Noise And Beauty

Started by Andrew McIntosh, March 07, 2011, 04:02:15 AM

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Arvo

Every person who releases something has their own idea of beauty in mind.  Even if they are trying to pull a fast one on their listeners, they still think, deep inside, that there is a beauty in it.  Marcel Duchamp signed a urinal and thought there was a beauty in it, even if it was in the fact that he got away with it.  I'm sure that jliat thought his book of a "wav form" with nothing but 000010000010100101010010  was beauty.   Even people who are against romantics are trying to do what they think is beautiful. 

Many people will argue that there is a "golden mean" to beauty.  Many more people try to disregard the idea of the "eye of the beholder".   

For me it is when someone creates a world that I want to visit,  or it is so fully realized that I feel like I'm already there, or when someone changes my perception, or when it speaks to my soul.   

I think that this can happen with lazy, stupid, crude, brutish, overly analytical, sexually depraved, crazy, insensitive and deplorable people just as much if not more than the synthesizer sunrise assholes.   

Strömkarlen

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 09, 2011, 04:42:27 PM

Quote from: Strömkarlen on March 09, 2011, 11:35:34 AM
I find it amusing that noise as beautiful stirs a discussion but noise as blood dripping, depressing or any other pet obsession doesn't. I have much easier time seeing the beauty in noise than I can see the blood dripping.

I think it's almost opposite? You throw some topics with politics and sexual extremes, and we see topics about that constantly in noise boards. If we'd open topic "noise and nazism", I don't even want to know what would happen! HAH! "noise and molesting people"? I guess one can find topic of various shades of stupidity all over the place.  About noise and beauty, 2 pages not enough to compete yet.

Isn't the nazism and molesting that get's the action not noise?

FreakAnimalFinland

Isn't it the same? Beauty, being on side connected to noise. And beauty is what gets attention?
I would guess it's the same like this. Mix of discussing what is what, and why it's connected/related to noise?

Noise and commercialism?
Noise and social networking?
noise and ...
we could invent any topic, and the latter word defines the nature of discussion, not perhaps the purely the "noise".

I think Antti O did refer something to question what exactly IS noise. And if it being pleasure to your senses, ceases to be noise. I recall Soddy mentioning his noise vision of being the quality to DAMAGE.
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Cementimental

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"Beauty is like a train that ceaselessly roars out of the Gare de Lyon and which I know will never leave, which has not left. It consists of jolts and shocks, many of which do not have much importance, but which we know are destined to produce one Shock, which does...The human heart, beautiful as a seismograph...Beauty will be CONVULSIVE or will not be at all."
— André Breton

also

"Let us not mince words: the marvelous is always beautiful, anything marvelous is beautiful, in fact only the marvelous is beautiful."

(I always remembered that one as "the unusual" but "the marvelous" seems to be the most common translation...)

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