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[ConcreteMascara]

'Big budget' porn film shot in London hospital

Page last updated at 10:14 GMT, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:14 UK

A "big budget" pornographic film was shot in a London hospital when it hired out one of its wards to a film company.

The movie generated "substantial income" for the hospital, Conservative MP Penny Mordaunt said.

Ms Mordaunt, Portsmouth North MP, was speaking during a House of Commons debate on improving transparency in government accounting, on Monday.

NHS Kensington and Chelsea said the filming occurred before 2002 when the primary care trust (PCT) formed.
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    It was a big-budget affair and generated substantial income for the hospital

Penny Mordaunt MP, Portsmouth North Watch the debate: From BBC Democracy Live

"When I was director of Kensington and Chelsea Council, I discovered that one of our local hospitals was hiring out one of its closed - but fully-equipped - wards to a film company to use as a film set," Ms Mordaunt said.

"To add insult to injury, the movie was a pornographic one.

"Although I cannot claim to have seen the final picture - as I understand, these things are no longer claimable on parliamentary expenses - it was a big-budget affair and generated substantial income for the hospital."

"But apart from cheering up a few of the in-patients, it cannot be said to be contributing to the objectives of the primary care trust."

NHS Kensington and Chelsea said: "We can confirm this incident occurred some time prior to 2002 under a predecessor organisation's management and prior to the formation of PCTs."

Kensington and Chelsea Council has been contacted by BBC London but have not yet commented on the story.

"But apart from cheering up a few of the in-patients, it cannot be said to be contributing to the objectives of the primary care trust."

I found that line to be particularly amusing.

[Nil By Mouth]

Nanny, 30, died from sexual arousal while watching pornography

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293165/Nanny-30-died-sexual-arousal-watching-pornography.html#ixzz0tBByo26k

[Andrew McIntosh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrHfuLC4H8&feature=player_embedded

[Hakaristi]

Interesting overview of the KP industry and the moral panic surrounding it from an "insider": http://tinyurl.com/qajwun

[FreakAnimalFinland]

It seems focus more on the modern times, which has always been much less interesting topic. Seems like reading computer technology book, which is pretty much the least thing what could interest, hah..
For example considering history of genre, by reading couple of books and online sites, in about 15 minutes you have much more accurate information. Magazines called Lolita were of course published everywhere, but I think they refer to perhaps longest running dutch publication of Joop Wilhelmus? Who was kind of crusader of free love, and didn't even bother to stop when laws changed. Same was the guys who operated blue movies shop in copenhagen, who pioneered as first guy to public CP magazine and documents show (by undercover reporters) that he still continued the trade well over the mid 80's when everybody else (like CCC) has given up due legal reasons.

There is pretty extensive, yet incomplete report available from old times, for example:
http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume4/j4_2_1.htm

IPT = The Institute for Psychological Therapies = private practice of clinical psychology, publish various articles in printmagazines and online. It seems much less scandalous and much more objective in their study of the case. They won't have propaganda FOR the case, but neither very hostile against it.

[Hakaristi]

I'm familiar with the history of the '70s & '80s, but haven't seen (or searched out) much documentation on the modern online trade, which was intriguing... although yeah, a bit too much tech talk for my liking also. Thanks for that IPT link though.

[RyanWreck]

There are quite a good number of full books on the subject, for free on the internet if you know what to look for, one can be found here:

http://www.unicef.org/magic/media/documents/beyond_all_tolerance.pdf


And if you have the money you can always purchase these (some nice little screenshots included):

http://www.gwmedical.com/books.php?pID=978-1-878060-85-3
http://www.gwmedical.com/books.php?pID=978-1-878060-60-0
http://www.gwmedical.com/books.php?pID=978-1-878060-47-1

Looking for terms on Freenet, Newsgroups and IRC such as "r@ygold" and "MCLT" used to lead places. They don't now, so there is no threat in sharing this information because it has been know since the late 90's and C#P purveyors use different master pass's now-a-days.

