Broken Flag Festival reviews

[impulse manslaughter]

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great weekend! wanted to see the damien hirst exebition but couldn't get a ticket for the weekend. found some good places to eat which caused us missing a few acts..

le syndicat - saw them live last year as a 3 piece. this time just 2 guys but i didn't like their set..
con-dom - almost ambient power electronics. not the confrontational act i was expecting but still i enjoyed the show.
skullflower - i rarely listen to them at home but their live show was really good. my favorite of all the rock(ish) acts.
ramleh - first band with a really loud sound. good set but a bit too long for me and like someone said earlier, a bit clumsy at times..
jfk - i'm not familiar with their output but this was good.
grunt - first track sounded a bit weak but this set turned out to be one of my favorites of the fest. old school PE approach with enough diversity to keep my attention. would've been perfect with a more aggressive 'frontman'.
esplendor geometrico - pre-recorded tracks with added live sounds.. i think they started up the same track twice by accident but i'm not sure. nice industrial break.
consumer electronics - an impressive wall of sound but it sounded a bit too digital for me.
putrefier - could't keep my attention
sigillum s - not familiar with their recent output but liked what they did..
giancarlo toniutti - quadraphonic sound, mixing pre-recorded sounds.. reminded me of the john duncan set at the LFOM fest. very good!
club moral - great to see an 'old guy' like ddv who's not jaded doing a very powerful old school performance! personally, i think it would've been better without the introduction/explanation he started with. i thought it was great that amvk looked like somebody's mom.
ramleh (rock) - some good moments but overall just terrible..
the new blockaders - smashing up some random junk was the perfect ending for this festival..

[pentd]

burn one naked and nuke it!!!

[GEWALTMONOPOL]

I'm glad Hal didn't resort to the stage props and antics of TNB. Havoc is not a word that applies to their performance as it was so clearly staged. Slinging pieces of metal around that isn't even miced up both looks and sounds lame. Hal spared us that clownery. What he gave us was a strong and increasingly earsplitting set which built very slowly over the duration. Maybe youngnosh doesn't have the attention span it takes to sit through 20-30 minutes of something like that. What TNB gave us was a crowd pleaser with plenty of things that glistened but little else. It's silly to compare the two but if we must then I think it's so obvious that Hal pissed all over what TNB did at BF.

[HongKongGoolagong]

the stage props and antics of TNB. Havoc is not a word that applies to their performance as it was so clearly staged. Slinging pieces of metal around that isn't even miced up both looks and sounds lame

Well, aren't all performances staged? It's hardly a natural place to be, if anyone wants undisputed 'authenticity' in aggressive action maybe a screaming row with your husband or wife is the place to find it. A live performance is theatre, and even Antonin Artaud and GG Allin knew the limitations.

[GEWALTMONOPOL]

True, and some suck more than others. In my notoriously unhumble opinion I thought TNB sucked rather royally on Sunday.

I know he likes his tributes which makes him the ideal member for last Sundays panto. Bless his cotton socks.

[youngnosh]

I'm glad Hal didn't resort to the stage props and antics of TNB. Havoc is not a word that applies to their performance as it was so clearly staged. Slinging pieces of metal around that isn't even miced up both looks and sounds lame. Hal spared us that clownery. What he gave us was a strong and increasingly earsplitting set which built very slowly over the duration. Maybe youngnosh doesn't have the attention span it takes to sit through 20-30 minutes of something like that. What TNB gave us was a crowd pleaser with plenty of things that glistened but little else. It's silly to compare the two but if we must then I think it's so obvious that Hal pissed all over what TNB did at BF.

I think my points being missed here, the comparison to TNB is not about stage presence (which I don't think matters) it is about how much is being done live. The real point for me is that an extremely large portion of Hals sound was a loop and he seemed to put very little ontop of it, so to me it came accross as karaoke.
As for the attention span - I had a long enough one to sit through about 45 mins to an hour of Aaron Dilloways slow build,tape loop mastery where he looked like he didn't have chance enough to breathe let alone drink beer and watch a video!

[GEWALTMONOPOL]

OK, Hal, for not doing enough on stage, is karaoke. TNB with stage props that weren't plugged in, a backing CD and no original members, is great.

Aaron Dilloway? I saw him once. He was fading different wall like sounds in and out of each other for about 15 minutes. I suppose with the right touch it could have been alright, maybe even good. Sadly for him it wasn't. Not quite karaoke, but it certainly did suck. Maybe he was better when you saw him.

[youngnosh]

I don't know what to say to be honest...maybe you're not allowing yourself to see anything negative because you've got a product to sell and you put on the gig.

[GEWALTMONOPOL]

I don't know what to say to be honest

Maybe that's because I caught you with your pants down talking out of your arse.

maybe you're not allowing yourself to see anything negative because you've got a product to sell and you put on the gig.

Chief, dislike me, my label, my festival (which was organised by someone else), my character, my woman, my house, Hal and every fucking thing about me you can think of. But when you do have a go, make sure your whinging has less double standards next time. You know, to spare yourself from looking like a numpty again.

[youngnosh]

I've read the reply but i'll say this anyway.

Sorry - i'm letting this get a little too negative. Must reiterate that I really do enjoy Hals recorded output and i'll keep going to see him because i'm sure that when he gets it right in my eyes it will be a great gig.

[youngnosh]

I don't know what to say to be honest

Maybe that's because I caught you with your pants down talking out of your arse.

maybe you're not allowing yourself to see anything negative because you've got a product to sell and you put on the gig.

