TRUE CRIME & RELATED

Started by tiny_tove, February 23, 2010, 03:24:01 PM

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Jordan

   This whole Luka thing has been one of the most fascinating human interest stories as of late, at least for us Canadians. Too much is never enough. I don't know where you find all this stuff, but please keep it coming.

   Though I thought the Russell Williams story was a lot of fun, especially seeing as how he was the queen's personal pilot for a time. The pictures of him in women's underwear are hilarious contrasted to the photos of him and the queen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRgRXgi5j2w

Still, he looks like a sissy compared to Luka, which is odd because he's a big burly army guy with a cop/Henry Rollins type jaw and Luka is diminutive and effeminate.

   Robert "Willie" Pickton had some funny lines ("Pickton spoke in difficult-to-understand sentences, and said odd things, like "I'm mind-baffling," and "It's nice to have nose hair" while picking his nose.  The Crown argued the jury could believe Pickton's confessions because prosecutors proved at least one of the stories he told to police was accurate: that two small pigs were let loose in the Downtown Eastside on Christmas Eve 1997. Pickton bragged about police chasing after his pigs, and said in a sing-song voice: " 'Twas the night before Christmas and all through the streets not a soul to be found except two little pigs and two working girls." I think once when talking about letting the pigs loose and the subsequent attempts by the police to capture them he said something like "It's hilarious to watch the pigs chasing some pigs.") but nothing as mind-blowing as any of the Luka stuff.

   Luka is a national treasure, but I'm glad he's caught because I like kittens.

HongKongGoolagong

The Williams/Bernado connection is pretty fascinating. I have plenty of Ontario relatives, they are all nuts and dysfunctional as fuck.

The Pickton registered charity name "Piggy Palace Good Times Society" is kind of unforgettable. A nice resource site on Vancouver's missing downtown eastside hookers is at http://www.missingpeople.net/home.html Also see the highly entertaining and bizarre Abel Danger conspiraloon site I linked above for much lurid speculation.

There's a joke about how a Canadian road movie would have as the exciting plot twist someone making a turn without indicating, but when it comes to bizarre crime Canada is up there with Russia.

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RyanWreck

It's like fish in a barrel for bullies.

I always thought that bullying was just a part of growing up. You make fun of some people, haze the new kids, and all that good stuff. I could see bullying as maybe even helping in the long run. Learn how to stick up for yourself, defend yourself, make friends and find out why you are a target and then stop being one. Kids are just gigantic pussies now.

bitewerksMTB

Pickton is waaaaay more interesting than Luka! I use to have a huge stack of Van.BC articles on Pickton & his victims, some with handwritten notes from a fellow who was knew some of the victims. Little stories about what they were like as pro's & what kind of drugs they preferred. I haven't kept up but it seems like by now there would be some books on the case. If it wasn't for BC, Canada would be completely worthless- along with the crime, they've got extreme metal & BC is a mountain biking paradise!

I was joking about the research. Keep it up, it's entertaining & seems weird b/c I have no clue where I would even begin to look for his filmography!

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Jordan

Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on June 08, 2012, 06:12:04 AM
The Williams/Bernado connection is pretty fascinating. I have plenty of Ontario relatives, they are all nuts and dysfunctional as fuck.

The Pickton registered charity name "Piggy Palace Good Times Society" is kind of unforgettable. A nice resource site on Vancouver's missing downtown eastside hookers is at http://www.missingpeople.net/home.html Also see the highly entertaining and bizarre Abel Danger conspiraloon site I linked above for much lurid speculation.

There's a joke about how a Canadian road movie would have as the exciting plot twist someone making a turn without indicating, but when it comes to bizarre crime Canada is up there with Russia.

I live in Ontario and I'm completely normal. Actually, I'm from the middle of nowhere in Northern Ontario. A guy I grew up with whose aunt used to bail him out on his coke debts stabbed her like a hundred times and fucked her corpse a lot. I'm so from the middle of nowhere I can't even find a story about it on the internet. Recently my aunt tried to drug her son's baby mother and torch her house, but was unsuccessful. It made national news though because she's a cop.

Highway 61 is an okay Canadian road movie.

Anyway, back to Luka:

http://www.thespec.com/news/canada/article/739556--is-luka-magnotta-l-a-s-dismemberment-killer


Jordan

Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 08, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Pickton is waaaaay more interesting than Luka! I use to have a huge stack of Van.BC articles on Pickton & his victims, some with handwritten notes from a fellow who was knew some of the victims. Little stories about what they were like as pro's & what kind of drugs they preferred. I haven't kept up but it seems like by now there would be some books on the case. If it wasn't for BC, Canada would be completely worthless- along with the crime, they've got extreme metal & BC is a mountain biking paradise!