[RyanWreck]

As for me, the C#P scene doesn't intrigue me much anymore. I am far more interested in tracking down private videos and magazines, straight or gay doesn't matter. Material like Gay Scat and Piss classics "Dr. Bob's Reality" or the very limited, private torture flick "Squirming in the Bath-House". Or some straight Master & Slave stuff (anything with Mistress Ann) or even just Magazines that are limited, even xerox'd 2nd generation shit will work. Ever since hearing BU's latest offering I have been heavily seeking "Lily the Flesh", too. If anyone can help out PM me.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

I don't know what exactly would qualify as "private magazines" ? Majority seems like big company productions (relative speaking) even if it would be "amateur content"?
For s/m, there was plenty of european stuff which most often relied on contact classifieds & amateur photo contributions. Many countries had the private s/m clubs, who also operated some sort of magazine or newsletter.  In finland one should try to get for example 80's mag called "Chains" which basically later was slightly connected with Kinky Club magazine and in late 90's S/m salainen maailma or whatever it was called. Just 4 issues came out. Very rough quality b/w. Then Läjä Äijälä's rubber fetish/sm comic/art magazine "X" what ran for 5 issues. More mainstream bondage/rubber full color mag "Fetissi" did 4 issues. They ran very short lived shop for a while too. All these things probably fail most of all for lack of commercial potential. No market, no interest, no resources,... Unfortunate reality, which makes most companies to avoid print media and most of amateurs use internet as only means of exposure. What is the most recent XXX magazine that was pretty good? I can't remember much from recent years.

[tiny_tove]

In the 80's/90's we had a couple of impressive magazine (i Moderni, ecc), featuring most stuff ralised by the authors themselves and it seems thay are still active in the BDSM scene (not the fake fetish goth crap we are swamped by today).
I knew pretty well at least a couple of the persons involved (as models) and they always said the people behind the project were 100% into that and not just for the money.
Unfortunately I got rid of my collection some years ago before moving to UK, but there were plenty of very interesting writings, pretty distant from the consensual-safe shit of today that you can buy in many normal bookstore.

regarding this "Interesting overview of the KP industry and the moral panic surrounding it from an "insider": http://tinyurl.com/qajwun" the business part have very interesting figures and explains a lot of what happens behind the scene, very interesting read. The latest part regarding children sexual freedom and bla bla is the usual NAMBLA like crap.

[RyanWreck]

Thanks for some pointers. I have an OK collection right now but am always seeking more.

For s/m, there was plenty of european stuff which most often relied on contact classifieds & amateur photo contributions.

This is pretty much what I am looking for. Examples would be something like Taint's art on "Justmeat" or his split with Black Leather Jesus (i.e. contact classifieds like "Slave For Satan Ready"), etc. There are plenty of websites containing these things but I would prefer physical copies, printed material. Also, as I said before, I would be interested in obtaining copies of "Lily the Flesh" (the video of course) or pointers on where one found the contact info when buying it.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

In Finland, those were advertized in classifieds of regular mens magazines? Each mag used to have several pages of contacts & sale informations of people selling photos, used panties etc.
I think best things were things like used condoms with ejaculate and half liter of bottled piss available from some couples. One could specify if you want female or male piss. As if you'd know the difference?

Old 70's/80's mags still include ads from beast lovers etc.

I think Tehokontaktit is still active? This guy who runs primitive offset printplace and publishes the biggest sex contact only magazine in Finland. For example some issue of Degenerate and covers like Taint / Nicole 12 CD was printed there. Part of the deals were paid as photos submitted to him & imported porn videos etc. He had some good stories of nutcases who bombarded him with photos too brutal to publish. Decent male anal destruction. I have pile of original photos of one case.

[ARKHE]

Supposedly, there has been a ban on cartoons/graphic novels with content judged as kp in Sweden since 1980, only recently was a man charged & convicted for possession of it, in the shape of 51 manga jpegs on his computer. He was a collector.  The sentence was fines, so the punishment is not that hard, but still. Tht ban doesn't extend beyond fictions that aren't visual (if child nudity is part of the (arbitrary) artistic vision in a work of art, you are excused - cartoons are much farther down the culture hierarchy I guess), but I guess anyone who owns NICOLE 12 releases should beware, you never know what will happen.

Swedish articles:
http://www.dn.se/dnbok/mangaserier-klassade-som-barnporr-1.1141732
http://svt.se/2.128339/1.2095860/inte_forsta_manga-domen_for_barnpornografibrott

[tiny_tove]

 Bataille and Bukkake:
Symbolic Human Sacrifice in Japanese Pornography

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97158/Bataille-and-Bukkake-Symbolic-Human-Sacrifice-in-Japanese-Pornography

[tiny_tove]

Austrialian sordid story of KP and Voyeurism

A SHAMED B&B owner was yesterday unmasked as a vile Peeping Tom - after he secretly taped guests having SEX in their rooms.
Sleazy James Stratton used tiny pinhole cameras disguised as smoke detectors to film romps - then later watched hours of sordid action on a flatscreen TV in his SHED.
The former telly engineer, 67, of Perth, recorded so much X-rated footage at Rosebank Guest House, Perth, over four years, he hired a storage unit at an AIRPORT to stash it all - along with thousands of sickening child porn pictures and videos.

