reassuring in some sense. After failed relationship, other disappointments and ect. It's nice to hear you've found a sense of calming or clarity with time within your own personal space to where you can find a sense of peace so to say. I'm finding that with time, that it's becoming more "doomed" and a punishment to seek a higher meaning or purpose the further one wants to investigate any form of "truth". I don't feel any sense or calm, but rather one of a sense of quiet preparation for this enviable sense of foreboding doom. I agree in the sense that there is a sense of freedom in being alone, but with that solitary comes this weird ominous sense of guilt that makes one feel as if they can never relax. It would feel as if I was putting on the blinders to say the world we are headed in would be a place of mundane repetition of the last 2 decades, but it feels more urgent and ending at the moment. It's almost like we've reached a pinnacle of what once was will no longer be the same from here after. 2026 going forward feels like something else to me personally. I wouldn't feel so passionate about the topic of isolation if I didn't feel so personally touched by it. Things about life feel off and altered since we entered the 00 era going forward and I don't think many would disagree that it feels like time is being sped up towards oblivion like never before. Hopeless optimism be the flag we raise in opposition towards the endless void of all realities!

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