CD-Rs That Have R.I.P.

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BatteredStatesofEuphoria

Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 13, 2024, 08:39:16 PMThankfully, when mine work, the whole thing seems to play fine.  It seems strange that only some tracks would work, barring scratches on the discs themselves.

I've actually never had problems for the most part with CDRs that just glitch here and there. When they do start to glitch, its usually towards the end of the disc, typically the last 10 minutes or so. Which I tend to feel may be more of a longevity issue than the burning issues Zeno mentioned.

And pretty much none of the problematic ones had any obvious physical blemishes. It really does seem like for older CDRs from the 90s/early 00s, it was the brand used more than anything.

Cranial Blast

Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on October 14, 2024, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 13, 2024, 08:39:16 PMThankfully, when mine work, the whole thing seems to play fine.  It seems strange that only some tracks would work, barring scratches on the discs themselves.

I've actually never had problems for the most part with CDRs that just glitch here and there. When they do start to glitch, its usually towards the end of the disc, typically the last 10 minutes or so. Which I tend to feel may be more of a longevity issue than the burning issues Zeno mentioned.

And pretty much none of the problematic ones had any obvious physical blemishes. It really does seem like for older CDRs from the 90s/early 00s, it was the brand used more than anything.

I think you're right. The brand really does seem to matter a lot. I think the Memorex brand are absolute junk right out the package. I pitched a whole 50 stack in the trash where they belong. It was a real struggle for my burner to even recognize the discs. That brand seems to be shit, but I've had good luck with the Verbatim brand. That's got a be a lot of the story with those early CDrs from the late 90s. It's like they were in a proto type phase and needed the time to tell.

Hakaristi

Recently decided to finally stop buying CDrs altogether as there's a high chance they'll have trouble playing. Usually it's some sort of freeze/stutter/glitch a few tracks into the disc. Last few I bought were Prose Nagge releases which was a real bummer as there's some killer noise on them. Doesn't seem to matter if they're "pro" duplicated or not either. Strangely had a similar experience with the Americanoise 2xCD reissue as well, initial copy and replacement from the label both had the same issue. Obviously my player doesn't want me to hear this classic comp!

Balor/SS1535

Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on October 14, 2024, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 13, 2024, 08:39:16 PMThankfully, when mine work, the whole thing seems to play fine.  It seems strange that only some tracks would work, barring scratches on the discs themselves.

I've actually never had problems for the most part with CDRs that just glitch here and there. When they do start to glitch, its usually towards the end of the disc, typically the last 10 minutes or so. Which I tend to feel may be more of a longevity issue than the burning issues Zeno mentioned.

And pretty much none of the problematic ones had any obvious physical blemishes. It really does seem like for older CDRs from the 90s/early 00s, it was the brand used more than anything.

Ok, I think I'm just going to have to investigate the brand I have been using.  I have been fairly lucky with CDrs so far (with the exception of one I burned out as a kid many years ago), but I want to avoid sending discs to people that might have such issues.

Cranial Blast

#19
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 14, 2024, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on October 14, 2024, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 13, 2024, 08:39:16 PMThankfully, when mine work, the whole thing seems to play fine.  It seems strange that only some tracks would work, barring scratches on the discs themselves.

I've actually never had problems for the most part with CDRs that just glitch here and there. When they do start to glitch, its usually towards the end of the disc, typically the last 10 minutes or so. Which I tend to feel may be more of a longevity issue than the burning issues Zeno mentioned.

And pretty much none of the problematic ones had any obvious physical blemishes. It really does seem like for older CDRs from the 90s/early 00s, it was the brand used more than anything.

Ok, I think I'm just going to have to investigate the brand I have been using.  I have been fairly lucky with CDrs so far (with the exception of one I burned out as a kid many years ago), but I want to avoid sending discs to people that might have such issues.

I think when it comes to what's on the market retail wise, I'd like to think Verbatim brand is the best out there for basic consumers. Memorex brand is sheer garbage though. I can't vouch for Verbatim brand 100%, but with my own experience, they seem to be a bit better, certainly better than Memorex shite. Honestly CDr is really a bit disappointing in so many ways, but it seems like a format that is always going to be attached to DIY anything, so one learns to deal with and accept, I suppose. I guess I'd rather have a CDr with a limited life expectancy than have some bullshit file on a computer that goes into the hard drive ether and then forgotten about like everything else that randomly gets stored away in some hard drive collective of sorts.

Balor/SS1535

Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 19, 2024, 04:35:32 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 14, 2024, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on October 14, 2024, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 13, 2024, 08:39:16 PMThankfully, when mine work, the whole thing seems to play fine.  It seems strange that only some tracks would work, barring scratches on the discs themselves.

I've actually never had problems for the most part with CDRs that just glitch here and there. When they do start to glitch, its usually towards the end of the disc, typically the last 10 minutes or so. Which I tend to feel may be more of a longevity issue than the burning issues Zeno mentioned.