I was joking about the research. Keep it up, it's entertaining & seems weird b/c I have no clue where I would even begin to look for his filmography!

Clifford Olson said some pretty hilarious stuff as well, unfortunately he passed away recently.

BC is filled with stinking hippies, and Pickton never sent any body parts to the Government.

Still, Canada is almost completely worthless, although I really like the wilderness around where I grew up.

HongKongGoolagong

What a pair of Canadian scumbags Michael Rafferty and Terri-Lynne McClintic are. I don't often get upset with reading details of true crime stories but some of their behaviour was really sickening. Everyone's favourite Goth 12-year old 'Runaway Devil' Jasmine Richardson was rather more appealing. Most of my Canadian relatives are in Hamilton. They all seem to be alcoholics, get divorced every year and go to the mall a lot.

I got the Luka filmography from his French wikipedia page, someone in turn trawled the internet adult film database for that  - journalists have picked up on his Vancouver connection for the 'Street Bait' film. Wondered if he'd picked the name in allusion to the Suzanne Vega song about an abused child but seems it was just intended to imply some kind of eastern European street boy vibe for gay porn viewers. Seems he did enjoy Lady Gaga's 'I Like It Rough' though - http://www.abproject.org/gallery3/index.php/VBKK/1294467867135 - how much funnier than True Faith that song would have been for the soundtrack of his directorial triumph Icepick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9dPr9N0vAo has some good research. His mother's myspace with photos of them having a rather strained looking day out is still around. There are craigslist ads still online from a few weeks ago which were probably by him. I wish I'd saved everything I'd found, like the Duncan case a lot of it will disappear and be forgotten. The pearltrees link has been wildly expanded recently and is probably the best resource around.

Some titles of his other films, the animal torture ones, include "Titon's Last Breath', 'Spartacus' Bath', 'Apollo's Bath' and '1 Cat 1 Christmas'. What a sick fuck.

Jordan

The forum linked from that LukaLeaks video seems interesting, although it says that the video debuted in the deep web on the 20th, and I thought the murder happened on the 25th or thereabouts.

Rafferty and McClintic were definitely just white trash scumbags and not particularly interesting, although during Rafferty's trial recently it was funny how McClintic was trying to put everything on Rafferty and saying she was just a confused drug addict although she was a documented history of homicidal ideation that makes it pretty obvious that she was hot to kill. It's fucked that the cops searched his laptop without a warrant despite a recent ruling that was quite public that said a computer is like a house and the police need a separate search warrant to search a computer found in a warranted search on a home. He had extremely violent child pornography but that wasn't admissible in court.

I lived in Alberta during the Richardson/Steinke thing and all the weird old Albertans I worked with found my interest in her case to be rather alarming or something.

I lived in Hamilton for a while and I hated it.


Jordan

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LUKA LOVED SATAN: http://luka-magnotta-magnotta-luka.blogspot.ca/2011/04/nine-satanic-statements-sins-and-rules.html


I used to buy meth at Remington's Men Of Steel, the strip club where Luka worked, around the time that he worked there apparently. I wonder if I ever crossed his path?

bitewerksMTB

I have a couple of books on Clifford Olsen. Seems like one of them is about conspiracies or cover-up's involving the police or something?


Jordan

I think you're talking about Where Shadows Linger maybe? That book is mostly about the $100,000 paid to Olson's wife in exchange for the location of the bodies. I like how during his parole hearing a few years ago he said that he gave the United States information about 9/11 and in exchange they had granted him clemency so the parole hearing had no jurisdiction over him.

A couple of years ago he sent one of his Old Age Security pension cheques to a Sun reporter and asked him to forward it to Prime Minister Stephen Harper's reelection campaign.

Funny guy.


HongKongGoolagong

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Obscure Luka detective work: http://www.crackyhouse.com/board/kareha.pl/1338940184/ - the tinychat conversations while he was on the run are extremely oblique. And anonymous message boards are extremely unreliable sources.

I managed to convince myself that it wasn't him in the kitten videos yesterday through overthinking all this. The girl who probably does appear with him in the python clip is now posting on documentingreality and talking in PMs to one of my bandmates. It's insane! I don't know if anyone knows the HaLeigh Cummings case but it's starting to remind me of it in that everyone else as well as Luka seems to be fucking lying, the truth is buried already. Photoshops, fake postings, lies from cops and media outlets, trolls and animal activists. He'll be medicated and given the lone nut treatment in court.

Weird shit continues: http://marie-laure-bessege-montreal-missing.blogspot.co.uk/