IDEA FOR A NEW THREAD: Conceptual/lyrical analysis of albums

Started by Kaaoskultti, Today at 02:46:46 PM

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Kaaoskultti

I have been, for the past few months, intensely making really top-notch analysis of the lyrical content of diverse albums with ChatGPT. Before anyone kills me, let me warn yourselves that this is not, as it might appear, a sleazy and shallow endeavour. That AI really does a great job if one uses it correctly, such as adding the actual lyrics to the prompt and programming it to create a serious effort on doing such. I feel like it would be interesting to post here some of the (translated to english) analyses that have been made; some which are truly outstanding and offered me information which I never would have thought (for example, on Deterge's "Borax Five Families" being about how " (...) an object's value depends almost entirely on its circulation, the distinction between commodity, money, and symbol becomes increasingly difficult to sustain. It is this gray area that the album transforms into sonic art" ("his" words).

Nevertheless, "actual intelligence" analyses of albums and such - that's where I am aiming at aswell. We already have a thread for musical reviews of albums, why not create one focused on the concepts and ideas therein? And again, please correct if I'm mistaken on such one already existing here. As for me, I'm making in-depth reviews of Brethren's "Savage Inequalities" and The Boyd Rice Experience's "Hatesville!", the latter being quite hillarious.
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host body

I'm sorry, but I can't be the only one to think such things are better left between you and AI. AI can do anything you throw at it it seems, but am I interested in an AI analysis of anything? Not really.

Skin Flick

Better idea, just analyze it yourself and write it down. Sounds much more interesting than having a computer do it for you.

Kaaoskultti

Again, non-AI analyses of albums are welcomed as I've stated. On the perceived shallowness and futility of such endeavours: I'm sure if one would actually engage in such, would find out that, if programmed correctly, the AI can actually produce quite interesting examinations that range from being just fun to really outstanding. It all boils down to how one uses it, not the use of it in itself. I understand it may sound dumb, but we're not talking about trashy deepnudes or whatever.

Quote from: host body on Today at 05:42:02 PMI'm sorry, but I can't be the only one to think such things are better left between you and AI. AI can do anything you throw at it it seems, but am I interested in an AI analysis of anything? Not really.
Fair enough, to be honest.
ZOB ZYGGLAN - Brazilian Power Electronics - https://zobzygglan.bandcamp.com/

Balor/SS1535

I guess the retardation finally reached this place too...

Balor/SS1535

As a more substantive reply, however, I will say that the perception of AI creating anything "new" or "innovative" in terms of analysis is entirely false, as it is trained on pre-existing materials and chains of association.  If the output seems "new" or "innovative," that is simply because you yourself are not aware enough of pre-existing materials and chains of association.  At bottom, that means using AI to do what is proposed here is just deciding that you would rather not take the effort to learn about such things for yourself.

Seriously, what's the point of this?  AI is constantly being pushed as a tool for efficiency.  I would assume efficiency is a goal because it would allow us to dedicate more time to the things we enjoy.  So why are we handing the things we enjoy over to AI?  So that we can engage less personally with them?

This forum has been on a slow decline since the Finnish language thread diverted most of the discussion activity anyway, so maybe this is a logical evolution.