Pornography Appreciation / Sexual curiousities / etc topic

Started by FreakAnimalFinland, December 13, 2009, 09:55:35 PM

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collapsedhole

#960
Quote from: RyanWreck on September 05, 2019, 06:23:30 PM
Sounds fun. Little stalking here and there can fill out boring week nights.

The animal crush world is fucking weird, asked many of them "why" and almost exclusively they answer with "i love animals" then generally something along the lines of "if I didn't love animals than it wouldn't feel good to hurt them", reminds me of pedophiles who say they love children. The guy who I was talking to for a few months privately would take requests from people on a forum, everything from inflating snakes until they literally pop to just shooting cats with a shotgun, but he mainly tortured rats. He said he quit because it kept him up at night and bothered him greatly even though he had made nearly 2 dozen videos up to that point.

interesting, that perspective on it hadn't occurred to me. saw kids in my youth do some violent things to animals, and participated in some regrettable actions myself, but strictly violent things never bothered me. i was specifically revolted by the idea that people were deriving sexual pleasure from it. beastiality never bothered me either, most of the animals seem into that shit. now that i ponder it deeper, i wonder why the "crash fetish" of people getting off to films of car accident victims never bothered me, nor orther violence against people for sexual pleasure.. i guess i just don't like humans as much.

Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on September 05, 2019, 06:41:56 PM
Probably for the best that collapsedhole didn't murder one of the great artists of our time.

i dunno, maybe... if you're going to make extreme art, gotta go all out though... entire genocide of a species would be much more respectable, and for whatever reason, less disturbing to me.

Bloated Slutbag

Quote from: collapsedhole on September 07, 2019, 02:30:16 PM
entire genocide of a species would be much more respectable, and for whatever reason, less disturbing to me.

Much easier I think to hate (and love, two sides of possibly identical coin) that which you (think you) know. But trust me. Squirry the Squirrel is one bad mother etc.
Someone weaker than you should beat you and brag
And take you for a drag

pentd

awfully quiet here so here's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJj9q-67ivA

plenty more interviews all over the place...

moozz

Amazing that this once so active topic has been silent for almost 2.5 years.

After moving back to Finland I have become more and more aware how rare sex shops and second hand book stores selling older magazines are nowadays. Brussels has Nuit de Chine which is a great store with lots of DVDs but also stacks and stacks of magazines and books of all sorts. I don't know if Helsinki for example has anything similar. To buy older sex mags one pretty much needs to go online so no more browsing before buying. Plus sex mags (like everything else) have become some sort of collector thing and magazines tend to be very expensive. The Brussels store had (and probably still has) Busen magazines for 10-15 EUR if I remember right but online the prices seem to be around 50 EUR or even more which is ridiculous. I still prefer printed media over online content or even movies but it is becoming an increasingly expensive hobby. Would anyone have any sources (online or even physical stores) for reasonably priced magazines from (mainly) the '90s? I'm looking for stuff like Busen, Voluptuous, Score, Busty Beauties, Club International, Swank, Men Only, Juggs, etc.

Kayandah

You can buy some of the old Paul Raymond publications like MenOnly, Mayfair and Club on ebay, usually as bundle packs and they aren't hugely overpriced

Kayandah

For anyone who was interested in Japanese AV the sad news is that r18.com is shutting down. This was the main avenue for non-Japanese to access AV. Many stories floating around about why but it seems to come down to payment providers making it more difficult to buy porn.

I had suspected some kind of backlash from the heyday of the nineties/naughties but was expecting more of a moral backlash not this slow economic strangulation

theotherjohn

#966
Does anyone here own any adult/erotic playing cards? I picked up this same set at a secondhand market some weeks ago for the low price of £2. I had never seen any of these in the wild before and it was a blind buy given the price (I couldn't really open it up and inspect the contents out in the public - I didn't even know if it was a complete set), but after opening the pack in a more private setting and going through the set of cards (which was indeed a complete set, with two particularly filthy 'Joker' cards), I'd evidently made a good entry point to this previously hidden world of porn (see the last photo in the auction listing!). Lucky me!