Chief, dislike me, my label, my festival (which was organised by someone else), my character, my woman, my house, Hal and every fucking thing about me you can think of. But when you do have a go, make sure your whinging has less double standards next time. You know, to spare yourself from looking like a numpty again.

When I said I dodn't know what to say - what I really mean't was that I don't like dealing with unreasonable arseholes.
I "disliked" one aspect of "your" "festival" (festival??!?!) and it wasn't whinging - it was constructive criticism that wasn't exactly aimed at you anyway. Hal has already replied to what I said in a much more decent manner then you have.
Anyhow - if you want to surround yourself with yes men and get pissy at criticism then by all means - i'll shut my mouth and let you enjoy your fucking fairytale!

[DERBUNKERRECORDS]

To all concerned Re. my performance at the Unrest event on the 3rd of May...

My plan for that show was to present the LP that Martin had worked very hard on,and that I had worked very hard on.Therefore, I presented the images that are on the LP and similar sounds, mixed in a similar way.One 'layer' of a loop/sample, the rest recorded & looped live and faded up later and gradually bring everything in. So you see, technically it is very easy to mess this up.

This was in no way about 'stage presence' or such things, but presenting sound and images together.

I can do whatever I like onstage.Drink,fuck, sleep,it does not matter, either way there would be complaints I suppose.You were not supposed to be looking at me anyway, your job was to watch the images and listen, or was that too difficult? As I said before, I was presenting the LP.I would have looked a total idiot had I been in 'scrap metal caveman' mode and not had very good sounds to back it up.

As far as I am concerned, everything went to plan,perfectly.So, with respect YoungNosh, I did get it right.

Best,
HH

[GEWALTMONOPOL]

I don't know what to say to be honest

Maybe that's because I caught you with your pants down talking out of your arse.

maybe you're not allowing yourself to see anything negative because you've got a product to sell and you put on the gig.

Chief, dislike me, my label, my festival (which was organised by someone else), my character, my woman, my house, Hal and every fucking thing about me you can think of. But when you do have a go, make sure your whinging has less double standards next time. You know, to spare yourself from looking like a numpty again.

When I said I dodn't know what to say - what I really mean't was that I don't like dealing with unreasonable arseholes.
I "disliked" one aspect of "your" "festival" (festival??!?!) and it wasn't whinging - it was constructive criticism that wasn't exactly aimed at you anyway. Hal has already replied to what I said in a much more decent manner then you have.
Anyhow - if you want to surround yourself with yes men and get pissy at criticism then by all means - i'll shut my mouth and let you enjoy your fucking fairytale!

Sounds to me like you can dole out the criticism - however ill considered - but you handle the questioning of it less favourably. You're welcome to THAT fairytale.

Thanks and do come again.

[youngnosh]

To all concerned Re. my performance at the Unrest event on the 3rd of May...

My plan for that show was to present the LP that Martin had worked very hard on,and that I had worked very hard on.Therefore, I presented the images that are on the LP and similar sounds, mixed in a similar way.One 'layer' of a loop/sample, the rest recorded & looped live and faded up later and gradually bring everything in. So you see, technically it is very easy to mess this up.

This was in no way about 'stage presence' or such things, but presenting sound and images together.

I can do whatever I like onstage.Drink,fuck, sleep,it does not matter, either way there would be complaints I suppose.You were not supposed to be looking at me anyway, your job was to watch the images and listen, or was that too difficult? As I said before, I was presenting the LP.I would have looked a total idiot had I been in 'scrap metal caveman' mode and not had very good sounds to back it up.

As far as I am concerned, everything went to plan,perfectly.So, with respect YoungNosh, I did get it right.

Best,
HH

I never said it was about stage prescence at all.
With all due respect you could have walked onstage, pressed play and sat in the boozer down the road because you didn't seem to "play" much onstage...that was my criticism. I'm not expecting pantomime or theatrics but i'd expect that when I see someone live,it would involve playing MORE live.

EDIT
I think to add to this what may some up my feelings is that aside from VOMIR this is the least i've seen an artist "do" live...by miles.

[youngnosh]

I don't know what to say to be honest

Maybe that's because I caught you with your pants down talking out of your arse.

maybe you're not allowing yourself to see anything negative because you've got a product to sell and you put on the gig.

Chief, dislike me, my label, my festival (which was organised by someone else), my character, my woman, my house, Hal and every fucking thing about me you can think of. But when you do have a go, make sure your whinging has less double standards next time. You know, to spare yourself from looking like a numpty again.

When I said I dodn't know what to say - what I really mean't was that I don't like dealing with unreasonable arseholes.
I "disliked" one aspect of "your" "festival" (festival??!?!) and it wasn't whinging - it was constructive criticism that wasn't exactly aimed at you anyway. Hal has already replied to what I said in a much more decent manner then you have.
Anyhow - if you want to surround yourself with yes men and get pissy at criticism then by all means - i'll shut my mouth and let you enjoy your fucking fairytale!

Sounds to me like you can dole out the criticism - however ill considered - but you handle the questioning of it less favourably. You're welcome to THAT fairytale.

Thanks and do come again.

Critique of my criticism I can take - but when it's put in a childish way and you start name calling...can you blame me for reacting?
Look on the other forum - FAF disagreed with some aspects of what I said and I didn't have a go at him did I? (and that's because he put it well)


This is all off topic anyway.