This release cannot be sold in the Discogs Marketplace

[FreakAnimalFinland]

I didn't find any band banned, but labels such as Toothless Yid Records (big surprise!?) appear to be banned. Yet to find any particular band, even if there is probably much more offensive (and even illegal) bands than any labels.

It's hard to say what kind of money flows through Discogs, but I'm sure they can make this type of actions what hardly effects negatively to their income. It is curious situation in industrial, though. Labels who have made all kinds of releases, could they be banned due one or handful of releases? Or does it need to be the "red line" within label? It makes more sense in case when labels sole purpose is to release & distribute questionable material.

F&V sells via their website, so this doesn't affect label itself. People who want to get the (new) releases, should just rely on old style of ordering things. Contact label or their distributors, pay with bank or cash.

However, it is kind of surprising that such amounts of "hatemusic" is generally accepted on discogs. I'm sure it is merely matter of time when it goes down. Similar to ebay being the biggest source of questionable WWII collectibles until they banned it all. "Hatemusic" appears in US ebay all the time, but german ebay is very strict. I think it's not such a big problem that noise releases are sold within noise mailorders and on classified sections of noise forums. Discogs is useful tool, but hardly absolute necessity.

[Niko]

He should wear it like a badge of honor, that F&V got banned earlier than the likes of Resistance Records and Rock-O-Rama Records.

[Tommy Carlsson]

Yeah, I noticed this when I was thinking of selling the few 7"s I have on Reb Rebel... verboten!

http://www.discogs.com/label/Reb%20Rebel

[Otomo_Hava]

This action is irrational and senseless.

Discogs' supposed to be a database for ALL kinds of music according ALL subjects of inspiration (ripping us off from its increased fees is way more acceptable as i see).

It's like someone make a law which no one should ever talk about human atrocities because some people are offended by mankind who lives with. How about banning reality, too?

[dmkerr]

I don't know if it is ridiculous or not.  They're a business and a resource, not an example or moral compass.  They're not only competing with the likes of eBay head-on, but they also face the same legal conflicts and potentials as eBay.  They want to be a flow-through third party, collect their fees, develop their apps and further their integration (a great tagging tool for Foobar, for example), build value, and all the while not end up on the hook for adolescent shit serious enough to get them flagged by governments and securities (PayPal).  It might be censorship, but it is also smart.

Agreed.  This may be a smart business move.  That doesn't make it much less offensive to folks who don't appreciate censorship, but when one has a business to run, protecting that enterprise is key.

[algiz]

I was always wondering when this day would come - I am afraid more will follow

[dmkerr]

Is the reason just that someone or a group of someones finds it offensive?  I'm not sure why people who are offended by things don't just avoid them.  You don't see me lobbying Wal-mart to stop selling Miley Cyrus CD's!!!

[Zeno Marx]

This action is irrational and senseless.

Discogs' supposed to be a database for ALL kinds of music according ALL subjects of inspiration (ripping us off from its increased fees is way more acceptable as i see).

It's like someone make a law which no one should ever talk about human atrocities because some people are offended by mankind who lives with. How about banning reality, too?

It's neither irrational, nor senseless.  Discogs has a growing presence throughout the music realm, and it has a growing share in the marketplace.  Many people, stores, and distros don't even sell on eBay any longer.  They use Discogs as their primary storefront.  I know if I decided to sell my collection tomorrow, next to message boards, I'd list on Discogs and not on eBay.  Don't fool yourself.  Discogs isn't an altruistic situation.  They're working their way into being a strong business.  The resource end will eventually be secondary (if it hasn't already happened).  They appear to be very business savvy.  I find it to be quite impressive, because I didn't recognize this aspect of Discogs for a long time.

[Zeno Marx]

I'm not familiar with Skrewdriver.  Do they have the imagery to make it easy for someone to draw attention?  If so, give it some time.  They'll likely get flagged.  With millions of entries on the site, they can't nail everything at once, and some stuff will slip through whatever process they have in place anyway.  Lots of gray area here.

And just to be clear, I'm not advocating any of this censorship.  It makes sense from business and growing public awareness perspectives.  That's all I'm saying.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

And possibility of whole site being flagged as not suitable for public computer, work computer etc. I know at some point none of my sites was possible to access if computer had ("parental") programs what would filter the content. Not sure if this is question now.

I doubt any labels who get banned, are in position to try gain sympathy by asking "equal treatment". It is however curious where line will be drawn. Skrewdriver records are not generally very offensive looking, but I guess if one can sell No Remorse CD's like "Barbeque in Rostock" very long, it would be weird.

But like said, I'm not at all against idea that noise would go back from discogs to mailorders, trades between fans, classified ads etc.

[acsenger]

And possibility of whole site being flagged as not suitable for public computer, work computer etc.

For a long time Discogs was blocked at my workplace (a company called Honeywell) but recently by accident I found out it's been allowed again. It was a weird decision to block it as it's not social media where I suppose it can be assumed a lot of people would spend their time instead of working (and Ebay has always been allowed). I wonder how long till they block it again sometime in the future.

[Gnivjek]

But like said, I'm not at all against idea that noise would go back from discogs to mailorders, trades between fans, classified ads etc.

Or perhaps an alternative database exclusively for noise.

[Otomo_Hava]

This action is irrational and senseless.

Discogs' supposed to be a database for ALL kinds of music according ALL subjects of inspiration (ripping us off from its increased fees is way more acceptable as i see).

It's like someone make a law which no one should ever talk about human atrocities because some people are offended by mankind who lives with. How about banning reality, too?

It's neither irrational, nor senseless.  Discogs has a growing presence throughout the music realm, and it has a growing share in the marketplace.  Many people, stores, and distros don't even sell on eBay any longer.  They use Discogs as their primary storefront.  I know if I decided to sell my collection tomorrow, next to message boards, I'd list on Discogs and not on eBay.  Don't fool yourself.  Discogs isn't an altruistic situation.  They're working their way into being a strong business.  The resource end will eventually be secondary (if it hasn't already happened).  They appear to be very business savvy.  I find it to be quite impressive, because I didn't recognize this aspect of Discogs for a long time.

Thanks for helping me.
Thought it was about adding material as an informative aspect and its boundaries.

[jc]

     In case you are not aware, Discogs changed their policy allowing the sale of all items well over a year ago as a result of Wade Michael Page. They sent out either an email, a message to your inbox, or posted it on a public forum of their's. I am positive that I read it the day it happened and it now seems that they are attempting to implement it. I tried googling it but I can't find it at the moment.

[HongKongGoolagong]

In case you are not aware, Discogs changed their policy allowing the sale of all items well over a year ago as a result of Wade Michael Page.

Yet that guy's bands are still allowed on sale at discogs.

It seems to be a decision based on notions of good taste rather than anything else. F&V and all the artists should congratulate themselves for successfully being so obnoxiously offensive that discogs remove their music before they remove the music of actual murderers!

Ultimately discogs can do whatever the hell they want with their business. Like when the Grey Wolves 'Catholic Priests Fuck Children' was removed from ebay many years ago, it's best to see the funny side of this.