Also from what I heard I was somewhat let down by that new Belketre and opted not to buy it, I see it's going for $100 on discogs now that Vordb has kind of gone back into seculsion and probbaly won't press it again. The programmed drums on the samples I heard really where a let down for me as the Belketre drumming on the old recordings was absolutely perfect. Some day I'll give that album another chance, if I can find it.