Why Do You Listen To Noise? (I'm writing an opinion article)

Started by Arvo, November 18, 2011, 02:56:49 AM

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ImpulsyStetoskopu

Quote from: xdementia on December 29, 2011, 05:53:49 AM
Frustration is probably the most common incentive. Frustration of the Noise enthusiast can come from a desire to create something different, to be unique; it might come from a disappointment in traditional music,


I am not able to agree with that point (at least considering my life, sensitivity etc.). My passion in noise industrial music doesn't come from frustration a desire to create something different or disappointment in traditional music. Generally speaking it comes from my nature, blood, brain.. this isn't reaction on frustration etc. This is a mystic relationship... I couldn't listen other music in my home day after day, in every hour in my life, this music is something like water and air... Of course, there are some consequences in relations to society, other people, mainstream values but these are only consequences....

xdementia

Quote from: ImpulsyStetoskopu on December 29, 2011, 08:55:21 AM
Quote from: xdementia on December 29, 2011, 05:53:49 AM
Frustration is probably the most common incentive. Frustration of the Noise enthusiast can come from a desire to create something different, to be unique; it might come from a disappointment in traditional music,


I am not able to agree with that point (at least considering my life, sensitivity etc.). My passion in noise industrial music doesn't come from frustration a desire to create something different or disappointment in traditional music. Generally speaking it comes from my nature, blood, brain.. this isn't reaction on frustration etc. This is a mystic relationship... I couldn't listen other music in my home day after day, in every hour in my life, this music is something like water and air... Of course, there are some consequences in relations to society, other people, mainstream values but these are only consequences....

I understand what your saying and it's totally legit. For the paper I was trying to explain to people who don't know anything about noise/industrial why someone would be interested in it. It's funny how you mention air and water when I I also said this a few paragraphs down:

QuoteRain, wind in the leaves of the forest, waves crashing on the shore are all sounds that can be found in nature and considered beautiful sounds by many that also are very close to pure noise.

I know I wasn't saying it in the same way you were but I just saw the coincidence there.

To go deeper into your attraction to noise/industrial though - I would say that I agree with you it is a mystic relationship but that level of appreciation for me was something that grew over time. The frustration I write about is what led me to explore the sound in the beginning. For instance, you say noise is like water and air - by which I assume you mean almost akin to a survival need - yet if you don't breathe you suffocate, and if you don't drink you dehydrate. So was there some kind of intense need on a survival level to hear noise/industrial music before you discovered it? If so, how did this need manifest itself?

ImpulsyStetoskopu

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Quote from: xdementia on December 30, 2011, 06:35:51 AM
The frustration I write about is what led me to explore the sound in the beginning.

No doubt everybody had different motives. For example, I wrote more about that in interview with me which should issue soon in TERROR zine, when I was five, I lived with my parents in picturesque, upland outskirts of a town located in a region of Poland with many Soviet military bases with airfield for military aircraft. The aircraft would fly over the hill and one day, while playing outside, I saw a huge shadow around me. I raised my head and saw an enormous MiG-27, literally a few dozen meters above me. Since the plane was flying very fast, the roaring of the engines came a while later. It was a terrifying, piercing noise. Obviously, it really scared me and, crying, I ran to my mum. It was terrible experience for me but after some years I liked it. Next, when I was a teenager,  I saw Andrzej Wajda's film "The Promised Land", a story of a rising Polish industrial city in the 19th century's raw capitalism. Its many visual and sonic elements drew my attention. They were about old factories, machinery at work and helplessness of an individual confronted with the new, industrial environment. At the time I used to go on school trips to local industrial sites and with great interest I looked at and listened to textile mills and industrial automation facilities. I loved these sounds and I didn't think about frustration then, I wasn't conscious about all that anticulture, industrial music, antisystem activities. My "frustration" against popular music, which I hated indeed, were such groups like PINK FLOYD, KING CRIMSON and so on, who were for me an antidote for pop music then. So, it wasn't frustration but something like fascination this kind of beauty. Only in Polish langauage and in history of art works the term "turpizm" as category of aesthetics consisting in perceiving all ugliness in our life and nature as classic beauty. So it would be reason for me, not frustration.

You had different impressions, which I don't want to question. I questioned only your thesis about frustration what I understood that you consider only this reason listening noise music.

Quote from: xdementia on December 30, 2011, 06:35:51 AM
For instance, you say noise is like water and air - by which I assume you mean almost akin to a survival need - yet if you don't breathe you suffocate, and if you don't drink you dehydrate. So was there some kind of intense need on a survival level to hear noise/industrial music before you discovered it? If so, how did this need manifest itself?

My comparison was too much pathetic... I didn't mention breath and water (and noise) as factors to survive, but something like a natural reaction of my body.