can only speak for the original drumbrute but it's a real horse, you can get lost in that thing easy. if you do PE you might find its applications limited but what it does it does really well. for techno and shit i cant really say, yeah the snare sound is a bit shit but that doesn't matter to me. lots of playability (multiple hits on one step, the loop roller, dedicated sequencer row, filter, randomizer, etc.) to give life to patterns
