Noise For Beginners

Started by groesk, January 07, 2025, 04:20:54 AM

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Quote from: groesk on January 07, 2025, 04:20:54 AMAs for someone who typically listens to harsh noise, I've been showing my friend the genre and he seems interested.
While You Were Out by Kazumoto Endo is a pretty good pick for beginners, but I've also heard 3: William Bennett Has No Dick from Hanatarash is also varied enough to fit the bill.

Also for some reason there's people that reccomened Pulse Demon and Verenology from Merzbow, like dude that's way, way too much. My first harsh noise album was Noisembryo from the same artist and I put down the genre for a while afterwards, although I was still interested.

I'm not too well verse in the other noise genres, (aside from noise rock) so i'll be interested to see what comes up.

Ha! My first Noise experience was also Merzbow - Noisembryo, about 25 years ago.

I dove right into the deep-end. But I think "short and varied" might be the way to introduce newbies.

Therefore, Whitehouse might fit the bill perfectly?

(Do not....and I mean DO NOT start with Vomir!)

Edit: Ooops. Hybrid Noisebloom was my first. I'm getting Merzbow albums mixed up. Sorry.
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Cranial Blast

Quote from: piisti on January 07, 2025, 07:21:43 AMIt depends what kind of people you are poisoning. In my case there have to be some familiar. My path was fanatic Ride for Revenge fan boy pretty natural after I heard Undor/RFR split.

I share similar pathways, being from a more metal first enthusiast. RFR is an absolute essential gateway type of band to get one more into PE/noise and other experimental elements. I'd also say the Grey Wolves would be another good one, for one to start with. I remember hearing them way back in the day and thinking this is kind of cool, very industrial with a punk attitude about it!
Ride For Revenge has always done an excellent job and a quality job of bringing out that appeal and crossover to audiences looking for something "different" and quite frankly I don't think that band gets near enough praise, that it so rightfully deserves.

Marko-V

Quote from: Cranial Blast on February 01, 2025, 05:16:16 AMGrey Wolves would be another good one, for one to start with. I remember hearing them way back in the day and thinking this is kind of cool

Never heard anyone descriping GW as 'cool' - but yeah I think I understand what you mean.

My advice is not going through easy way. Just throw him/her straight to the deep end (Black Leather Jesus, Hijokaidan, BU, 90's Merzbow ...yes, even Vomir). If s/he can tolerate them, s/he can tolerate pretty much any noise.

Cranial Blast

Quote from: Marko-V on February 07, 2025, 01:54:47 PM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on February 01, 2025, 05:16:16 AMGrey Wolves would be another good one, for one to start with. I remember hearing them way back in the day and thinking this is kind of cool

Never heard anyone descriping GW as 'cool' - but yeah I think I understand what you mean.

My advice is not going through easy way. Just throw him/her straight to the deep end (Black Leather Jesus, Hijokaidan, BU, 90's Merzbow ...yes, even Vomir). If s/he can tolerate them, s/he can tolerate pretty much any noise.

My 17 year old self thought back then "cool", as it was something different to me then and Grey Wolves approach is very snotty and punk like, at least to me.

You're advice to the newcomer is good, if they can withstand Vomir, everything else will be tolerated indeed, haha.

Kaaoskultti

Quote from: Cranial Blast on February 07, 2025, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: Marko-V on February 07, 2025, 01:54:47 PM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on February 01, 2025, 05:16:16 AMGrey Wolves would be another good one, for one to start with. I remember hearing them way back in the day and thinking this is kind of cool

Never heard anyone descriping GW as 'cool' - but yeah I think I understand what you mean.

My advice is not going through easy way. Just throw him/her straight to the deep end (Black Leather Jesus, Hijokaidan, BU, 90's Merzbow ...yes, even Vomir). If s/he can tolerate them, s/he can tolerate pretty much any noise.

My 17 year old self thought back then "cool", as it was something different to me then and Grey Wolves approach is very snotty and punk like, at least to me.

You're advice to the newcomer is good, if they can withstand Vomir, everything else will be tolerated indeed, haha.

Indeed. But I surely regret not discovering more of the straightforward kind of PE which is the landmark of its style, being a teenager. Back then, I didn't listen to it as much as beyond Whitehouse, SJ, and Prurient. God, had I discovered "Acts of Faith" mini-cd back then it would be an absolute catharsis for me. That is indeed thanks to my lack of interest/will to explore the genre's darkest sides, which managed to keep me far from it for some years before I started listening to Noise everyday.

That being said, I can understand the approach of listening to the extremes so one gets acclimatized to it, so to speak. Still, I believe the Canon of classics has a lot to be explored for newcomers and long-time scenesters alike, as it is the goldmine of the genre.

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moozz

Quote from: Marko-V on February 07, 2025, 01:54:47 PM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on February 01, 2025, 05:16:16 AMGrey Wolves would be another good one, for one to start with. I remember hearing them way back in the day and thinking this is kind of cool

Never heard anyone descriping GW as 'cool' - but yeah I think I understand what you mean.

My advice is not going through easy way. Just throw him/her straight to the deep end (Black Leather Jesus, Hijokaidan, BU, 90's Merzbow ...yes, even Vomir). If s/he can tolerate them, s/he can tolerate pretty much any noise.

No need to scare them away immediately. Assuming someone has no (or not much) experience with more experimental music I think it would make sense to introduce them to something they could grasp at some level. Like Prurient's Bermuda Drain. Or Winterkälte. If they can appreciate some of that, great. And then "everything else" as there is a lot of variety. Going all "this is Vomir, if you can't take a 6-hour set of this you can just get the fuck out of here" could be counterproductive :)

Cementimental

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Quote from: Cementimental on February 08, 2025, 11:10:28 PMJust show them Masonna live videos

Probably the most balanced introduction all around, I would think.  Classic band from a classic scene, but short enough to not be too overwhelming---plus the addition of live videos just being fun!

Marcellehanged

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Quote from: Cementimental on February 08, 2025, 11:10:28 PMJust show them Masonna live videos

I agree, mandatory viewing.

Attendance at a live noise show is a magnificent baptism if the opportunity presents itself.

wilst-de

Whitehouse, (early) Le Syndicat and Entre Vifs are nice to start with.