GREY WOLVES appreciation thread

[P.i.L.-Lu]

Should we consider the pricing of a new GW 7" as a transgressive act? It surely seems to provoke some. If so, why is hurting your feelings of sound economy effective? Anyways, I have ordered a copy.

[impulse manslaughter]

I bought the black vinyl edition  because I'm not really a fan of picture discs. Not sure why it's so expensive but I'm really looking forward to listen to it. Also wanted to grab the Prurient/Linekraft split but the 2x7"+5" format didn't seem like something I'd pull out often to listen to.

[snakeradical]

Should we consider the pricing of a new GW 7" as a transgressive act? It surely seems to provoke some. If so, why is hurting your feelings of sound economy effective? Anyways, I have ordered a copy.

its FIREEE!

[Into_The_Void]

Should we consider the pricing of a new GW 7" as a transgressive act? It surely seems to provoke some. If so, why is hurting your feelings of sound economy effective? Anyways, I have ordered a copy.

It's not hurting nobody feelings, I think. This is a forum right? So one can comment.
Would it have been new, unreleased studio material, I have probably grabbed it as well, but for two tracks live no.

[re:evolution]

Should we consider the pricing of a new GW 7" as a transgressive act? It surely seems to provoke some. If so, why is hurting your feelings of sound economy effective? Anyways, I have ordered a copy.

It's not hurting nobody feelings, I think. This is a forum right? So one can comment.
Would it have been new, unreleased studio material, I have probably grabbed it as well, but for two tracks live no.

My understanding is these two tracks are studio cuts and not live recordings - noting 'Bodycount' was performed in Osaka, but the 7" was already being sold at that point. A friend said they spoke with Dave who confirmed it is studio material.

[P.i.L.-Lu]

I agree. One can always comment.

Still, the point is both good and bad music tend to cost the same as new releases.

To be able to grab a good/probably a good release (from a trustworthy name) for the same price as probably not so good is the norm.

The expected value of a good release in the future is on the rise as is its demand. A minus side is that good releases tend to sell out fast. But re-releases will often happen sooner or later.

All these aspects are quite the opposite what it comes to bad releases.

Should good releases cost more as new then? Or bad ones ought to cost less than they do now?

Of course there's "bad releases" from trustworthy names. Or useless ones to say the least. And this may well be the case with that new GW 7".

Still it is a release from a trustworthy name and purchasing it can be seen as a statement.
Such as showing one is "immune" to its pricing making (possibly indirect) transgressive message towards almighty economics which is meant to rule our minds.

Should we consider the pricing of a new GW 7" as a transgressive act? It surely seems to provoke some. If so, why is hurting your feelings of sound economy effective? Anyways, I have ordered a copy.

It's not hurting nobody feelings, I think. This is a forum right? So one can comment.
Would it have been new, unreleased studio material, I have probably grabbed it as well, but for two tracks live no.

re-releases will happen sooner or later. All this are quite the opposite with bad releases.

The minus side is that good releases tend to sell out fast.

To balance the norm good releases

Should we consider the pricing of a new GW 7" as a transgressive act? It surely seems to provoke some. If so, why is hurting your feelings of sound economy effective? Anyways, I have ordered a copy.

It's not hurting nobody feelings, I think. This is a forum right? So one can comment.
Would it have been new, unreleased studio material, I have probably grabbed it as well, but for two tracks live no.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

GREY WOLVES – "EXIT WOUNDS" – CD
Damn! Even if this is a compilation, and not even "best of", but sort of underlines how GW has the atmosphere, the feeling, that it doesn't have to have the best tracks known as their iconic live hits, but really that other stuff. Simple, often lo-fi industrial-noise, rawness, suffocating, alienating sound, just really good CD that I listened yesterday... 4 times. Basically didn't get to listen much else, that twice G.O. 7" comp CD and rest of the day spending with GW! Feel tempted to listen more today.
It would be curious to think is it somehow more personal history, that sets GW so so high position, and would the guy who now gets to hear it, wonder why he'd need to worship this crude hissing drum machine beat going on? hah.
Despite packaging is just two postcard type pieces and CD in plain paper sleeve between them, graphics are good and sharp! Cover states "CULTURAL TERRORISM ENDS HERE!" and despite all rumors about GW reissue things, could this be the end for reissues? Hope not..

[nusjut]

A fine sampler of old Wolves compilation tracks (earlier released on Mindscan Tapes, Sound of Hate series etc.). Again cheaply presented - the professional post-2000s way - in "just two [glossy] postcard type pieces and CD in plain paper sleeve between them", housed in some non-fitting transparent CD sleeve....with annoying TESCO track cuts/skips. To recommend!

[ritualabuser]

GREY WOLVES – "EXIT WOUNDS" – CD
Damn! Even if this is a compilation, and not even "best of", but sort of underlines how GW has the atmosphere, the feeling, that it doesn't have to have the best tracks known as their iconic live hits, but really that other stuff. Simple, often lo-fi industrial-noise, rawness, suffocating, alienating sound, just really good CD that I listened yesterday... 4 times. Basically didn't get to listen much else, that twice G.O. 7" comp CD and rest of the day spending with GW! Feel tempted to listen more today.
It would be curious to think is it somehow more personal history, that sets GW so so high position, and would the guy who now gets to hear it, wonder why he'd need to worship this crude hissing drum machine beat going on? hah.
Despite packaging is just two postcard type pieces and CD in plain paper sleeve between them, graphics are good and sharp! Cover states "CULTURAL TERRORISM ENDS HERE!" and despite all rumors about GW reissue things, could this be the end for reissues? Hope not..

