Neofolk

[PSYWARRIOR84]

Not sure how many noticed yet VON THRONSTAHL new material? Very much in the neofolk realm. Track translates something like "In the reverse of turning time", and track includes pretty lengthy manifest related to Ukraina situation. It may be curious, people tend to have quite different views on what is going on there. I am not surprised that in germany, people are critical against USA imperialist moves and see themselves in middle of russian/usa conflict, rather than something precisely about Ukraine or their own native lands. In Finland, due historical reasons, question is pretty simple.


However, it what he is talking about in the "manifest", seeing how odd it is to see how rebellious underground movements these days line-up in support, endorsement for some particular side (I suppose you can pick any. Palestine/Israel, Ukraine, covid related things etc..) and very often it is something that was formerly furiously frowned upon. Like punks lining up as propagandists of big pharma or state media institutions and so on. While in past, it would be almost unheard underground bands or people would rally in favor of politicians in their social circles. Or be so preoccupied in daily politics that they could not think any nuance and complexity of situation, just these dull management level questions.

I don't know exactly what Von Thronstahl is saying in song, but I am pretty sure that its some sort of protest song and bound to stir polemic like artist has done in past, hah.. I would assume return of polemic neofolk could be good thing, if there is certain level of ambiguyity there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQV78GnusAw

It's a great song and amazing video but I am confused of what the message is. The symbolism in the video could be a great artistic representation of what I think it may be going against the war machine programming but I could be completely wrong since it's tagged #Ukraine.... Usually anything tagged #Ukraine is mindless bullshit that falls into the trappings of Psychological Warfare. The Rider of Conquest is both Christ and Antichrist which is symbolized by the white Horse. It was much easier to separate the art from the artist in the past but I have noticed a great divide recently, like never before. I can't support labels like Old Captain who's ethics allign perfectly with the mainstream sewage propaganda... "Hail Israel, Glory to Ukraine."...If this song is the same bullshit war propaganda, they can fuck off because that is nothing more than Bilderberg group think spreading into underground music. Underground music shouldn't support the war machine, big pharma, or any mainstream propaganda designed to make people agreeable to their own downfall. Also, the ones that think they are anti-establishment, the Punks for example, are the biggest supporters of medical tyranny and mega war corporations...

It's all a complete farce that a country like US&A is sending trillions of our monopoly money to Ukraine but only send thousands to their own people devastated by the Hurricanes. Also, the Hunter Biden money laundering that was going on in Ukraine well before the "war" is a red flag, not to mention their president is an actor. It seems like Ukraine was created to launder money and fester corruption... How anyone can stand with that is mind numbing.

[Cranial Blast]

Not sure how many noticed yet VON THRONSTAHL new material? Very much in the neofolk realm. Track translates something like "In the reverse of turning time", and track includes pretty lengthy manifest related to Ukraina situation. It may be curious, people tend to have quite different views on what is going on there. I am not surprised that in germany, people are critical against USA imperialist moves and see themselves in middle of russian/usa conflict, rather than something precisely about Ukraine or their own native lands. In Finland, due historical reasons, question is pretty simple.


However, it what he is talking about in the "manifest", seeing how odd it is to see how rebellious underground movements these days line-up in support, endorsement for some particular side (I suppose you can pick any. Palestine/Israel, Ukraine, covid related things etc..) and very often it is something that was formerly furiously frowned upon. Like punks lining up as propagandists of big pharma or state media institutions and so on. While in past, it would be almost unheard underground bands or people would rally in favor of politicians in their social circles. Or be so preoccupied in daily politics that they could not think any nuance and complexity of situation, just these dull management level questions.

I don't know exactly what Von Thronstahl is saying in song, but I am pretty sure that its some sort of protest song and bound to stir polemic like artist has done in past, hah.. I would assume return of polemic neofolk could be good thing, if there is certain level of ambiguyity there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQV78GnusAw

It's a great song and amazing video but I am confused of what the message is. The symbolism in the video could be a great artistic representation of what I think it may be but I could be completely wrong since it's tagged #Ukraine.... Usually anything tagged #Ukraine is mindless bullshit that falls into the trappings of Psychological Warfare. The Rider of Conquest is both Christ and Antichrist which is symbolized by the white Horse. It was much easier to separate the art from the artist in the past but I have noticed a great divide recently, like never before. I can't support labels like Old Captain who's ethics allign perfectly with the mainstream sewage propaganda... "Hail Israel, Glory to Ukraine."...If this song is the same bullshit war propaganda, they can fuck off because that is nothing more than Bilderberg group think spreading into underground music. Underground music shouldn't support the war machine, big pharma, or any mainstream propaganda designed to make people agreeable to their own downfall. Also, the ones that think they are anti-establishment, the Punks for example, are the biggest supporters of medical tyranny and mega war corporations...

It's all a complete farce that a country like US&A is sending trillions of our monopoly money to Ukraine but only send thousands to their own people devastated by the Hurricanes. Also, the Hunter Biden money laundering that was going on in Ukraine well before the "war" is a red flag, not to mention their president is an actor. It seems like Ukraine was created to launder money and fester corruption... How anyone can stand with that is mind numbing.

Nobody in America really cares or stands with "Ukraine" anyways. It's yet another far left progressive stance in America that bleeding heart type put out yard signs on their freshly cut green grass, just another virtue signal moment from ivory tower Marxists. I've always been under the impression Ukraine has relied heavily on the Azov battalion as their official, yet unofficial military presence in the event of boots on the ground combat, that if these progressives looked into would be severely annoyed, all the while condeming anyone for anything as being "far right" that goes against their Marxist agenda. I'd imagine most Americans have no idea of what the war over there is like in general. I know some peoples living in both Ukraine and Russia and the general view I've received is that the war sucks and just needs to end already! America is throwing it's useless monopoly money down the toliet all of the time, if not at Ukraine at other dumb useless shit that only advances the nation further down the pits and as is the rest of western civilization. I think it's yet another way to speed up the inevitably towards this grand old reset. We will probably be heading into world war 3 soon, because after all, when inflation is at all time highs and currency becomes inevitably worthless... Their last resort is to bring upon war!

