Started by FreakAnimalFinland, March 14, 2013, 11:14:36 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 14, 2013, 08:41:46 PMLike, the above mentioned nazi revolution for capitalism to survive - you can take a look in Mein Kampf or other books on topic which conclude that marxism didn't really make any revolution, merely offer bastard son for capitalism. Meaning, the materialistic worldview. Certainly he could come with something better than that, I'm sure.I have not looked if any of his works have been translated into Finnish, but as far as english material goes, I'm more fascinated by the way he expresses himself, with all the body movements, rubbing his nose in ever 5 seconds, wiping his hair about ever 2nd time he rubs his nose, etc.. than to read the same in text. His way of pronouncing english is extremely easy to follow for me - even easier than properly spoken english.
Quote from: Vigilante Ecstasy on March 15, 2013, 02:03:20 AMZizek must have the itchiest nose ever.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on March 15, 2013, 12:10:48 AMHe does also say that the entire twentieth century's attempts at communism were nothing but a failure - many of the outmoded old-school left hate him for that. Of course he was also campaigning for the end of state socialism in Yugoslavia many years ago. The people I know personally who lived through the early 90s in the area are still traumatised, both Serbians and Bosnians. It was a fucking horrible situation for ordinary people or non-political artists caught up in that mess.If the ultra-radical revolution he claims to desire happened, of course he'd lose his fees from lectures and books, he'd lose his academic tenures, lose his sense of prestige and being a public figure. No wonder he says he wants people to think rather than act!
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on March 14, 2013, 06:47:22 PMI also enjoy some of Jacques Camatte's leftist theory although the English translations are sometimes difficult to follow and my French isn't very good.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 17, 2013, 08:36:33 PMI think it's not necessary to scare potentially interested people by saying that it would be fundamentally important to understand works /theories of Lacan, Marx or Hegel etc to get things out of Zizek.Maybe even the opposite? Of course it's useful to know terminology and the usual key ideas, that you don't always fall off the thought pattern if he mentions few basic philosophical concepts without elaborating it any further. But, I think one of his goals might be, to popularize and to explain these ideas with more understandable manner. To make their ideas make sense for.. ehm, common people?Hegel would be certainly very interesting topic of discussion, but I'm thinking "noise forum", hah, as good as it could be, is still very limited in possibilities what it could bring to discussion of ultimate key figures of western philosophy what should be probably things you've been taught at school... ? Or do they? I don't know how education works in different countries. In one hand, I have my doubts if german idealism would hit the schooling program in... for example usa.. before very special university level..? But certainly very much european, very much topic of old industrial. And if someone concludes they know absolutely nothing who is this Hegel character, I recommend to start with google..!