WHITE CENTIPEDE NOISE PODCAST

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FreakAnimalFinland

I guess I mentioned in occasionally, but dynamics of generational difference seems quite interesting. Typically appears in ways of "young people do not like..." or "people these days do not like..." and then you insert some supposedly outrageous or old fashioned thing there. But is it really?
At least in Finland, there has been repeated pattern, where "reaction of youth" or "reaction of general population" is way more about reaction of boomers / media. In a way that one or couple persons posts criticism in social media, and that is used as foundation for media coverage AND discussion where it ceases to be related to anything else than media knowing that this is the hot shit and every boomer will click news piece where core of story is "Look at this insanity! Kids encourage censorship!" or such. While nobody usually talks to those kids or have any idea how many people think like that and how relevant it is. It is just approached from purely exploitative angle where one can use it almost as strawman for other things. But curiously as result may be, that one gets this idea planted in your head, that to make sure you get along with spirit of our times, you need to stay in line while this line was sort of self-created.

Very similarly we had nicely revealing incident where one female singer/songwriter got really high profile exposure in biggest press available in Finland. It caused huge backlash among people as story was revolving again on topic of "artists being entitled for state funding & free money". Especially US citizen might wonder what the fuck, but over here in welfare state socialism people often have idea they would be entitled for state paying their living. That is not interesting thing in story, but that artists had talked couple hours about her art and new album, and just mentioned briefly worries about art-funding budgets being cut. Journalist knowing that "artists crying about struggles of economy" is what brings "discussion", that's what story basically was. All the real substance was ignored, and newspaper focused on this little side-note.
Just about every redneck loses their shit, politicians and newspapers talking about it. Journalists, and audience itself is addicted to drama and scandals.  In slighly related way, it is very dull if only ways of discussing somewhat obscene art, is not really of art itself, but semi-fictional conflict story.  Everybody knows that merely mentioning "our release got taken down", "our gig was cancelled" will get more people to react, than best album you ever made.... hah..  THAT, is quite offensive actually, when thinking of nature of art.
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WCN

OUT NOW on WCN TV - Noise Vinyl Reviews

I've had some LPs piling up here over the past couple years that I hadn't had a chance to listen to, and I finally got to spend some quality time with them this week with an open and analytical ear, so I'm sharing my thoughts in this week's episode on some great recent vinyl. Long live the noise LP!

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Harsh Noise label and EU based distro of American Imports
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WCN

OUT NOW - Eric Stonefelt of HUM OF THE DRUID on WCN Podcast

HUM OF THE DRUID is a project that has carved out its own gnarled niche in the industrial noise landscape, with its dense, cracking compositions that blur the lines between acoustic and electric sounds, and emit a distinct atmosphere of personal esotericism. Eric Stonefelt, the man behind the project, is a visual artist as well, responsible for the surreal textual illustrations adorning all HUM OF THE DRUID releases, and is a member of several obscure black metal projects. Something of a recluse when it comes to "scene" involvement, Eric was kind enough to join me for an in depth conversation about his work, philosophies, and more.

Public Version: https://youtu.be/7gVorJNcERI
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RURAL RESISTANCE

This reminded me that I have to get my hands on more Hum of the Druid releases.

FreakAnimalFinland

Great project and public part of interview feels like ending so soon, despite it is 40 mins, proper length. 
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theotherjohn

Man, that full interview is really tempting me to finally join the WCN Patreon. HotD is an excellent music project, but Eric's more "reclusive" artistic expressions (not just his visual output, but his prolific music podcast/audio diaries and revelatory research into mafia history) are even more fascinating to me ever since he shared a link to his website through here some years back which sent me down the rabbit hole.

Bigsby

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I really appreciate his idea that black metal can be built around a no-exit, hell is other people worldview, not a simple sophomoric "dark" misanthropy but something of more substance.

His thoughts on "scenes" is refreshing and he points out that maybe no other niche has "more artist in the audience than not." ("Zeno Marx is like Ghandi for not making noise. Ghandi slept next to little girls!" hahahaha 👑.) This  moves on to a  discussion of "artists's needing to challenge one another more." the project itself is a great model for a really authentic way to operate; "no hype it is what it is."

