NOISE RELATED RANDOM TALK TOPIC

Started by FreakAnimalFinland, August 05, 2024, 09:53:12 AM

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Kayandah

I have seen a couple of labels posting this week that they will no longer ship to Europe because of some new EU regulations

Anyone know what this is about and does it affect Europe shipping to non European destinations?

ritualabuser

Quote from: Kayandah on December 11, 2024, 12:48:49 PMI have seen a couple of labels posting this week that they will no longer ship to Europe because of some new EU regulations

Anyone know what this is about and does it affect Europe shipping to non European destinations?

I found this buried in some crap related to shipping via boat, might be the reason:

"U.S. sellers targeting EU customers must now collect VAT and register for an IOSS account to facilitate the declaration and payment of VAT."

I would assume that this wouldn't affect personal "gifts", but of you're a registered (smaller) business, I can see why you wouldn't want to bother.

FreakAnimalFinland

Those regulation have been for couple years by now.
Latest what I seen some companies panic is the regulations on product safety and ability to track manufacturers or responsible people. I know some dealers who mentioned they can no longer sell anything that doesnt have barcode. I have my doubts whether this regulation -really- effects all "consumer goods" or rather aimed for already regulated goods.

It sure is nuisance, but in general, I doubt much is changing right now. I am pretty sure still a lot of small businesses have no idea they should be already in IOSS.
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cr

Quote from: cr on December 01, 2024, 04:08:26 PMIn the last couple days I took As Loud as Possible zine out of my shelves and read through some of it again for the xth time. Needless to say here, still an amazing and great publication, and also you can explore something new every time, that you didn't care about...5,10... years ago, because you wasn't just so much interested in it back then.

So, what had my interest this time, was the label portrait of Ides Recordings and the interview with label boss Nicole Chambers. Back then and still now, I liked her own tape Reciprocity. (Don't know much about the rest, but after reading the article again, nowadays most of it could be interesting, for me)

What happened to Ides Recordings and Nicole Chambers? No more releases after 2010, so it seems it didn't last very long after the interview. No or not really useful information to be found on the internet.

Anybody here, who can shed some light into the "disappearance" of Ides Recordings and Ms. Chambers?
Thanks a lot!


Any information would be highly appreciated!
Thank you.

expectorant

Quote from: cr on December 12, 2024, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: cr on December 01, 2024, 04:08:26 PMIn the last couple days I took As Loud as Possible zine out of my shelves and read through some of it again for the xth time. Needless to say here, still an amazing and great publication, and also you can explore something new every time, that you didn't care about...5,10... years ago, because you wasn't just so much interested in it back then.

So, what had my interest this time, was the label portrait of Ides Recordings and the interview with label boss Nicole Chambers. Back then and still now, I liked her own tape Reciprocity. (Don't know much about the rest, but after reading the article again, nowadays most of it could be interesting, for me)

What happened to Ides Recordings and Nicole Chambers? No more releases after 2010, so it seems it didn't last very long after the interview. No or not really useful information to be found on the internet.

Anybody here, who can shed some light into the "disappearance" of Ides Recordings and Ms. Chambers?
Thanks a lot!


Any information would be highly appreciated!
Thank you.

She's still around, albeit in her own way. She lives in a major city and still attends a few noise shows per year. She posts her drawings at instagram.com/drawingpile. I wish she'd make/release more music, but I'd be shocked (and delighted) if that ever happened. If you enjoy Reciprocity, there's also a tape on Tone Filth that offers more of those barren tones and textures.

cr

Quote from: expectorant on December 12, 2024, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: cr on December 12, 2024, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: cr on December 01, 2024, 04:08:26 PMIn the last couple days I took As Loud as Possible zine out of my shelves and read through some of it again for the xth time. Needless to say here, still an amazing and great publication, and also you can explore something new every time, that you didn't care about...5,10... years ago, because you wasn't just so much interested in it back then.

So, what had my interest this time, was the label portrait of Ides Recordings and the interview with label boss Nicole Chambers. Back then and still now, I liked her own tape Reciprocity. (Don't know much about the rest, but after reading the article again, nowadays most of it could be interesting, for me)

What happened to Ides Recordings and Nicole Chambers? No more releases after 2010, so it seems it didn't last very long after the interview. No or not really useful information to be found on the internet.

Anybody here, who can shed some light into the "disappearance" of Ides Recordings and Ms. Chambers?
Thanks a lot!


Any information would be highly appreciated!
Thank you.

She's still around, albeit in her own way. She lives in a major city and still attends a few noise shows per year. She posts her drawings at instagram.com/drawingpile. I wish she'd make/release more music, but I'd be shocked (and delighted) if that ever happened. If you enjoy Reciprocity, there's also a tape on Tone Filth that offers more of those barren tones and textures.

Thanks a lot for the information!
Yeah, I already ordered the tape on Tone Filth via Discogs, together with the Glass Bath and the Skull Erection tape. Very much looking forward to get them.

