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#71
GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / DIY edits to others' albums
Last post by DBL - May 10, 2025, 07:23:48 PM
The topic title is a little vague as I didn't know how to concisely sum up what I'm asking about. Some years ago I saw a post on a heavy metal forum where someone complained about an album he thought was great, but that had some minor sound issues or mastering errors. Or, well, not really errors, but things he didn't like. His solution was to make some minor remastering to it himself, and now he listens to this new DIY version instead of the original version. Maybe I'm just missing out on it, but this was perhaps the only time I have seen someone mention they're listening to a self-improved version of an album.

I've seen posts where people have improved lousily dubbed tapes by re-dubbing the material themselves, but I don't really consider that to be the same thing. Of course it's altering the release, but in all possibility it's more about making the release what it should've already been like, instead of making it what YOU like with some disregard to the artist's or publbisher's sentiments.

Of course, youtube mashups and other plain entertainment things are a chapter of their own that I'd prefer to disregard in this context, and focus on edits you make for your own enjoyment and not public amusement. Mixtapes too, as they're more about creating a new work instead of re-working an existing one. A while ago I read about a punk guy having made a mixtape of metal songs for gig trips, but he had carefully edited out all guitar solos, heheh. Maybe that would be an example of something in between.

So: have you customized or "improved" any albums you have obtained from some artist or label, and if yes, how?

This could be extended to the physical release as an object too, although I am more interested in the sound side of things. For example if you add rpm's, A/B-side markings or artist/title texts to records or tapes if they don't have them for them to be more convenient, or is there a worry about the release becoming either less authentic, or less re-sellable with additional markings. Temporarily storing a difficultly packed release is one thing, and visibly altering or destroying the original packaging is another - or if you're making a wholly new artwork or packaging to an already existing release just for your own pleasure.
#72
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#73
Quote from: k.p.g on May 09, 2025, 08:43:12 PMWerewolf Jerusalem - God Has Shot Himself (No Holiday, reissue)
Merzbow & Total - Merzbow Mixed Total (No Holiday, reissue)

Two reissues from this label have come out, and I think it is fair to say that these are 2 fairly monolithic releases within the canon of each artist's respective discography...

Early Werewolf Jerusalem has always been my favorite project of Ramirez's and this album shows off exactly why.  It has crushing harsh tones in spades, but also has a very off-kilter sense of movement that is not often present in later works.  One minute, we could be listening to feedback roaring at the top of the mix, only to cut to what sounds like a loose cable buzz on loop.  It's fairly unpredictable and makes for quite the adventure.
As for Merzbow & Total, this finds guitar noise at its best.  Masami knows exactly how to utilize the sounds of Total guitar screech without it sounding like an elongated Swans interlude or something.  The darkness in track two was legitimately terrifying at times when driving to it at night.

Only complaint I really have with these reissues is that they are vinyl.  Call me a stick in the mud, but releases like these are better suited as CDs for different reasons.  Werewolf Jerusalem's record was originally issued as one long track.  It is a minor thing, but that clip down the middle of the original composition is a little bothersome.  As for Merzbow & Total, you have one track clocking in at 19 minutes, while another sits at a whopping 30.  Surely that means a bad cut of vinyl for that B-Side, yeah?  I appreciate the effort on No Holiday's part to make these easier to hear now though.  I would have never even know the latter existed without it.

I'll be grabbing those WJ reissues as soon as domestic connect S&W stocks them, but in the meantime while the second latest No Holidays batch sprung up at the distro I went for the Total reissue, not the Merzbow remix of Total. The elongated guitar screech of M Bower scratches a particular itch for me, and Merzbow another, so the remix project never really appealed to me. I'll probably check it out one of these days.
#74
PIERCING "Kites of Nephthys" CD
I must listen more, since felt like by the time CD was ending, it had gotten way better. First felt like it is stuff I like, but blend of electric sounds and other things could have been heavier?

LINEKRAFT "Junk Suicide Pollution" CD
Listened this few times, its basically collection of mostly live tracks over the years, but also some studio work. Hard to say should one consider this "compilation" or simply album build out of recordings that happen to be done over the years. I like the more lo-fi industrial noise vibe of this album!

MORAL ORDER "The slaughter of the innocents" CD
Could it be less musical album? I had impression as it MO albums would have more musical feel to them. Of course this is not noise or filthy racket, yet atmospheric industrial sound remains nicely abstract even with having musical qualities.

HEAT SIGNATURE "Trench trapped" CD
I like sound, aesthetics, and basically everything else, but slightly unsure if there should be more emphasis on "songs". I know it may be weird to expect songs from pure harsh noise album. While all the noise is good, it's harder to feel any particular form of tracks. More like old school noise tape filled all the way and notion of individual tracks being obsolete. I have given as example names like Umpio, Aprapat and so on, who may be pure abstract noise, yet albums often have SONGS. They start somewhere and go somewhere and there is this notion of "album". Anyways, it's very good noise CD nevertheless.