Great interview Oskar. Recommend the Patreon. They touch very very briefly on what could be an interesting topic: whether or not noise is tired of "extreme"  noise, notably in themes.  The suggestion being -to me-  that F&V, at the forefront of "post-extreme," have taken it as far as possible, and done so w/out compromise, so maybe time for all aspiring extremists to  "terminate mission."

LIFE

Thanks a ton.

And just to be clear haha, what I said was that guys who are simply diehard fans of noise but not artists remind me of how Ghandi used to sleep in the same bed as girls but as an act of restraint never gave into the temptation to "get down" with them. Guys who are fans only are the true saints and celebrities of noise.

Bigsby

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Quote from: LIFE on May 14, 2024, 03:03:39 AMThanks a ton.

And just to be clear haha, what I said was that guys who are simply diehard fans of noise but not artists remind me of how Ghandi used to sleep in the same bed as girls but as an act of restraint never gave into the temptation to "get down" with them. Guys who are fans only are the true saints and celebrities of noise.

Yes! Didn't mean to misrepresent you hahah It's actually insanely insightful! Who the hell loves noise and doesn't make noise! It's heroic. 

LIFE

Yeah I just didn't want anyone to get the impression I said listener-only noise fans are into little girls hahaha.

Thanks again, man.

Atrophist

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quote author=Bigsby link=msg=106294 date=1715638051]] They touch very very briefly on what could be an interesting topic: whether or not noise is tired of "extreme"  noise, notably in themes.  The suggestion b -to me-  that F&V, at the forefront of "post-extreme," have taken it as far as possible, and done so w/out compromise, so maybe time for all aspiring extremists to  "terminate mission."

I havent actually listened to this yet, so I may be talking out of ass here, but.

Besides asking yourself if it's possible to "out-F&V F&V" or to be more extreme than the current most extreme thing going —- is it even worth doing, even if you can?

I can only speak for myself, ofc, but I would guess that for most F&V etc artists, the main struggle involves overcoming their own inner restraints and inhibitions, rather than outdoing someone else.

Each to their own, of course, but to me extremism for its own sake usually ends up being contrived, almost trivial. Especially in such a highly individual and personal milieu as noise. 

Bigsby

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Def agree with your last point. Idk if some artists are "overcoming their own inner restraints or inhibitions." I think instead those private obstacles don't even exist for some of them,which is why it's so raw and unapologetic .  Otherwise it's just someone who somehow thinks that their personal identity is special or different or precious or unique and I think would come off pretty juvenile and insincere.  Like Therapy Electronics, look at all my dark dark thoughts look at me look at me.

Theodore

I never thought my laziness, total lack of talent and zero urge for creativity would be seen as heroic. Sometimes i have an itch, but my personal characteristics aside i fight it with rational arguements too. Do i want really to spend my time and my money to try to 'learn' something that others have 'mastered' and offer it all ready to me ? Of that time and money i ll spend on my thing, what i ll loose in exchange ? - Why learn to cook, and eat a lot of your own shit in the process hoping somewhen you ll make a good meal, when you can eat delicacies from the best chefs ?

Dont know, maybe if i had met noise when i was 15-20 YO i would think different then. Or maybe i am not grandpa enough yet for it, haha.

I have a relevant question : Does anyone started making noise and quited soon after, not cause of lack of interest but cause of much love ? You know, 'I suck, i am loosing my time on bad noise' .
"ἀθάνατοι θνητοί, θνητοὶ ἀθάνατοι, ζῶντες τὸν ἐκείνων θάνατον, τὸν δὲ ἐκείνων βίον τεθνεῶτες"

moozz

Quote from: Theodore on May 15, 2024, 03:28:52 PMI have a relevant question : Does anyone started making noise and quited soon after, not cause of lack of interest but cause of much love ? You know, 'I suck, i am loosing my time on bad noise' .

Yes, kind of. Initially my interest in recording noise faded out when I could not produce the sounds I wanted. Not that I wanted something extremely complex, I was just not happy with the results. I never asked for advice or experimented very boldly. Maybe I should have.

FreakAnimalFinland

I do not think most people who are doing so called extreme things, really think that they are doing "extreme things". Nor that they would need to out-do someone else, but more likely it is that they are doing something that satisfies some of their urge. And there is very very very small "audience" for that, and artists probably barely thinks about them.
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