is CD-r still an "acceptable" format?

[CannibalRitual]

But then, and here's the crucial part: I would give away ALL my copies for FREE..... with a kind request that they give them away to regular customers buying large orders from them.

Sounds like a good plan.

[CannibalRitual]

Funny is people putting out CD-Rs but list them up as CD on discogs:

https://www.discogs.com/label/1790418-Nailed-Physicals

[Bloated Slutbag]

When going to press this Knurl CD the plant just assumed I wanted CD-R and when I noticed it on the invoice at the last minute they switched to "real" CD... and it was cheaper?

What was the volume? I'd guess once the glass masters are made the process would be quicker and cheaper raw materials.

That makes sense, but in that case... why assume & quote CD-R in the first place?

They wanted you to scream & writhe a bit.

[ConcreteMascara]

Funny is people putting out CD-Rs but list them up as CD on discogs:

https://www.discogs.com/label/1790418-Nailed-Physicals

I've seen this happen with some electronic music labels. Tech Itch Recordings comes to mind. 10£ for a CDr labeled as a CD with flimsy paper packaging. Pretty lousy business practices which has put me off of buying from a label which I've loved since I was 14. But I just can't support that type of bullshit.

[JLIAT]

When going to press this Knurl CD the plant just assumed I wanted CD-R and when I noticed it on the invoice at the last minute they switched to "real" CD... and it was cheaper?

What was the volume? I'd guess once the glass masters are made the process would be quicker and cheaper raw materials.

That makes sense, but in that case... why assume & quote CD-R in the first place?

They wanted you to scream & writhe a bit.

Maybe, or some sales person not knowing that larger runs of CDr are uneconomic and once the order reached the technical guys knew this .... seems after about 400 copies CDr is not the best option...

[FreakAnimalFinland]

hah.. I guess that is old news. I'd say that after 50, or 100, CDR is not the economical option!
Advantage of CDR is most of all for making edition of 1-20. If you're thinking to sell 50 physical items, you may as well press proper CD.

[W.K.]

Funny is people putting out CD-Rs but list them up as CD on discogs:

https://www.discogs.com/label/1790418-Nailed-Physicals

I've seen this happen with some electronic music labels. Tech Itch Recordings comes to mind. 10£ for a CDr labeled as a CD with flimsy paper packaging. Pretty lousy business practices which has put me off of buying from a label which I've loved since I was 14. But I just can't support that type of bullshit.

Remembers me of this project playing here, all from the US, so was excited to grab a few items after the show not having to pay for ridiculous shipping. Turns out that the €10 CD was only a cheap CDR with the artist name written down with a sharpy. I get that you want to make some extra money for your tour, or that it is easier to burn a few disks for a show rather than having to transport them all the time, but c'mon, don't disrespect your fans like that. Don't think I ever bought anything from him again after that, even if I like the music. Still feels sour somehow, however that's a bit ridiculous after all this time.

I think theotherjohn make a good case why a CDR is still viable, but honestly, I don't care much for it. If you give me a quality print of your artwork I'm fine with a digital download.

[Soloman Tump]

I've made a few 3" CDRs of my EPs because in the spirit of DIY I can do it all from my house and I'm looking at small quantities.

I would get them pro printed and pressed if I ever get to needing higher quantities.

[Mikerdeath]

I'm just gonna say: Thanks to those open minded people in a supposedly open minded genre.
It honestly doesn't matter what format as much as the context of the release, ect.
Sound quality is better than cassette.

[burdizzo]

Yes, I've never quite understood the fetish for tapes, even though I was reared on them. I will buy them where there's no alternative, but still...

[JLIAT]

Yes, I've never quite understood the fetish for tapes, even though I was reared on them. I will buy them where there's no alternative, but still...

"The medium is the message" is a phrase coined by the Canadian communication thinker Marshall McLuhan and introduced in his Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man, published in 1964.[1][2] McLuhan proposes that a communication medium itself, not the messages it carries, should be the primary focus of study. He showed that artifacts as media affect any society by their characteristics, or content.[3]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_medium_is_the_message

[JLIAT]

You know nothing of my work!

Boy if life were only like this....

[Bloated Slutbag]

"The medium is the message"

With the format option now in fact an option that would seem more true than ever.

[JLIAT]

Stupid question then but-

digital = too perfect?

In a way yes, and so "unreal"... here is an example - links to the packaging thread BTW, by an Artist who collects White Albums...
not only does each Vinyl have music but a unique history of its being played and handled...

http://rutherfordchang.com/white.html   If you scroll down you can hear a montage of 100 white albums, (Eventually becomes NOISE) and a digital version would be pretty much no different to a single CD.


Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Sitting_in_a_Room

& visual 'version' Ian Burn Xerox Book -

Also all digital CDs are effectively just very big numbers, and there is therefore a fixed set of any digital media whereas analogue might be infinite?

(An audio CD stores music by patterns of bits. Each audio sample is 16 Bits, and each second of sound has 44100 samples... Multiply 16 by 44100, by 2 by 60 by 74 and we get 6265728000. That is the total number of bits that can be stored on a normal CD or CDR. If you convert this to bytes, you get around 740 megabytes, which is about right, 740 megabytes is the storage capacity of CDs and CDRs. Given that each bit in this totality can be different this gives us 2 to the power 6265728000 possible CDs, and no more, in this format.

http://www.jliat.com/APCDS/index.html)

[CannibalRitual]

And it's a weird thing that for me digital formats tend to sound worse...

Even more weird is that YouTube is the preferred listening format for so many!