FreakAnimalFinland

New Giftnålen hardcover version looks amazing. Not only hardcover, but also twice as big page. So A4 hardcover instead of A5 paperback. 480 pager makes it heavy and big, but nevertheless, better to read!

Also started reading Broken Flag book. Even if I have kind of read most of it, that was like 15 years ago and there is some extra stuff here compared to ALAP text.

Recent times been damn busy, with every weekend being live shows. Pretty much entire end of year, and finally last gig of year on saturday was doing Grunt instrumental noise in-store-gig. Video posted at Grunt www page or SI video topic. Got all january releases sent to pressing so now one of the main goals would be start working with SI#17 a bit harder! Looking good already, but more needs to be done.
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FiEND

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 18, 2024, 08:33:02 AMNew Giftnålen hardcover version

first i have heard of this! where to acquire?

FreakAnimalFinland

For people in USA, I don't know if there are dealers over there? Korm Plastics may be good to order directly. Finns find it from Freak Animal (nhfastore.net ) or Satatuhatta. I am actually running out of copies soon, but will restock for early January when returning from holidays...

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Earth O.D.

My weary eyes thank for the A4 format with the re-edition of Giftnålen. This is one book that lures you right in and it´s hard to stop reading and browsing! Can´t wait to immerse myself in it during the holidays.

I will leave the Broken Flag book for later cos it´s mostly familiar stuff, but it seems the main history piece itself has been expanded with additional material, which is very good - rather than slap some newer bonus article in the end.

FreakAnimalFinland

Couple decades ago, there was idea: What if I jumped into minibus, on tour with Emil Beaulieau, Prurient and Jessica Rylan, and filmed as much as possible at the technology of that time, and eventually make tour DVD compilation release? Idea was good, since it was attempt to capture the new approach of american noise that has been flourishing some years and becoming quite different from the older tape culture and isolated hermits doing their tiny releases for mail-order based culture. There was a lot to see on this tour too. Sutcliffe Jugend doing comeback. Consumer Electronics starting to play some of his solo shows between frequent Whitehouse performances. Even the possibility that you - or if not YOU - but someone like Harbinger - could actually organize 2 weeks tour for a noise artists, all around UK and make it work out. Even before social media was there. Or perhaps, because social media wasn't there!

Well, returning home with dozens of tapes with random footage scattered in them, confusing messy notes on J-cards of miniDV tapes... And meet the reality that computers of that time could basically store about 1,5h of raw footage, that would consume entire hard drive, and be painfully slow to edit. Simple rendering processes taking over night to wait and it is easy to see how patience runs out. Year pass, and while technology gets better, it also suddenly not compatible with older gear. Meanwhile, people disappeared, moved one, that entire noise culture shifted, artists developed further, and material - even if good, seemed out of place.

However, mentioning someone who posted Jessica Rylan related post on social media, that I have bunch of unseen really good footage, that I am sort of embarrassed to been stashing for 20 years just because not really been into finding out what it would need to get them transferred to current day computers. Out of realizing it is really 20 years, and that it doesn't need more than just investing into piece of gear and doing it... so all I needed was approval for artist that she is ok with publishing material now. With approval for project, I was good to start, with approval of finished edit, it's good to be published. As said, material never intended to be "comprehensive artist documentary" looking back to history, but part of the bigger documentary to capture the flourishing energetic era that was happening in front of us.
It remains to be seen, if other footage finds its purpose.


 

Jessica Rylan (Can't)
She has not been active in the scene for many years, but made long lasting impact on people who heard the releases or seen the gigs. It is safe to say, there was nothing like it before and nothing like it has not come since.
Documentary consists short glimpse to moment in time when the "new wave of American noise" was at is peak. Summer 2005 marked era when several artists had been touring intensively, countless releases emerging on countless labels. Global interests for the new American approach. No Fun Fest had just proven to capture this wild era of new types of noise activities into globally noticed festival. Prurient had made himself known all around the American noise world with intense live shows and Hospital store was about to get opened. Emil Beaulieau was at peak of his live noise, playing almost 100 shows in one year and without actual intent, his hiatus extended into retirement from noise activity already since 2006. In this era, American artists became something could be seen around Europe for the first time. Emil Beaulieau, Prurient and Jessica Rylan, all three were first time in two weeks UK tour.
This era was something formerly unseen, but also largely disappeared or changed its shape over the years. Now 20 years later, some of the material from the UK tour is made public first time. Even if artists have retired, landscape of noise has shifted greatly, it is interesting to see glimpses of history and hear the artists in moment when it was actually happening. It was originally not intended to be historical footage, but casual discussion about things going on at the tour. Brief 20 minutes piece is put together by Special Interests and consist only formerly unseen live & interview footage from 2005.
https://youtu.be/Qeu9Yeh8rrs
E-mail: fanimal +a+ cfprod,com
MAGAZINE: http://www.special-interests.net
LABEL / DISTRIBUTION: FREAK ANIMAL http://www.nhfastore.net

