Cold Meat Industry releases that still hold up?

[Fluid Fetish]

Aghast album is a timeless classic, all old BDN is incredible, Raison, old Mortiis, some MZ412, old Puissance, Archon Satani, Deutsch Nepal- this is how I got into ambient/noise music to begin with in the 90's. I can still remember hearing Let Us Lead right after it came out, how orchestral but beautifully militant the atmosphere was, plus the booklet full of concentration camp pictures, weapons, diatribes about how evil will always conquer good....cliche traits for most people now but made a STRONG impression on me as a youth. These records are not only nostalgic but I think have held up damn well over time, although some more then others.

Also someone mentioned Burning the Temple of God, what an awful album. I like MZ 412, but this album does not hold up well at all. I put it in a few months ago and couldn't even get half way through it, just boring and really cheesy, the incredibly stupid sample of the reverse exorcism in the first song pretty much sums it up haha "Jeswus Chwist, get outta my Whife!", and this is coming from someone who usually loves over the top approaches, bad taste, and cheesyness. I immediately threw it in my 'to sell' pile and will not miss it...

[F_c_O]

So youre saying that album wasnt represntative of mz.412? I must admit, I chose it based on the burning church cover artwork, haha. What would you recommend instead?

[burdizzo]

Nordik Battle Signs is their most memorable for me.
Actually, I don't think the CMI catalogue is at all redundant. As others have said, there's always BDN, Mz.412, and Deutsch Nepal - and while I have seriously gone off the latter, his works up to and including Comprendido... Time Stop... still stand up very well. Oh, another obscure little project they had was Nod - nothing remarkable, but they did have a couple of really good tracks on their Three Little Pigs CD that I still enjoy.

[ANDROPHILIA]

https://www.discogs.com/Nod-The-Story-Of-The-Three-Little-Pigs-And-The-Big-Bad-Wolf/release/144744

lovely experiment

[ANDROPHILIA]

MZ412 " In nomine dei nostri...."
the darkest album i think

[Fluid Fetish]

So youre saying that album wasnt represntative of mz.412? I must admit, I chose it based on the burning church cover artwork, haha. What would you recommend instead?

The album is like a weird mishmash of styles and approaches that aren't really interesting, go on for too long, or are just too incoherent ultimately, but for some reason this approach appealed to me years ago and now, with this album at least, it does not. Burning Church artwork is the same cover as the Lords of Chaos book amusingly enough. Somehow very fitting..

I'd say it isn't representative of their style really, the already suggested In Nomine Dei Nostri is EXCELLENT in my opinion and holds a very interesting and a somewhat ritualistic feel. Nordik Battle Signs is also really good, Algiz- The Convergance of Life and Death is possibly my favorite MZ 412 song and is very powerful for me as this rune is also very significant to me personally.

Or you could just listen to old Emit, whichto me is easily the best 'black noise' (or whatever kids are calling it these days) since Abruptum. Easily.

[Andrew McIntosh]

I really wish they would've included tribal drumming more often, like on In Nomine.  They dropped the ball by not doing so.  I don't think they're dark ambient/quasi-PE holds up very well because it lacks that layer.  Not to say it isn't decent atmospheric music, but I also don't feel it tends to stand out.

Around the time I got the "In Nomine..." album I also got Archon Satani's "The Righteous Way To Completion" on Cold Spring and was impressed with the use of percussion on that. It can work really well. But ultimately MZ have always had pretty mixed output. "In Nomine..." is a great album of well created and recorded individual tracks which is what they usually do but "Domine..." is a wider-spread album, more conceptual.

I'd also agree that "Burning The Temple..." could have been a lot better, but mainly for their overt Black Metal pastiches. Those bits just don't work. The opening sample didn't sound cheesy to me, just a bit cliched. The line between appropriate and cheesy when one chances Black Metal imagery is very thin and often crossed (I recall an interview in one of those CM catalogues in which they said they "had not discovered the treasure of Satan" until after they formed. That bit made me groan). All up, though, it's still an album I like and return to. MZ 412 at that time were great and I picked up on them around the mid-90's at just the right time I suppose.

[murderous_vision]

I feel that 90% of the discography is still essential for me.

[F_c_O]

I've been checking some mz.412 for now and I am surprised how much I like this. Burning The Temple of God certainly gave me the wrong idea about the project. I must say that at the moment my favourite moment is the fact that the live version of Kreuzigung from the re-release of Macht Durch Stimme starts with Supertramp's Breakfast in America and a radio bit. I have no idea if thats intentional or not but to me it works really well, actually.

[Bloated Slutbag]

I feel that 90% of the discography is still essential for me.

Of those un or only partially mentioned I will add the Soundsource offerings of Archon Satani and Inanna. These are in part I felt (feel) a kind of continuance of / sister to the Nekrophile catalog (among uncounted others in and around the period). Rough raw rude crude ritual dirgehell dungeontronics, or something. Throw in some half dead ganja music and you are there.

[Yrjö-Koskinen]

Burning The Temple of God certainly gave me the wrong idea about the project.

I wanted to say something about that, too. "Burning..." is in fact somewhat better if you view it as a failed/strange black metal project in the vein of Puritas Virginum (which is way better, though, but also has this inconsistent, nonsensical approach to music). That only works if you're into failed/strange black metal, though.

[moozz]

The ones I still return to are

In Slaughter Natives - Enter Now The World
Raison d'Etre - Prospectus
Raison d'Etre - Within The Depth Of Silence And Phormations
Morthound - Spindrift
Brighter Death Now - everything
Deutsch Nepal - everything

[FreakAnimalFinland]

I think anything that is noisy, holds up well, I think.

Projekt Hat, BDN, the mentioned MZ.412 Nordik battle sign (the most pure and cold industrial one), Archon Satani,....   Also recent re-visits to early Deutsch Nepal, his works before sung vocals, still working great. Not to mention 2 first Ordo Equilibrio. Especially the debut, which has clear form, but not yet routine template.

[yosef666]

I would say a LOT of CMI holds up for me... all Brighter Death Now of course, IRM, Proiekt Hat, Mz.412, In Slaughter Natives, Deutsch Nepal, Institut, Iron Justice. Lots of real classics.

In related news, this tribute LP, in the works for several years, finally has a release date announced:



Tracklist:
- Sinistrous Diabolus - Sacrifice (Aghast)
- Spire - Death, Just Only Death... (In Slaughter Natives)
- Temple Nightside - Winds of a Lost Soul (Arcana)
- Grave Upheaval - Necrose Evangelicum (Brighter Death Now)
- Antediluvian - Sephiroth (Raison d'être)
- Vassafor - Infernal Afairs II Doom Legion Ultra (MZ.412)

[totalabuse]

comp seems insane! how can metal bands pull it off?? i will buy