And pretty much none of the problematic ones had any obvious physical blemishes. It really does seem like for older CDRs from the 90s/early 00s, it was the brand used more than anything.

Ok, I think I'm just going to have to investigate the brand I have been using.  I have been fairly lucky with CDrs so far (with the exception of one I burned out as a kid many years ago), but I want to avoid sending discs to people that might have such issues.

I think when it comes to what's on the market retail wise, I'd like to think Verbatim brand is the best out there for basic consumers. Memorex brand is sheer garbage though. I can't vouch for Verbatim brand 100%, but with my own experience, they seem to be a bit better, certainly better than Memorex shite. Honestly CDr is really a bit disappointing in so many ways, but it seems like a format that is always going to be attached to DIY anything, so one learns to deal with and accept, I suppose. I guess I'd rather have a CDr with a limited life expectancy than have some bullshit file on a computer that goes into the hard drive ether and then forgotten about like everything else that randomly gets stored away in some hard drive collective of sorts.

Seeing these names written out, I want to say that I have been using Verbatim brand.  I wonder if some of my difficulties have anything to do with the burner I have been using?  If the interface is anything to go by, the program seems a bit out of date in comparison with my computer.

Cementimental

the only CDr i ever had die so far (touch wood) was one which came packaged floating in a bag of water

Cranial Blast

Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 19, 2024, 06:46:18 AM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 19, 2024, 04:35:32 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 14, 2024, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on October 14, 2024, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 13, 2024, 08:39:16 PMThankfully, when mine work, the whole thing seems to play fine.  It seems strange that only some tracks would work, barring scratches on the discs themselves.

I've actually never had problems for the most part with CDRs that just glitch here and there. When they do start to glitch, its usually towards the end of the disc, typically the last 10 minutes or so. Which I tend to feel may be more of a longevity issue than the burning issues Zeno mentioned.

And pretty much none of the problematic ones had any obvious physical blemishes. It really does seem like for older CDRs from the 90s/early 00s, it was the brand used more than anything.

Ok, I think I'm just going to have to investigate the brand I have been using.  I have been fairly lucky with CDrs so far (with the exception of one I burned out as a kid many years ago), but I want to avoid sending discs to people that might have such issues.

I think when it comes to what's on the market retail wise, I'd like to think Verbatim brand is the best out there for basic consumers. Memorex brand is sheer garbage though. I can't vouch for Verbatim brand 100%, but with my own experience, they seem to be a bit better, certainly better than Memorex shite. Honestly CDr is really a bit disappointing in so many ways, but it seems like a format that is always going to be attached to DIY anything, so one learns to deal with and accept, I suppose. I guess I'd rather have a CDr with a limited life expectancy than have some bullshit file on a computer that goes into the hard drive ether and then forgotten about like everything else that randomly gets stored away in some hard drive collective of sorts.

Seeing these names written out, I want to say that I have been using Verbatim brand.  I wonder if some of my difficulties have anything to do with the burner I have been using?  If the interface is anything to go by, the program seems a bit out of date in comparison with my computer.

I've been using the burner that was built into my old laptop, which works okay. Some folks have told me that the after market burners that you can buy individually and connect to your computer are worse than the old stock ones built into...whether that is true or not, I've got no experience to make a judgment.

Balor/SS1535

Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 26, 2024, 05:59:52 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 19, 2024, 06:46:18 AM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 19, 2024, 04:35:32 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 14, 2024, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on October 14, 2024, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 13, 2024, 08:39:16 PMThankfully, when mine work, the whole thing seems to play fine.  It seems strange that only some tracks would work, barring scratches on the discs themselves.

I've actually never had problems for the most part with CDRs that just glitch here and there. When they do start to glitch, its usually towards the end of the disc, typically the last 10 minutes or so. Which I tend to feel may be more of a longevity issue than the burning issues Zeno mentioned.

And pretty much none of the problematic ones had any obvious physical blemishes. It really does seem like for older CDRs from the 90s/early 00s, it was the brand used more than anything.

Ok, I think I'm just going to have to investigate the brand I have been using.  I have been fairly lucky with CDrs so far (with the exception of one I burned out as a kid many years ago), but I want to avoid sending discs to people that might have such issues.

I think when it comes to what's on the market retail wise, I'd like to think Verbatim brand is the best out there for basic consumers. Memorex brand is sheer garbage though. I can't vouch for Verbatim brand 100%, but with my own experience, they seem to be a bit better, certainly better than Memorex shite. Honestly CDr is really a bit disappointing in so many ways, but it seems like a format that is always going to be attached to DIY anything, so one learns to deal with and accept, I suppose. I guess I'd rather have a CDr with a limited life expectancy than have some bullshit file on a computer that goes into the hard drive ether and then forgotten about like everything else that randomly gets stored away in some hard drive collective of sorts.