Balor/SS1535

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 01, 2025, 09:38:23 AMCouple decades ago, there was idea: What if I jumped into minibus, on tour with Emil Beaulieau, Prurient and Jessica Rylan, and filmed as much as possible at the technology of that time, and eventually make tour DVD compilation release? Idea was good, since it was attempt to capture the new approach of american noise that has been flourishing some years and becoming quite different from the older tape culture and isolated hermits doing their tiny releases for mail-order based culture. There was a lot to see on this tour too. Sutcliffe Jugend doing comeback. Consumer Electronics starting to play some of his solo shows between frequent Whitehouse performances. Even the possibility that you - or if not YOU - but someone like Harbinger - could actually organize 2 weeks tour for a noise artists, all around UK and make it work out. Even before social media was there. Or perhaps, because social media wasn't there!

Well, returning home with dozens of tapes with random footage scattered in them, confusing messy notes on J-cards of miniDV tapes... And meet the reality that computers of that time could basically store about 1,5h of raw footage, that would consume entire hard drive, and be painfully slow to edit. Simple rendering processes taking over night to wait and it is easy to see how patience runs out. Year pass, and while technology gets better, it also suddenly not compatible with older gear. Meanwhile, people disappeared, moved one, that entire noise culture shifted, artists developed further, and material - even if good, seemed out of place.

However, mentioning someone who posted Jessica Rylan related post on social media, that I have bunch of unseen really good footage, that I am sort of embarrassed to been stashing for 20 years just because not really been into finding out what it would need to get them transferred to current day computers. Out of realizing it is really 20 years, and that it doesn't need more than just investing into piece of gear and doing it... so all I needed was approval for artist that she is ok with publishing material now. With approval for project, I was good to start, with approval of finished edit, it's good to be published. As said, material never intended to be "comprehensive artist documentary" looking back to history, but part of the bigger documentary to capture the flourishing energetic era that was happening in front of us.
It remains to be seen, if other footage finds its purpose.


 

Jessica Rylan (Can't)
She has not been active in the scene for many years, but made long lasting impact on people who heard the releases or seen the gigs. It is safe to say, there was nothing like it before and nothing like it has not come since.
Documentary consists short glimpse to moment in time when the "new wave of American noise" was at is peak. Summer 2005 marked era when several artists had been touring intensively, countless releases emerging on countless labels. Global interests for the new American approach. No Fun Fest had just proven to capture this wild era of new types of noise activities into globally noticed festival. Prurient had made himself known all around the American noise world with intense live shows and Hospital store was about to get opened. Emil Beaulieau was at peak of his live noise, playing almost 100 shows in one year and without actual intent, his hiatus extended into retirement from noise activity already since 2006. In this era, American artists became something could be seen around Europe for the first time. Emil Beaulieau, Prurient and Jessica Rylan, all three were first time in two weeks UK tour.
This era was something formerly unseen, but also largely disappeared or changed its shape over the years. Now 20 years later, some of the material from the UK tour is made public first time. Even if artists have retired, landscape of noise has shifted greatly, it is interesting to see glimpses of history and hear the artists in moment when it was actually happening. It was originally not intended to be historical footage, but casual discussion about things going on at the tour. Brief 20 minutes piece is put together by Special Interests and consist only formerly unseen live & interview footage from 2005.
https://youtu.be/Qeu9Yeh8rrs

A new SI documentary is a great start to the new year!

Skuggsidan

While cleaning my office today, I came across the postcard from the Kakerlak cassette on Self Abuse that I sold at a gig in Sweden a few years ago, maybe 2022,(without the postcard). It felt like digging up a small, forgotten piece of the past.

On a whim, I tracked down the person who bought the cassette back in 2022. To tie up this random loose end, I decided to send the postcard to the buyer—for free.
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Reissues:
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HateSermon

For those not on IG - Cloister just posted a bunch of new + used stuff on discogs:

https://www.discogs.com/seller/CloisterRecordings/profile

Minus1

(Please let me know if I am doing this Noise Related Random Talk Topic thing wrong.) 

I'm not seeing a dedicated Boredoms thread. And being rather new here, I wonder if Boredoms qualify for this forum, although I see passing mentions of them in various threads.

I am currently blasting the Shimmy CD release of Boredoms - Soul Discharge, and they decided to make that 28min album into one track. But wait! There's more! This CD edition adds Early Boredoms as a...ahem...41min bonus track!

I'm not a Boredoms expert/completist, but this disc is fucking epic. If there's a better Boredoms document out there, then please let me know.

There's Noise / Punk / Cut-Up / Rock / Surf! elements here, all dementedly mixed up into a stunning smorgasbord.

This is a fantastic collection.
Give Me CDs Or Give Me Death.