BRUME "Syncronicity & Wandering Current" CD
2024 works of Brume, I was curious about it. Brume has really good releases, but it has never been artists I particularly hunt for.  This CD, has a notch too neat contemporary efx/edit tricks, but I like it. Experimental sound with still little industrial culture vibe on it?

V.C.O.B.T. "Dogs and leopards" CD
Finn project that doesn't have huge amount of stuff out. This CD leans way more into industrial, perhaps some could even say "power electronics" side of things. It's noise by spirit, but its mostly heavily distorted electronic drone/oscillations, usage of Ukraine related news samples and so on.

BIZARRE UPROAR "teurasjäte / propaganda bizarre - Blood and shite 2006-2007" 2xCD
I was not sure do I need this, since I have the originals.. but well, when I had it in my hand, couldn't refuse. And no complaints! It is actually even better than I remembered! It's that era of "thin" and sharp BU, not yet "sludgy" BU. 2006-2008, that was really damn busy times for BU!
#75
There are also noise zines you don't hear about! I would STRONGLY recommend Portuguese zine: Katabasis. Editor, who is known for various noise/industrial projects, is not only phenomenal visual artist, but clearly looks noise from different angle than most. Artists he interviews is one indication, but questions he makes displays he has very strong interest in these artists and topic they cover.  Something like Junkyard Shaman interview, is very much thought provoking, but also the others featured in this issue.
It is curious how Junkyard Shaman explains here, but I think also elsewhere, that he never felt like belonging into Finnish noise scene (OR any scene really). But that is interesting question. What constitutes belonging to scene? I mean more contemporary description you see used, in English speaking countries, or USA in particular, seems to be "noise community". If someone would say in Finland, he feels to be part of "noise yhteisö", I am sure almost everybody feels instant rejection. What fucking "community"? No part in such, whatsoever. Scene, feels more like word that literally just means stuff what happens out there. Junkyard Shaman, no matter if he would be different sounding, different vibe, different aesthetics, was very much part of Finn noise. Releases on Freak Animal, Satatuhatta, playing live shows... it may be in same way like Ahola & Silander or something. Doing their own thing, but, it is visible force in large phenomena/landscape of Finn noise, no matter if it is intentional or not. Community generally means "a group sharing a common understanding and often the same language, manners, tradition and law". Noise, is basically diametrical opposition. You can have different understanding, different means on language/communication, different manners, different background and no rules. Still being part of the phenomena what constitutes (in this case) Finn noise. But could be applied elsewhere too.

"The first issue of Katabasis features interviews with soundscape crafstman Murmer, nomadic sound poet and writer Junkyard Shaman and the frenzied sonic assembleur Blunt Instrument (a.k.a. the illustrator André Lemos), visual narratives and illustrations by André Coelho, André Lemos, Jere Kilpinen as well as prose by Roman Beridze."
#76
GENERAL VISUAL ART / LITERATURE DISCUSSION / Re: Memes
Last post by mag-maa - May 10, 2025, 11:57:32 AM
#77
CLASSIFIED ADS / Re: FS: RXAXPXE "Death Trance"...
Last post by Manhog_84 - May 10, 2025, 11:01:36 AM
Bump, shirts added.
#78
There are a lot of such releases these days, that have not been really made for vinyl, but now insisted to be made on vinyl. I think worst that come to mind, was some Klaus Schulze vinyl. One customer who bought 2xLP, was totally annoyed when long synth/sequencer track suddenly fades out in 20 mins, and you turn side and last 5 mins of "more of the same" fades in on b-side to complete track. hah.. what the hell?!
Luckily I do not have any aversion towards CD, and I prefer CD for stuff that clearly is meant or clearly benefits for being CD.

However, been listening so much noise all the time, that feels little odd I have not written much reviews of comments about almost anything. From this week alone, I guess dozen things, mostly CD format still at work table thats been listened enough and ready to come home.

Evening listening at home this week after getting back from Genocide Organ gig..
Handful of time times listened this two song cass ep by GENOCIDE ORGAN that was for sale at the Finnish show. I like both sides, first harder hitting, quite complex song actually with several elements, b-side with bleaker old school industrial sound. Was sold as tape + patch set. Live gig was good. Started quite monotonic, synth oscillations of longer monologies as vocals, somewhere half through the set, it's OVEEERR!!! And with harder hitting song a lot of extra energy injected into set, gets louder and crowd starts moving in the pit. In no way set that would rely in power of hit songs, but far more the newer stuff which is for me also good point that band is not nostalgia, but alive and kicking! Full report at SI website. Tape itself would probably require proper review, since tracks are actually surprisingly complex and not at all leftovers.