Appreciate the fact that they really did seem to dig for some pretty obscure comps to source tracks from. But as the poster above said, I do wonder if the original comp tracks were extract pieces originally or they were cut for this CD release? Can definitely recognize a lot of similar sounds/sections from the pre-album period. In any case, nice to have a collection of early stuff for the car.

Would definitely appreciate some more CD reissues of the albums, especially "Age Of Dissent" and "Punishment", though my guess is that maybe people are a little wishy-washy about the content these days and that's holding it up.

[Cranial Blast]

GREY WOLVES – "EXIT WOUNDS" – CD
Damn! Even if this is a compilation, and not even "best of", but sort of underlines how GW has the atmosphere, the feeling, that it doesn't have to have the best tracks known as their iconic live hits, but really that other stuff. Simple, often lo-fi industrial-noise, rawness, suffocating, alienating sound, just really good CD that I listened yesterday... 4 times. Basically didn't get to listen much else, that twice G.O. 7" comp CD and rest of the day spending with GW! Feel tempted to listen more today.
It would be curious to think is it somehow more personal history, that sets GW so so high position, and would the guy who now gets to hear it, wonder why he'd need to worship this crude hissing drum machine beat going on? hah.
Despite packaging is just two postcard type pieces and CD in plain paper sleeve between them, graphics are good and sharp! Cover states "CULTURAL TERRORISM ENDS HERE!" and despite all rumors about GW reissue things, could this be the end for reissues? Hope not..

Appreciate the fact that they really did seem to dig for some pretty obscure comps to source tracks from. But as the poster above said, I do wonder if the original comp tracks were extract pieces originally or they were cut for this CD release? Can definitely recognize a lot of similar sounds/sections from the pre-album period. In any case, nice to have a collection of early stuff for the car.

Would definitely appreciate some more CD reissues of the albums, especially "Age Of Dissent" and "Punishment", though my guess is that maybe people are a little wishy-washy about the content these days and that's holding it up.

Age Of Dissent and Punishment on CD would be very nice! The CDr copies that I have now are getting near the end of the life span I think. Hopefully CD versions of those will happen one of these days!

[Earth O.D.]

"Exit Wounds" is for me an excellent reminder of the splendid variety of The Grey Wolves, already even in their crude tape era. I must say some of the more beat-driven industrial tracks took me by a (pleasant) surprise. Of course it would be cool to have more comprehensive reissues, but at this point I just grab what I can get.

Speaking of variety, one record that has particularly obsessed me right now is "Blood & Sand". This has been on a heavy rotation past weeks, such bleakly atmospheric brooding tension, just perfect to get fully immersed in and float along the ride. The second half is where it really gets going - I'm not as rhythm-oriented with my listening as I used to be, but when that JFK-style motorik beat kicks in - damn!!! Just adds to the epic kraut-y feel I get from this release.

[ritualabuser]

"Exit Wounds" is for me an excellent reminder of the splendid variety of The Grey Wolves, already even in their crude tape era. I must say some of the more beat-driven industrial tracks took me by a (pleasant) surprise. Of course it would be cool to have more comprehensive reissues, but at this point I just grab what I can get.

Speaking of variety, one record that has particularly obsessed me right now is "Blood & Sand". This has been on a heavy rotation past weeks, such bleakly atmospheric brooding tension, just perfect to get fully immersed in and float along the ride. The second half is where it really gets going - I'm not as rhythm-oriented with my listening as I used to be, but when that JFK-style motorik beat kicks in - damn!!! Just adds to the epic kraut-y feel I get from this release.

Would suggest that you get the recently reissued Shockcity/GW version if you don't have it, sounds much fuller than the old Cold Spring edit.

[Earth O.D.]

"Exit Wounds" is for me an excellent reminder of the splendid variety of The Grey Wolves, already even in their crude tape era. I must say some of the more beat-driven industrial tracks took me by a (pleasant) surprise. Of course it would be cool to have more comprehensive reissues, but at this point I just grab what I can get.

Speaking of variety, one record that has particularly obsessed me right now is "Blood & Sand". This has been on a heavy rotation past weeks, such bleakly atmospheric brooding tension, just perfect to get fully immersed in and float along the ride. The second half is where it really gets going - I'm not as rhythm-oriented with my listening as I used to be, but when that JFK-style motorik beat kicks in - damn!!! Just adds to the epic kraut-y feel I get from this release.

Would suggest that you get the recently reissued Shockcity/GW version if you don't have it, sounds much fuller than the old Cold Spring edit.

Yeah, the recent Old Europa Cafe version's exactly the one I got.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

I haven't done very nerdy evaluation of differences, but original is 1990 tape where both bands credited equally, Cold Spring release is 2002 release with GW doing remix of the source material and issued as Grey Wolves. This new Shockcity/GW supposedly "stereo mix" of the tape material. I didn't listen the reissue CD, but original tape vs Cold Spring reissue, I suppose CD was bassier version of two? I would assume the OEC reissue is good one as well.
I have not been too excited of new Shockcity stuff. He had some stuff at bandcamp for short moment before removing them.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

THE GREY WOLVES "BODYCOUNT JAPAN/DECONSTRUCTION HARA-KIRI"  7"
Bodycount original on Age of Dissent LP, Deconstruction original on Catholic Priests. Latter sounds like it would be mostly out-take of the beat-synth thing that can be barely heard on LP version, and this version missing all the noisier electronics that were on top of this. So could it be like the raw backing track of the song. Quite easygoing rhythmic song, but good! Bodycount song sample must be used in multiple GW tracks. Slowed down Jack Nicholson line from Shining movie "you had your whole fucking life to think things over!". Bodycount sounds very close to the version that came out on recent GW comp CD on Tesco. So in a way, this 7" is almost a novelty item, but... well, b-side alone makes it must to die hard GW fans!