Guesthouse ... Rosebank, which Stratton no longer owns
Yesterday the married pervert admitted a string of vile charges at the town's sheriff court.
Last night one former resident at Rosebank - which is now under new ownership - said: "It is absolutely disgusting what he did.
"To think that he might have been recording me and my children when we stayed there is absolutely horrifying.
"He is a vile individual. I hope he gets locked up for a long time."
The court heard how twisted Stratton launched his sordid surveillance scam at the guest house in November 2005.
He bought state-of-the-art recording equipment including motion sensors which he placed inside the bogus safety devices so they could start recording residents as soon as they entered rooms.
Then when he and wife Muriel decided to rent out two rooms to lodgers at his family home in September 2008, he rigged up more cameras to watch their every move.
Stratton went on to record around a dozen lodgers in just a year.

Working behind the back of wife Muriel - who, the court was told, had no idea what her husband was up to - he fed cables through the attic and over a garage roof into the back garden of the property.
He then viewed the stash of recorded footage in his private shed - which was kitted out with a fridge freezer, a locked door and curtains across the window.
Stratton even admitted spying on two male lodgers as they had sex - and was so disgusted by the footage he then threw the unwitting pair out.
But in April last year he was finally snared when a female lodger became suspicious, the court was told.
Prosecutor Charmaine Cole said: "She became aware of noises in the attic and had a general feeling she was being watched."
The woman then called her electrician brother - who examined the detector only to discover a covert camera inside.

Family home ... he watched footage in his shed
The furious pair confronted Stratton - who initially denied any knowledge of the camera.
But when the police were called they discovered another device in the other lodger's room.
A third was also picked up in the hall - followed by a fourth hidden in the sitting room.
Miss Cole said: "The complainer has been traumatised. She feels totally violated and has been struggling to come to terms with this."
She told the court police then found "wiring from the cameras leading out of the house, through the garage and into a lockfast shed in the back garden".
She said: "A cursory search of the shed revealed a hard drive recording device, a camera switcher, and a large flatscreen TV.
"He was asked about the cameras and said each had movement detectors so they switched on when movement occurred.
"Initially they were all linked to separate video recorders in the attic.
"He agreed the cameras were installed without the permission or knowledge of the lodgers.
"But he stressed that his wife Muriel was unaware of the cameras or the video recorders."
She added: "In October 2008 he had two male lodgers staying in the house.
"He watched recordings of them engaged in homosexual activity and stated he had been disgusted by them and had thrown them out of the house.

Lock-up ... unit where he hoarded vile child pornography
"At that point he purchased a hard drive linking directly from the cameras in the bedroom via a cable into the shed.
"That's what was found by the police in April 2009.
"All of the cameras were connected to the hard drive recorder in the shed which allowed the activities of people in their rooms to be recorded and viewed later. A large number of disks and video cassettes were recovered.
"Footage showed lodgers in various states of undress and engaging in private sexual activities. Officers noticed some of the footage was not from within the address."
Police then turned to the storage unit Stratton kept at the airport - and discovered a 8,080 hardcore child porn images plus 622 child porn videos.
Many of those were at level five - the worst category of child porn - and were stored along with footage of people having sex in Stratton's properties.
Officers who watched countless hours of home video then discovered Stratton had also been secretly recording his guests.
Yesterday he pled guilty to a catalogue of offences.
They included, between 2005 and 2009, conducting himself in a disorderly manner, installing covert video cameras, recording devices and viewing monitors within bedrooms used by lodgers and other rooms and outbuildings.
He also admitted recording and monitoring the activities of female and male lodgers without their knowledge or consent, in various states of undress and engaged in private sexual acts, and breaching the peace.
Stratton admitted between November 2007 and April 2009 possessing 8,080 indecent images of children and 622 indecent films of children.
It also emerged that Stratton had a previous conviction for dealing hardcore porn from his former TV repair shop in Perth in 1995.
During that trial Sheriff John McInnes told him: "Only those who are grossly perverted, or become so, could watch these tapes without revulsion."
Yesterday Sheriff Michael Fletcher deferred sentence on Stratton for reports.
He was also placed on the sex offenders' register and was freed on bail.