Pain Appendix did release "tour tape" for finn/swe gigs. 50 copies exists and may be worth asking around is wanting it. That is newer material than other new tape "Mechanism for mystical messages" was on player now. Solid harsh noise release. I was under impression it was first intended to be LP, but he felt it was not good enough. I thought it could be LP, but now that listening this tape, he is right. If PA sets level to CD albums that FA and Satatuhatta put out, for LP bar is high. In a way, C-20 is one of my favorite formats, along with 3"CD. There is something... not sure if it is magical or firmly biological, but 20 minutes duration has something that is ideal for human perception. Not only my preference, but result of scientific studies.production, but good nevertheless.
Especially the tour tape is good, but for LP, I'd say something in lines of 2024 Finnish gig and that's vinyl album worthiness, hah!

Antichildleague has three new tapes out, and Gaya mentioned this "Resist or Submit" is the hardest of them all. Yep, not only it is harsh noise, but good plus somehow very "direct". Among very best ACL for being so straight forward assault, like live noise feel to it. Couple screams, crude yet also detailed noise. Two other tapes, are no less good, just less noisy! Really showing this exceptional situation how ACL belongs to projects who have been around for ages, but just get better! Retroguard -tape, Suicidal Tolerance -tape, strongly recommended!

TAHMA live tape. One of those artists self released, dubbed on recycled tape. Might be impossible to get unless you see him at the gig and he has copies. Finn new breed noise project, and self published live tape captures his vivid and spontaneous live assaults in very good way.

LUGOLA "Harmony of Despair" tape
Polish project that started as quite typical dark ambient. This is already c. 10 years old material, but I didn't have this before. Artist handed it over. I like his more recent power electronics approach. Perhaps the favorite is "You are not special" The latest one is "Rejection Fetish", 28 minute CD release on L.white. It may be sonically more advance from the debut CD, but I liked the crunchy qualities of the first one the most. Now you got more advanced synth driven electronics, heavily efx drenched vocals, including SJ type high pitched wail. I suppose for PE die hards this is recommended. Nothing new in genre. Little turn off is some of the song titles. In lines of "better cancel yourself", "you are not special".. You get impression that artists would be sporting on edgy no lives matter t-shirt, haha.. Which is not the case here, I guess. Lugola would benefit if adding more of personality to music and substance. Something that has deeper personal meaning, whatever it would be. Since every release has potential.


Been listening so much recent arrivals, that decided to pick up couple things from vinyl shelves. First Mania/Bloomer LP. One side live collab, other studio tracks. Edition of 13 copies was with unique collage cover. Quite quiet cut on this, but no problem. Just crank the volume up and sound itself is good. Feedback, metaljunk, all those things you would expect and you'll get. Of course live recording doesn't have the trademark Mania Good things in life.

Masonna / Violent Onsen Geisha split LP. I recall this is something what was reason for VOG track "Fuck off RRRecords, bye bye noise music" on Come Again II? Mr. Gerogerigegege sent tapes to RRR who assume it was authorized to release and turns out artists had no idea about any deals and not happy about the release. However, both VOG and Masonna did CD on Pure series later on and would assume it's one of those things that is it fully authorized or not, its great it exists. Masonna nowhere among his best work, but you can understand it since this is supposedly his first noise recording.  VOG might be indeed some of the best VOG that these it? Some of the noisiest, wildest and utterly strange noise. Also notable is that some of it dates back to 1986!

Probably have to continue with some CD comments when I get to work..

 
#79
GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION / Re: YLEINEN NOISE FIILISTELY S...
Last post by Commander15 - May 10, 2025, 10:45:12 AM
Uusi akustointi ja valot toimivat kyllä todella hienosti. Kuuntelin ja kattelin Gruntin ja GO:n keikan salin takaosista käsin ja ääni kuului todella kirkkaasti sinne, erittäin onnistunut muutostyö kyllä!

Kännyköiden kanssa heiluneet vieraat kyllä huvittivat, ja miedosti vituttivatkin. En vain näe mitään järjellistä pointtia siinä, että tullaan tuollaiseen tilaan, jossa on valloillaan tietty henki ja keskittynyt tunnelma, ja sitten aletaan banaalisti kuvaamaan keikkaa näyttöjen valot vilkkuen päiden päällä. Mutta kaikkea se leipä elättää, heh!
#80
Tästä muuten extra maininta! Uudet valot hyvät, plus edellisten keikkojen jälkeen uusittu akustiikka paransi sitä yleissoundia tosi mukavasti ja lisänä lauantaina videon heijastus bändin taakse lavalle oli mielestäni hyvä, vaikka joku lyhyempi perällä näki ylös kattoon paremmin, mielestäni sopii hyvin katsoa nimenomaan esiintyjää ja videota sen takana. Plus jopa salin puolen uudelleen organisointi sekin ihan selvästi mietitty juttu ramppaamisen kannalta.