True Crime Electronics (Slogun, Deathpile, Bloodyminded, etc.)

[FreakAnimalFinland]

different cases, the most exciting one is Indian sk the stoneman, but also canadian mass murderer Marc Lépine who was in the actual picture of the record

Back in the day, I used to have Marc Lepine t-shirt, where man was pictured in the front and the back side with text "Feminist have always ruined my life" that was one of the things he mentioned in suicide letter. One time was on the road to play a gig, and stopped to buy some ice cream with bunch of guys. After paying it and was walking away, ice cream stall teen girl shouted "WAIT!!! What is written on your shirt??". I stand still while she reads out loud "Feminists.. have.. always.. ruined my life!" and then bursted into massive laughter.

(Shirt wasn't really Con-Dom related, though. Track "Commando Terreur" refers to Lepine case.)

While opening message mentions that "it's an overdone topic in noise", I feel quite different. I think it is overdone topic in mass media, social media, podcasts, and so on. Within noise, there would be still place for it. Of course noise & p.e. acts were dealing with topic extensively, but inflation of true crime for me is all about the later mainstream style where there simply doesn't exist enough petty crime that it wouldn't be dissected in hours long girls talking about criminals -type of podcast..

[tiny_tove]

I agree. True crime has and will ever have place in this if done with a different perspective than simply glorifiying nutcases. Deeper analysis or, as in the case of your shirt, focusing on statements and the idea behind these hunters.

[Kaaoskultti]

different cases, the most exciting one is Indian sk the stoneman, but also canadian mass murderer Marc Lépine who was in the actual picture of the record

Back in the day, I used to have Marc Lepine t-shirt, where man was pictured in the front and the back side with text "Feminist have always ruined my life" that was one of the things he mentioned in suicide letter. One time was on the road to play a gig, and stopped to buy some ice cream with bunch of guys. After paying it and was walking away, ice cream stall teen girl shouted "WAIT!!! What is written on your shirt??". I stand still while she reads out loud "Feminists.. have.. always.. ruined my life!" and then bursted into massive laughter.

"The First incel? The legacy of Marc Lépine"

Haha, one of the greatest things I've read on this forum. I wonder who would ever have the courage to print such a shirt. Or maybe you'd made it yourself? Surely I'd love one of these if I ever get the chance to grab it with my hands, in however (peculiar) selling situation.

Anyway, without wanting to bring onto this forum large discussions on the "Inceldom" phenomenom, nor implying the people involved in those actions can be reduced to such, I made a link to an interesting article I've came accross once, while searching for information on Marc Lépine. It's interesting to note shifts in mass media interpretations of these events, as the article states that had it happened today, it would be automatically coined an Incel-attack, something which obviously did not happen during that time.

The counterside is that, nowadays, any school-shooting or mass killing is directly or indirectly explained under such terms. But even when one takes a look at Columbine, where both Eric and more intensely, Dylan, mourned or cursed their lack of intimacy with the opposite sex; had casual hookups or "girlfriends" as it was stated by some of their colleagues, but remained most of their lives within the classic spectrum of the nihilistic, lone, awkward, socially inadequate, hate-filled teenager male outcast, makes me think they aswell would fall under that category, had it happened today. It's just a matter of convenience: back then the blame was to fall on music, video-games & guns; today it is on "toxic masculinity", "white privilege", social medias and bullying.