After that, a curious web search brought me to this website headed by collector Mark Rotenberg who has previously collaborated with the publisher Taschen on their erotic books in the past. He's seemingly the foremost authority when it comes to collecting this niche of adult material and he's authored a book called Stacked Decks: The Art and History of Erotic Playing Cards that gives historical context to this discreet and easily transportable method of distributing pornography around the world. Disappointingly though, the book itself opts for presenting the safer, more "cheesecake" decks that were produced in the past (no doubt due to printing/publishing/distribution limitations) and barely goes into the hardcore pornography era from the late 1960s onwards (if not earlier) - for that, the website is where you have to go if you want to see samples of the more bizarre/explicit decks that have been released. It's impressive to see what tastes were catered for and you can even buy spares of them from Mark for a fair mark up, though usually the more interesting ones have been sold out already. I guess erotic playing cards are still being made today, though probably more as limited edition art sets rather than as a cheap and disposable pocket pleasure. I could easily see myself seeking out more of these playing cards to collect if they were more affordable and easily available...

moozz

I have two sets of Busen-Extra playing cards from 2005 and 2007. Hardcore just like the contents of the Busen-Extra magazines and I am sure the pictures are all taken from the magazines as well. Not really ideal for playing (impossible to concentrate) and not ideal as pictures as the size is very small. But still nice little curiosity items I am not planning to get rid of.

theotherjohn

#968
Quote from: moozz on October 20, 2022, 12:43:18 PMWould anyone have any sources (online or even physical stores) for reasonably priced magazines from (mainly) the '90s? I'm looking for stuff like Busen, Voluptuous, Score, Busty Beauties, Club International, Swank, Men Only, Juggs, etc.

You could try Adult Magazine Collector here in the UK for some of those titles. There's a physical shop in Manchester which is suitably grubby to visit and not far from other shops specializing in second-hand (ahem) smut - it's the Soho of the North of England. They have a twitter account too that showcases new arrivals - I'm not sure I'd want to be involved in their 'Wankaround' challenge but their followers seem to be having fun with it.

I recently found out about the publisher Masala Noir that has released some intriguing zines/publications dealing in countercultural ephemera - alongside the hardcover Noise Graphics (1980-1990) book that collects a variety of release artworks from the post-industrial scene, there's also the 8-bit Porn Video Games zine, one focusing on Japanese BDSM Magazines and a more general Sex Magazines book. Don't own any of them and can't vouch for their overall quality (they seem to be just images with little to no writings to contextualise them) but they look like fun stocking fillers in the lead up to the holidays. I'm also guessing the images are mainly sourced from online archives; the Japanese BDSM magazines one was no doubt compiled from Mandarake's web shop, or the Tumblr page of their favourite customer Where Frost Reign....

Balor/SS1535

Quote from: theotherjohn on October 24, 2022, 05:17:46 PM
Quote from: moozz on October 20, 2022, 12:43:18 PMWould anyone have any sources (online or even physical stores) for reasonably priced magazines from (mainly) the '90s? I'm looking for stuff like Busen, Voluptuous, Score, Busty Beauties, Club International, Swank, Men Only, Juggs, etc.

You could try Adult Magazine Collector here in the UK for some of those titles. There's a physical shop in Manchester which is suitably grubby to visit and not far from other shops specializing in second-hand (ahem) smut - it's the Soho of the North of England. They have a twitter account too that showcases new arrivals - I'm not sure I'd want to be involved in their 'Wankaround' challenge but their followers seem to be having fun with it.

