Seen and not seen's, recommendations and queries on top films in general.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

Was it the movie where the last fatso was being fed with the fat of the previous girls? Or maybe more movies on topic? I recall it was ok, but very much of "trendy" film at the time. You know, some underground phenomena gets public and everybody wants to aknowledge it. That movie, with pretty morbid and (dis)tasteful way.

[P-K]

Was it the movie where the last fatso was being fed with the fat of the previous girls?

is'nt really clear in the movie, but her 'food' gets mixes with bags of pure fat.....what kind? ;-)

was a pretty decent movie imho....

[FreakAnimalFinland]

Have had GUMMO dvd borrowed from friend for months. Finally watched it, but nothing really prepared me to what was coming. I had erased all recollections what it should be about. But it is pretty good 1997 film. From writer of KIDS, first movie he made. Not so much of linear storyline, but just incident and obscure and obscene situations one after another. Total redneck US white trash, cat killings, cat torture, pimping down syndrome sister to young glue huffing boys to fuck. Molesters, dwarvers, fags, trannies, inbred redneck kids. Fights, handicaps. Near surreal moments of kids engaging into verbal abuses. Nudity. Tits. Spit and drool. No wonder when you mix it all together with Eyehategod, Burzum, Bathory, Spazz, Absu, and various others that he made instant underground classic. I'm pretty sure it's been topic of discussion everywhere, but I totally missed it all these years.

[tiny_tove]

Was it the movie where the last fatso was being fed with the fat of the previous girls? Or maybe more movies on topic? I recall it was ok, but very much of "trendy" film at the time. You know, some underground phenomena gets public and everybody wants to aknowledge it. That movie, with pretty morbid and (dis)tasteful way.

yes that one.
there are some nonsense scenes, but the whole philosophy behind it is perfectly rended.

anyway GUMMO is THE movie that got me into white trash/trailer park obsession... you mentioned it all, but a few images that reallz got under my skin:
- the rabbit boy with the accordion
- the teen transvestite pictures
- the cute mongoloid prostitute whored out by her (I think) brother
- Harmony Korine hugging the black homo midget wearing the Israeli flag
- the protagonist eating spaghetti in the dirty bath thub
- him and his mom dancing in the room full of trash
- the drunken rednecks getting angry with a chair...

every scene is cult

[ConcreteMascara]

I watched half of it several years ago but never finished. I remember liking it but I was too fucked up at the time to pay attention. I'll have to rewatch it.

[bitewerksMTB]

Kichiku Dai Enkai

BANQUET OF THE BEASTS: It's on US dvd & is well-worth picking up. Prob out of print as I can't think of anything recent the company released. Artsmagic was the company.

Nihilistic & Brutal. Chapter titles sound like PE songs: "Blood games", "Alone", "In the morning", "In Control"...

I barely remember FEED. Seems like it started out good but the ending was a letdown.

[P-K]

No wonder when you mix it all together with Eyehategod, Burzum, Bathory, Spazz, Absu, and various others that he made instant underground classic.

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Gummo/release/835238

weird, i was pretty shure i heard Innerwar-era BDN in that movie....

edit : ah, found it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119237/soundtrack

[FreakAnimalFinland]

It is pretty minimal part. It starts with some visuals going in front your eyes, suddenly year hear the speech, which is very familiar. It's like "wait? Someone used this on noise cd??" and then you hear actual BDN sound coming in, but fades out almost immediately. Just enough to realize what it was, but can't really say there would be much to hear.

[GEWALTMONOPOL]

Just watched for the second time:

JOE

Two middleaged men, Joe Curran (Peter Boyle) and Bill Compton (Dennis Patrick) hit 1960's Greenwich Village where they do drugs, fuck and eventually kill hipppies. A very young (and in the buff) Susan Sarandon appears as Bill's runaway hippie daughter. Lots of good sample material and a great idea in general. I'd like to see a remake set in modern times about two ageing neofolk musicians who've finally had enough and exact deadly revenge on random antifa fags. A worthy and relevant concept for the intolerant times we live in.

There is an amazing scene where Joe fondles his machine gun in his basement with an HONOR AMERICA sticker in the background. I desperately tried to rip it from the DVD but for some reason VLC wouldn't have it so the pictures below will have to do. They should give you an idea anyway.

[Tommy Carlsson]

JOE -- excellent movie! I love that scene in the beginning where Joe's standing by a jukebox looking at the songs, complaining about "nigger-loving hippies" destroying the music.

(for Swedes -- den svenska titeln är ett underbart exempel på när översättningen är bätre än originalet -- Joe - Skjut varenda jävla hippie!)

[FreakAnimalFinland]

What would be nice re-make, is FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE. I'm sure movie was discussed elsewhere?
Film I tend to return time after time is LEON. It blew my mind when I got the actual directors cut. It is sometimes beyoned my brain to think how directors aren't allowed to make movies they want, but they are butchered to fit some assumed audience expectations. Few months ago, was re-watching who knows for how many times Once Upon A Time in America, and watched the dvd bonuses and was amazed that when movie originally hit the theaters in US, it was cut by director of Police Academy to be more "straight forward" with chronological order. Which obviously makes no sense in case of that movie. And only years later it was presented as it should.

[GEWALTMONOPOL]

Then again you have movies like Apocalypse Now Redux which didn't benefit from the added scenes at all. In the case of megalomaniacs like Coppola a firm external hand very likely improves the finished article.

[Ritual]

Then again you have movies like Apocalypse Now Redux which didn't benefit from the added scenes at all.

I think it does! It gives a few more angles to the story, I think.

[ConcreteMascara]

Editing is tricky business. I agree that Apocalypse Now did not benefit from editing but, for example, The Final Cut of Blade Runner I think was vastly improved by additional scenes. Sometimes extra scenes can be self-indulgent or disrupt the pacing of the film. I guess it just depends on the film.

[narcolepsia]

"joe" sounds like something I´d enjoy. thanks for the recommendation !

currently been re-watching my cinema abattoir DVD´s..being compilations of shorts it´s always a matter of hit or miss, but there are god surprises to be found.

personal favourites probably include "burn" and "les souffrances d´un oeuf meurtri" on the incarnation DVD, "ass" on the erotisme DVD, yet most of the stuff is well worth watching,

most recent volume à rebour has two obvious highlights, as I was trying to watch a aryan kaganof film for quite some time * (included is "dead man 2 : return of the dead man" with a merzbow soundtrack) and also the first (to my knowledge) official edition of "satan bouche un coin". "passage" and "the other american dream" are others I quite enjoyed watching as well.

any others who´ve been enjoying these releases / label ?



* anyone has a copy of "beyond ultra violence" ? is it any good ?