Quote from: Theodore on December 23, 2021, 08:58:05 PM
I ll answer to you seriously without being ironic. Please tell me which was the tape you paid 300EUR for it or which CDR 60EUR. If there isnt any, please let me know for which you would be willing to pay such amounts. Maybe you are lucky, someone reads it, and you buy them finally.
I spoke for two reasons : 1. I see such prices as an insult. You clearly looking for either stupids, or desperate people to exploit them. I dont say rich, cause even a rich has to be either stupid or desperate to pay 300EUR for a tape. - You are not the only one doing that. Just now i had the chance, couldnt hold myself to ignore it, and i spoke.
2. Such tactics have made the aftermarket a shit-place. I dont ask anyone to sell at low prices. To be a stupid 'idealist' at his own loss. You understand that your prices are not even in the very high range of the marketplace's ever increasing standards ? Are insane. And such tactics open the road for others to follow them. So when i decide to sell any rare tapes i may have, do i have to set such insane prices ? So i can pay your insane prices ...
It's a chain, somewhat ... The price one sells or buys, it affects us all.
Your point is ridiculous and you consider it an "insult" only because we are talking about Wertham that probably in your opinion doesn't deserve to be payed 300€. In my opinion, he deserves it and considering that I am the one that own one of the 44 copies, I sell it at 300€.
I'm sure that if we were talking about some other underground artists that are well known for the high price of their earliest releases, you would not open a post against it.
I personally consider that 44 copies of the first release of one of the post popular power electronics artist in Italy, is quite impossible to find.
I bought this tape in Japan and was extremely difficult to find it.
I never saw any other copies on sale on discogs or anywhere in the world.
So, YES, is value is high.
As is high the value for an early tape by Hanatarash, an early demo tape by Novy Svet (that I'm searching since ages!), Hinrichtung or Native Concrete Industrial by Genocide Organ, Murder Corporation early tapes (I sold one for over 200€ years ago!) and many others...
It is not a scam, again, is just giving a value to something that is important for you.
If I will ever find an early tape of Maria Zerfall, I would be thinking to buy it, even if the cost would be proibitive.
I'm searching for Trance Flexure by Sigillum S on Broken Flag since 20 years, never find it. I'm ready to pay for it, when it will show up.
Leichenlinie first press costs 750€, too much? probably, but is the greatest power electronics album ever. Does it deserve this cost? Your choise.
Someone will buy a repress, someone will buy a standard cd edition, someone will download an mp3. But someone, will pay 750€ to own the original fist press. And is ok, because passions have a cost.
Maybe someone will decide that 300€ is a correct price for a so limited and rare tape by Wertham, and will buy it. Or maybe not, but in my opinion is value is 300€.
To buy records, expensive records, I did a lot of sacrifices in my life, even before internet time, when there wasn't any history of value of a specific record, and I don't accept that someone now is going to teach me at what price do I have to sell a record just because he can't afford it.
I never considered stupid someone that is in the will to pay high costs for a release, if is important for him, as I did in the past and as I will continue to do in the future.
And is not a question about how rich someone can be, but about how important is for you.
I preferred to not have a car, a big TV set, expensive clothes & shoes, to avoid holidays, to buy cheap food, to have a smallest house and go on... but to by a rare record.
Choises. Not stupid or not stupid people. Choises.
If someone want to sell his record collection at bargain prices is free to do it, I will not.
And again, I have no rush in selling, but if I do, I want to do it at my conditions.