I recently found out about the publisher Masala Noir that has released some intriguing zines/publications dealing in countercultural ephemera - alongside the hardcover Noise Graphics (1980-1990) book that collects a variety of release artworks from the post-industrial scene, there's also the 8-bit Porn Video Games zine, one focusing on Japanese BDSM Magazines and a more general Sex Magazines book. Don't own any of them and can't vouch for their overall quality (they seem to be just images with little to no writings to contextualise them) but they look like fun stocking fillers in the lead up to the holidays. I'm also guessing the images are mainly sourced from online archives; the Japanese BDSM magazines one was no doubt compiled from Mandarake's web shop, or the Tumblr page of their favourite customer Where Frost Reign....

The book of noise covers looks really great.  I think I will have to pick up a copy sometime.

FreakAnimalFinland

"The Eunuch Maker" trial ongoing. That is quite interesting, don't remember reading similar things from UK since the infamous 90's s/m trials. Of course, now it has been vastly more brutal things made than in 90's cases. Perhaps sign of changed times is that now emphasis is less about it being gay subculture. That is almost unmentioned, ties to gender activism almost hidden. While in the 90's, I recall trials were really the hunt for odd sexual minorities?

I recall when MODCON book came out in 2002, they advertised that better order soon, since they have no idea if it is legal or not. Apparently, no problems emerged of it, and even 2nd print was made in print-on-demand service.

Original editor Shannon Laratt died already decade ago, and long before that there was some dispute of ownership of BME. Curiously site claims never had content removed, nor any legal action taken against it, only little pressure. While body modification ezine was for whatever little piercings or tattoos someone wanted to post and there was the restricted adult area with all the castration and amputees and whatever. Laratt appeared in lots of "regular" media and I guess the late 90's tattoo/piercing/body modification stuff was something you got exposed to in underground anyways, regardless if you were doing it. Just that same sources where you got other subcultural weird stuff, had this covered too. There is some controversies that german state went against bme due some of videos went viral at the time, among the youth. hah. Quite sure some will remember the low res "pain olympics" videos circulating just for the shocks. I don't know if they changed it over the years, but back when the "community" started, there was all these goth girls posting sweet nose piercing and tribal tattoo pics, and due being "content makers", they were granted free pass for heavy area too. I would guess that a lot of people who were not perhaps "meant to see" stuff that deranged, could access.

Book is still good document of early formation of the new "scene" that was different of how body modification had been before.

https://www.abebooks.com/ModCon-Secret-World-Extreme-Body-Modification/31316802935/bd

QuoteIn May of 1999 members of the heavy modification set made their way from around the world to attend an event that was to become infamous. They came from as far away as Japan and varied in age from eighteen to their early seventies. No matter how far they travelled or what age they were this would be the first time for most to be surrounded by this many people with a shared interest - extreme body modification. Practitioners and participants who have dedicated their bodies and lives to fields such as tattooing, branding, implants, subincision, amputation, castration, scarification, nullification... this event was only for the serious and as such it was invite only. It goes without saying, none of those invites were too media. "ModCon: The Secret World of Extreme Body Modification" is the first peak for most into this most secretive of worlds. It is the culmination of three ModCon events held over a three-year period and documented by its organizer, Shannon Larratt. A life long contributor to the community and publisher of BMEzine.com, Shannon is the world's foremost authority on the subject of extreme body modification. As well as containing comprehensive and informative information on the subject, "ModCon: The Secret World of Extreme Body Modification" also contains stunning images by photographer Phillip Barbosa whose contributions to the community include a complete visual documentation of every ModCon event as well as helping organize the I Was Cured suspension group in Toronto, Canada.
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theotherjohn

PDF copies of ModCon and Shannon Laratt's later book 'Meet Tommy' are available on the zentastic website:

https://zentastic.me/blog/modcon/index.html
https://zentastic.me/blog/meet-tommy/

theotherjohn

#972
This is easily the best book discovery I've had in years: Rain Time: An Experiment In Depth, published by Augenblick Press.



'Rain Time' is an exhibition based on a large collection of photographs found at a flea market in London documenting the self-portraiture of one woman's penchant for deep-sea submersion via the burgeoning world of rubber fetishism. The work embodies the spirit of the home hobbyist, willing to give her life to science in the 'experimental diving tank' otherwise understood as the stand-alone bath tub.

