Vocal Noise

[Zeno Marx]

I forgot about this one.  It's very good.  Not noise.   The Hafler Trio - Normally 2003.  Explanation at the bottom of the Discogs page.

https://www.discogs.com/The-Hafler-Trio-Normally/release/246804

[Japsi]

Henri Chopin

Ah, this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg3NrR7_jYk

I am quite sure I saw him sleeping on a pavement once.

Just kidding, this was pretty awesome and his look does nothing but improve the experience.

This guy was incredible, and his humour shines through in every performance. I love his gestures and expressions in this clip.

[Duncan]

Remembered this almost as soon as I posted my last response:

https://www.discogs.com/TMikawa-Rising-Sunset/release/11307720

Absurdly for a £5 cdr which only came out 3 years ago, it seems to go for an absurd price on discogs. Maybe this is easy to find a download of somewhere though.  If you imagine a normal Incapacitants/Mikawa solo set but with a totally dry mic recording his mouth babbles really clearly and the electronics turned down low this is what you get. It's a good one.

[Potier]

Definitely need to check out that Hafler Trio release - Mr. Bargeld is an old favorite. Thanks for that.

Yesterday I spent some time with this one:

https://www.discogs.com/Makigami-Koichi-Koedarake/release/1196058

Interesting very diverse and playful vocal explorations. Maybe a little too much on the fun/gimmicky side with the cartoon voices type stuff. Loved the throat singing stuff.
There is another pure vocal release of his on Tzadik as far as I can tell. Will check it out as well.

Maybe it's time to re-visit Phurpa - sort of ritualistic vocal noise - but then the question is whether it should be enjoyed as noise or more as folk.

[Duncan]

Yesterday I spent some time with this one:

https://www.discogs.com/Makigami-Koichi-Koedarake/release/1196058

Makigami is great. Saw him live once, so great. And yes, as you say - very playful and fun.  Have you listened to much Jaap Blonk? I believe he has a lot of work on a bandcamp.

Maybe it's time to re-visit Phurpa - sort of ritualistic vocal noise - but then the question is whether it should be enjoyed as noise or more as folk.

I could be wrong but I believe they view what they do very much as an attempt at some quite specific, authentic Bön traditions. How you enjoy it is ultimately down to you - on one level it's just intense sound after all - but there are conversations to be had about how folk/authentic it can really be given they're Moscow based guys doing Himalayan music or how Noise it can really be given that this association seems only to exist in the company they keep.  I don't know what the answers are but I did also catch them live once and it was quite enjoyable if not a bit boring after 30 mins.

[impulse manslaughter]

Some Rudolf Eb.er stuff fits the discription I guess. Henri Chopin. JGJGJGJG and the Balsam Flex label. William Levy LP on Slowscan. Ferdinand Kriwet. Jackson Mac Low. François Dufrêne LP on Recital. Ian William Craig (esp. the recent Red Sun Through Smoke LP); a trained opera singer mixing lo-fi electronics with vocals. Nikolaus Urban (great 7" on De Appel), Ghédalia Tazartès, Arrigo Lora-Totino (esp the 7" on Holidays), Anton Bruhin - InOut cd. Most of these are not really noisy though, more sound-art orientated.

[impulse manslaughter]

Do you know the sound poems of Henri Chopin and Bob Cobbing?
How about free improv vocal improvisers such as Phil Minton?  Does that fit the category?

The name Henri Chopin is familiar but I can't say I have heard anything. Cobbing is an unknown for me all around. Any good starting points for both?
Noticed there seems to be a few Cobbing-compilations...any pointers for both much appreciated.

I love this LP and it's also affordable; https://www.discogs.com/Henri-Chopin-OH-Audiopoems-By-Henri-Chopin/release/10435789

I'm not a big Bob Cobbing fan, gets annoying after a while. He does appear on this Peter Finch LP though that I like a lot; https://www.discogs.com/Peter-Finch-Dances-Interdites/release/10324893

[Japsi]

On the avant-garde/sound poetry trip, I'm very fond of Demetrio Stratos but it's a real shame that he died before he could fully unlock his potential.

100% agreed, Stratos did some really incredible work with taking a voice into new territory. I've only ever heard his stuff online, but he's been a huge inspiration for me vocally in terms of more avant-garde work. Some seem to think that his use of certain techniques may have contributed to his death, so I've always been interested in studying him further. Certain yogic techniques can allow one to get into the autonomic nervous system, with potentially fatal consequences, so I'm at least vaguely open to the possibility that voice could be 'directed' similarly.

[Potier]

Some Rudolf Eb.er stuff fits the discription I guess. Henri Chopin. JGJGJGJG and the Balsam Flex label. William Levy LP on Slowscan. Ferdinand Kriwet. Jackson Mac Low. François Dufrêne LP on Recital. Ian William Craig (esp. the recent Red Sun Through Smoke LP); a trained opera singer mixing lo-fi electronics with vocals. Nikolaus Urban (great 7" on De Appel), Ghédalia Tazartès, Arrigo Lora-Totino (esp the 7" on Holidays), Anton Bruhin - InOut cd. Most of these are not really noisy though, more sound-art orientated.

Checked out a download of the François Dufrêne LP on Recital last night - this is exactly the kind of stuff I am looking for. Seems this was re-released after originally appearing on cassette or reel to reel - files I found sounded kinda rough - can anyone comment on the actual LP and what it sounds like?

The A-Side of the Nikolaus Urban 7" can be heard on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAU5cDN9vT0 - definitely great stuff.

Thanks a lot for the recommendations, I will be doing more digging.

[muppet1]

Also highly recommend the Dufrêne - Oeuvre Désintégrale set on Alga Marghen.

[impulse manslaughter]

Checked out a download of the François Dufrêne LP on Recital last night - this is exactly the kind of stuff I am looking for. Seems this was re-released after originally appearing on cassette or reel to reel - files I found sounded kinda rough - can anyone comment on the actual LP and what it sounds like?

I have the LP but can't compare to the original tape which is impossible to find these days. The LP has a nice insert with liner notes and sounds good to my ears..

[Zeno Marx]

I was reminded of this album today.  I find it annoying, but some consider it a classic in voice tomfoolery.

https://feedingtuberecords.bandcamp.com/album/flee-pasts-ape-elf

[impulse manslaughter]

Played Asmus Tietchens - Von Mund To Mund 7"s series today. Comes recommended if you're into mouth works & voice.

[absurdexposition]

https://www.discogs.com/Eric-Boros-Dave-Phillips-Split/release/1011852

Eric Boros / Dave Phillips live split.

EB laughing in stereo. DP gasping for air (and eventually just yelling like crazy) while running samples of pigs squealing at varying pitches over a repeating pulse beat before blasting off at the end.

[impulse manslaughter]

bpNichol LP from 68 is great. A re-issue is much needed though as copies are selling for 1500 euros now..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa2OEG9deSI&feature=emb_logo