Good records released by total dickheads - to buy or not to buy?

Started by Marko-V, December 11, 2016, 08:55:22 PM

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tiny_tove

Quote from: Theodore on December 14, 2016, 12:40:00 AM
The only thing that would stop me to buy something i like is if i was ripped off by the guy. Even then i would probably buy it but not directly for sure.

Also, i cannot connect with left / anarcho lyrics, i find them offensive haha, but not the usual way. Man, most of them are so silly / naive that if i spend just a little time listening to them my intelligence feels offended. I start to feel stupid cause i am listening these stupidities. When i was 15-16, they were OK, cool. Now ? I just can't. So even if their music is good, lyrics destroy it for me.

anything that is "let's save the world/holy cows" annoys me to my bollocks. even when I agree on the subject (which still happens from time to time).

but I appreciate the output of many of these idealists.
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burdizzo

At the end of the day, if the work is good enough to get, then swallow hard and get it. It's hard to imagine that even great 'artists' don't have their faults, and it's hard to be wonderful ALL the time. Many years ago I was (I reckoned) ripped off by a well-known 'big' label in the scene, and I sulked w/ them for many years, not buying any of the releases, etc. Totally futile - I missed a lot of good stuff, and eventually went back w/ my tail between my legs.
Of course, it's easier to be 'principled' when the stuff is borderline.

4CRSAC

Just being really fucking stupid will usually do it for me, with exceptions for dumb folks that manage to still be likable.

Edit: Also, being a whiny thin-skinned piss baby that pitches a fit over something like a negative live review (it's noise, or underground metal, how the hell do you expect/feel entitled to have everyone like it?) has definitely soured me on at least one artist.

Ashmonger

There's little that does turn me off when I like the music, however, there of course are certain things I hold absolutely no interest in or think are plain wrong, such as the Red and Anarchist Black Metal thing, Christian Black/Death Metal... Depends a bit on genre. I don't mind PE/Noise/Industrial with left wing ideas, I think these genres give more place to various topics.
Aside from that, I expect that there will be freaks, assholes etc in extreme music genres, so I'm not easily put off by such things. I've been ripped off by a label, still buy the records of his band,  because I like the over the top extremity of the band, but this stuff has now been released by other labels. Of course I don't feel like dealing directly with him now (not that that's even possible at the moment anyway).

noyearning

Apparently when talking about dickheads inevitably discussion of political sides will come up? Dickheads exist in all political spectrums (because, y'know, humans...) and discussing about buying or not releases by someone who doesn't share your views could be a whole new thread, and it's an interesting topic, I think. On this matter I can say that I generally avoid supporting records with overly preachy political content (despite liking Crass, for example) but it's more a matter of "case by case" than a rule. But I guess I can say the same for purely dickhead cases, that it's a matter of "case by case". Just to give more examples, if I'm sure the person is (like, if they have stated it clearly in interviews, or if other people have shown proof of it) a rip-off, homophobic, racist, then it's a "no deal". Also, analyzing the artist's output (if it reflects their own opinions) is also an entire different discussion.