Seeing these names written out, I want to say that I have been using Verbatim brand.  I wonder if some of my difficulties have anything to do with the burner I have been using?  If the interface is anything to go by, the program seems a bit out of date in comparison with my computer.

I've been using the burner that was built into my old laptop, which works okay. Some folks have told me that the after market burners that you can buy individually and connect to your computer are worse than the old stock ones built into...whether that is true or not, I've got no experience to make a judgment.

I have one of the external burners, and it seems to work fine.  I'm no computer expert by any stretch of the imagination, but the program that goes along with it does seem to be out of date---if the interface is anything to go by.  Everything loads up with microscopic font for some reason.  I can still manage to get CDrs out, though.

Cranial Blast

#24
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 26, 2024, 07:52:36 AM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 26, 2024, 05:59:52 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 19, 2024, 06:46:18 AM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 19, 2024, 04:35:32 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 14, 2024, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on October 14, 2024, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 13, 2024, 08:39:16 PMThankfully, when mine work, the whole thing seems to play fine.  It seems strange that only some tracks would work, barring scratches on the discs themselves.

I've actually never had problems for the most part with CDRs that just glitch here and there. When they do start to glitch, its usually towards the end of the disc, typically the last 10 minutes or so. Which I tend to feel may be more of a longevity issue than the burning issues Zeno mentioned.

And pretty much none of the problematic ones had any obvious physical blemishes. It really does seem like for older CDRs from the 90s/early 00s, it was the brand used more than anything.

Ok, I think I'm just going to have to investigate the brand I have been using.  I have been fairly lucky with CDrs so far (with the exception of one I burned out as a kid many years ago), but I want to avoid sending discs to people that might have such issues.

I think when it comes to what's on the market retail wise, I'd like to think Verbatim brand is the best out there for basic consumers. Memorex brand is sheer garbage though. I can't vouch for Verbatim brand 100%, but with my own experience, they seem to be a bit better, certainly better than Memorex shite. Honestly CDr is really a bit disappointing in so many ways, but it seems like a format that is always going to be attached to DIY anything, so one learns to deal with and accept, I suppose. I guess I'd rather have a CDr with a limited life expectancy than have some bullshit file on a computer that goes into the hard drive ether and then forgotten about like everything else that randomly gets stored away in some hard drive collective of sorts.

Seeing these names written out, I want to say that I have been using Verbatim brand.  I wonder if some of my difficulties have anything to do with the burner I have been using?  If the interface is anything to go by, the program seems a bit out of date in comparison with my computer.

I've been using the burner that was built into my old laptop, which works okay. Some folks have told me that the after market burners that you can buy individually and connect to your computer are worse than the old stock ones built into...whether that is true or not, I've got no experience to make a judgment.

I have one of the external burners, and it seems to work fine.  I'm no computer expert by any stretch of the imagination, but the program that goes along with it does seem to be out of date---if the interface is anything to go by.  Everything loads up with microscopic font for some reason.  I can still manage to get CDrs out, though.

I'm probably going to pick one of those external ones up down the road and see how that works for me. Some people say it's better, but like you say maybe with some software update could be better yet maybe. I'm no computer expert either, that's why I'm hung up on my old laptop that has everything in it already. It's unfortunate that these new laptops today have nothing but a screen on them, haha. You're lucky if you get anything outside of a single USB port now a days.

Balor/SS1535

Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 26, 2024, 04:41:38 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 26, 2024, 07:52:36 AM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 26, 2024, 05:59:52 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 19, 2024, 06:46:18 AM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 19, 2024, 04:35:32 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 14, 2024, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on October 14, 2024, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 13, 2024, 08:39:16 PMThankfully, when mine work, the whole thing seems to play fine.  It seems strange that only some tracks would work, barring scratches on the discs themselves.

I've actually never had problems for the most part with CDRs that just glitch here and there. When they do start to glitch, its usually towards the end of the disc, typically the last 10 minutes or so. Which I tend to feel may be more of a longevity issue than the burning issues Zeno mentioned.

And pretty much none of the problematic ones had any obvious physical blemishes. It really does seem like for older CDRs from the 90s/early 00s, it was the brand used more than anything.

Ok, I think I'm just going to have to investigate the brand I have been using.  I have been fairly lucky with CDrs so far (with the exception of one I burned out as a kid many years ago), but I want to avoid sending discs to people that might have such issues.

I think when it comes to what's on the market retail wise, I'd like to think Verbatim brand is the best out there for basic consumers. Memorex brand is sheer garbage though. I can't vouch for Verbatim brand 100%, but with my own experience, they seem to be a bit better, certainly better than Memorex shite. Honestly CDr is really a bit disappointing in so many ways, but it seems like a format that is always going to be attached to DIY anything, so one learns to deal with and accept, I suppose. I guess I'd rather have a CDr with a limited life expectancy than have some bullshit file on a computer that goes into the hard drive ether and then forgotten about like everything else that randomly gets stored away in some hard drive collective of sorts.

