WHITE CENTIPEDE NOISE PODCAST

Started by WCN, October 18, 2021, 11:45:20 PM

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FreakAnimalFinland

Had not heard about it before. OK episode. Talk about how "art world / people" feel about noise is curious. Like the dismissive attitude of people Oskar mentions in question. I suppose question is valid since Richie Culver is also working in the art world, but in general always when I come across discussion about how art world sees noise (or underground culture in general), it feels like undercurrent of discussion is almost without exception some sort of need of validification?

That, seems so artist mentality, hah. That need of being accepted by artworld to be somehow as good as they are, somehow gallery or museum worthy. While, in reality, it is obvious it should be seen the other way round. Most of works on display wouldn't make it to noise album cover and experimental sound you tend to hear in museums and galleries wouldn't pass the criteria of labels who spend their own money and are in intent to sell the LP/CD to someone. I can see why someone would want to take part of something where things like funding is available, but validification from art world seems utterly unnecessary.
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Theodore

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 26, 2025, 12:24:54 PMbut validification from art world seems utterly unnecessary.

Imagine a future where our descendants will selling our collections at Sotheby's.
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junkyardshaman

It was interesting episode. My personal experience in the art world (albeit being probably more limited and happening in Japan, where many of the people I have been talking to are of the same generation and maybe to some extent also familiar with works of for example Merzbow and Haino Keiji) towards noise/industrial has been mostly of excitement or interest instead of looking down on it. But that along many other things might be different in Europe.