Made between the late 1950s and early 1960s, the collection pre-dates the controversial (for post war conservative Britain) Atom-Age publications as well as Helen Henley's Enter with Trumpets, which scandalised a British Public unwilling to let go of its tired conservatism and dusty pearls.

The collage works in the collection precede by at least 15 years what would become the cut n' paste aesthetic of punk, devising and framing new identities culled from images in the daily papers, on the spectrum from Sophia Loren to Mrs Mills.

'Rain Time' reveals a hitherto unseen world of exploratory erotic investigation taking place for personal satisfaction behind the net curtains of suburban Britain. It is so called for the catalogue of rubber wear accompanying the archive, one subsequently employed by Vivienne Westwood for her revolutionary Kings Road 'Sex' shop a decade later.

Hardback Book containing over 300 photographs on 228 pages.


A second edition of this was recently released in an edition of only 100 copies (the first edition was 150 copies) which is still available here for £50 plus shipping: https://augenblickpress.bigcartel.com/product/rain-time-2nd-edition

Some more info about this discovery with select photos can be found at this link: https://www.anothermag.com/art-photography/14502/rain-time-rubber-fetish-horse-hospital-augenblick-press

I'm honestly amazed that this book is still under the radar for now... if you have any sort of interest in early rubber fetish history, perverse outsider art or home-developed photography then this book is a MANDATORY purchase! Get it now before it becomes collectible and sought after like the Dressing for Pleasure book by Jonny Trunk.

P.S. If anyone has the white cover first edition of Rain Time for sale, contact me!

cantle


tiny_tove

Quote from: theotherjohn on October 26, 2023, 01:52:46 PMThis is easily the best book discovery I've had in years: Rain Time: An Experiment In Depth, published by Augenblick Press.



'Rain Time' is an exhibition based on a large collection of photographs found at a flea market in London documenting the self-portraiture of one woman's penchant for deep-sea submersion via the burgeoning world of rubber fetishism. The work embodies the spirit of the home hobbyist, willing to give her life to science in the 'experimental diving tank' otherwise understood as the stand-alone bath tub.

Made between the late 1950s and early 1960s, the collection pre-dates the controversial (for post war conservative Britain) Atom-Age publications as well as Helen Henley's Enter with Trumpets, which scandalised a British Public unwilling to let go of its tired conservatism and dusty pearls.

The collage works in the collection precede by at least 15 years what would become the cut n' paste aesthetic of punk, devising and framing new identities culled from images in the daily papers, on the spectrum from Sophia Loren to Mrs Mills.

'Rain Time' reveals a hitherto unseen world of exploratory erotic investigation taking place for personal satisfaction behind the net curtains of suburban Britain. It is so called for the catalogue of rubber wear accompanying the archive, one subsequently employed by Vivienne Westwood for her revolutionary Kings Road 'Sex' shop a decade later.

Hardback Book containing over 300 photographs on 228 pages.


A second edition of this was recently released in an edition of only 100 copies (the first edition was 150 copies) which is still available here for £50 plus shipping: https://augenblickpress.bigcartel.com/product/rain-time-2nd-edition

Some more info about this discovery with select photos can be found at this link: https://www.anothermag.com/art-photography/14502/rain-time-rubber-fetish-horse-hospital-augenblick-press

I'm honestly amazed that this book is still under the radar for now... if you have any sort of interest in early rubber fetish history, perverse outsider art or home-developed photography then this book is a MANDATORY purchase! Get it now before it becomes collectible and sought after like the Dressing for Pleasure book by Jonny Trunk.

P.S. If anyone has the white cover first edition of Rain Time for sale, contact me!


this goes in the "atomage" territory I appreciate the most, where fetish and bizarre is defined by a distortion of daily normal life. many thanks for this, I'll order it somehow
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