Seeing these names written out, I want to say that I have been using Verbatim brand.  I wonder if some of my difficulties have anything to do with the burner I have been using?  If the interface is anything to go by, the program seems a bit out of date in comparison with my computer.

I've been using the burner that was built into my old laptop, which works okay. Some folks have told me that the after market burners that you can buy individually and connect to your computer are worse than the old stock ones built into...whether that is true or not, I've got no experience to make a judgment.

I have one of the external burners, and it seems to work fine.  I'm no computer expert by any stretch of the imagination, but the program that goes along with it does seem to be out of date---if the interface is anything to go by.  Everything loads up with microscopic font for some reason.  I can still manage to get CDrs out, though.

I'm probably going to pick one of those external ones up down the road and see how that works for me. Some people say it's better, but like you say maybe with some software update could be better yet maybe. I'm no computer expert either, that's why I'm hung up on my old laptop that has everything in it already. It's unfortunate that these new laptops today have nothing but a screen on them, haha. You're lucky if you get anything outside of a single USB port now a days.

Definitely!  It's really a pain, as the single USB means everything has to be moved out of the external harddrive, put on the computer (somewhere in its files, somehow unfindable even though I just did it), and then put in the burner.  Very tedious and annoying---especially when a second USB would solve the whole issue!

Cranial Blast

Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 26, 2024, 10:28:02 PM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 26, 2024, 04:41:38 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 26, 2024, 07:52:36 AM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 26, 2024, 05:59:52 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 19, 2024, 06:46:18 AM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on October 19, 2024, 04:35:32 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 14, 2024, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on October 14, 2024, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on October 13, 2024, 08:39:16 PMThankfully, when mine work, the whole thing seems to play fine.  It seems strange that only some tracks would work, barring scratches on the discs themselves.

I've actually never had problems for the most part with CDRs that just glitch here and there. When they do start to glitch, its usually towards the end of the disc, typically the last 10 minutes or so. Which I tend to feel may be more of a longevity issue than the burning issues Zeno mentioned.

And pretty much none of the problematic ones had any obvious physical blemishes. It really does seem like for older CDRs from the 90s/early 00s, it was the brand used more than anything.

Ok, I think I'm just going to have to investigate the brand I have been using.  I have been fairly lucky with CDrs so far (with the exception of one I burned out as a kid many years ago), but I want to avoid sending discs to people that might have such issues.

I think when it comes to what's on the market retail wise, I'd like to think Verbatim brand is the best out there for basic consumers. Memorex brand is sheer garbage though. I can't vouch for Verbatim brand 100%, but with my own experience, they seem to be a bit better, certainly better than Memorex shite. Honestly CDr is really a bit disappointing in so many ways, but it seems like a format that is always going to be attached to DIY anything, so one learns to deal with and accept, I suppose. I guess I'd rather have a CDr with a limited life expectancy than have some bullshit file on a computer that goes into the hard drive ether and then forgotten about like everything else that randomly gets stored away in some hard drive collective of sorts.

Seeing these names written out, I want to say that I have been using Verbatim brand.  I wonder if some of my difficulties have anything to do with the burner I have been using?  If the interface is anything to go by, the program seems a bit out of date in comparison with my computer.

I've been using the burner that was built into my old laptop, which works okay. Some folks have told me that the after market burners that you can buy individually and connect to your computer are worse than the old stock ones built into...whether that is true or not, I've got no experience to make a judgment.

I have one of the external burners, and it seems to work fine.  I'm no computer expert by any stretch of the imagination, but the program that goes along with it does seem to be out of date---if the interface is anything to go by.  Everything loads up with microscopic font for some reason.  I can still manage to get CDrs out, though.

I'm probably going to pick one of those external ones up down the road and see how that works for me. Some people say it's better, but like you say maybe with some software update could be better yet maybe. I'm no computer expert either, that's why I'm hung up on my old laptop that has everything in it already. It's unfortunate that these new laptops today have nothing but a screen on them, haha. You're lucky if you get anything outside of a single USB port now a days.

Definitely!  It's really a pain, as the single USB means everything has to be moved out of the external harddrive, put on the computer (somewhere in its files, somehow unfindable even though I just did it), and then put in the burner.  Very tedious and annoying---especially when a second USB would solve the whole issue!

Yep! That would all be to easy. It's like we're intentionally going backwards in some ways and usually it's for the purpose to sell us another accessory/add on or something that use to be free. It's kind of like when you'd get a phone, the service provider would practically give you a phone for little or free and it would come with charging block and now you're paying more than ever for a phone and now you've got to buy the plug in block!