[BatteredStatesofEuphoria]

Not sure how many noticed yet VON THRONSTAHL new material? Very much in the neofolk realm. Track translates something like "In the reverse of turning time", and track includes pretty lengthy manifest related to Ukraina situation. It may be curious, people tend to have quite different views on what is going on there. I am not surprised that in germany, people are critical against USA imperialist moves and see themselves in middle of russian/usa conflict, rather than something precisely about Ukraine or their own native lands. In Finland, due historical reasons, question is pretty simple.


However, it what he is talking about in the "manifest", seeing how odd it is to see how rebellious underground movements these days line-up in support, endorsement for some particular side (I suppose you can pick any. Palestine/Israel, Ukraine, covid related things etc..) and very often it is something that was formerly furiously frowned upon. Like punks lining up as propagandists of big pharma or state media institutions and so on. While in past, it would be almost unheard underground bands or people would rally in favor of politicians in their social circles. Or be so preoccupied in daily politics that they could not think any nuance and complexity of situation, just these dull management level questions.

I don't know exactly what Von Thronstahl is saying in song, but I am pretty sure that its some sort of protest song and bound to stir polemic like artist has done in past, hah.. I would assume return of polemic neofolk could be good thing, if there is certain level of ambiguyity there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQV78GnusAw

It's a great song and amazing video but I am confused of what the message is. The symbolism in the video could be a great artistic representation of what I think it may be but I could be completely wrong since it's tagged #Ukraine.... Usually anything tagged #Ukraine is mindless bullshit that falls into the trappings of Psychological Warfare. The Rider of Conquest is both Christ and Antichrist which is symbolized by the white Horse. It was much easier to separate the art from the artist in the past but I have noticed a great divide recently, like never before. I can't support labels like Old Captain who's ethics allign perfectly with the mainstream sewage propaganda... "Hail Israel, Glory to Ukraine."...If this song is the same bullshit war propaganda, they can fuck off because that is nothing more than Bilderberg group think spreading into underground music. Underground music shouldn't support the war machine, big pharma, or any mainstream propaganda designed to make people agreeable to their own downfall. Also, the ones that think they are anti-establishment, the Punks for example, are the biggest supporters of medical tyranny and mega war corporations...

It's all a complete farce that a country like US&A is sending trillions of our monopoly money to Ukraine but only send thousands to their own people devastated by the Hurricanes. Also, the Hunter Biden money laundering that was going on in Ukraine well before the "war" is a red flag, not to mention their president is an actor. It seems like Ukraine was created to launder money and fester corruption... How anyone can stand with that is mind numbing.

Nobody in America really cares or stands with "Ukraine" anyways. It's yet another far left progressive stance in America that bleeding heart type put out yard signs on their freshly cut green grass, just another virtue signal moment from ivory tower Marxists. I've always been under the impression Ukraine has relied heavily on the Azov battalion as their official, yet unofficial military presence in the event of boots on the ground combat, that if these progressives looked into would be severely annoyed, all the while condeming anyone for anything as being "far right" that goes against their Marxist agenda. I'd imagine most Americans have no idea of what the war over there is like in general. I know some peoples living in both Ukraine and Russia and the general view I've received is that the war sucks and just needs to end already! America is throwing it's useless monopoly money down the toliet all of the time, if not at Ukraine at other dumb useless shit that only advances the nation further down the pits and as is the rest of western civilization. I think it's yet another way to speed up the inevitably towards this grand old reset. We will probably be heading into world war 3 soon, because after all, when inflation is at all time highs and currency becomes inevitably worthless... Their last resort is to bring upon war!

Nothing brought out the hypocrisy, absurdity, and just plain myopic ignorance of the "progressives" on Ukraine than the incident last year where the Canadian Parliament virtue signaled their dedication to the cause by honoring a supposed Ukrainian "hero" of WWII, only for it to rapidly come out that the guy had fought alongside the Nazis and engaged in legitimate war crimes, ie, not just defending the homeland. After which, said "enlightened folk" promptly blamed their usual go-to boogeyman du jour, "right-wing disinformation," and proclaimed they were the REAL victims, before finally trying to memory hole the whole thing....

These are the same people that 20 years ago (quite rightly) decried the Iraq War. Turns out the only thing they really cared about was whether it was "their guy" giving the orders. Although, to be fair, while I wouldn't agree with most of their other politics, there are plenty of dissident elements on the Left that recognize the hypocrisy of the Ukraine grift in the West and have called out the fake progressives (really neoliberals) who cheer it on.

Anyway, this is probably taking things way off the original topic, so to tie it back to neofolk...

One darkly amusing thing about the Ukraine war is apparently Azov and some of the related far-right elements in the Ukrainian military make extensive use of the DIJ totenkompf, which led to numerous DIJ namedrops in mainstream Western media outlets where I never would have expected to see the name ever. Maybe Douglas P holds the secret key to peace and saving us alll from WWIII???

[Balor/SS1535]

Not sure how many noticed yet VON THRONSTAHL new material? Very much in the neofolk realm. Track translates something like "In the reverse of turning time", and track includes pretty lengthy manifest related to Ukraina situation. It may be curious, people tend to have quite different views on what is going on there. I am not surprised that in germany, people are critical against USA imperialist moves and see themselves in middle of russian/usa conflict, rather than something precisely about Ukraine or their own native lands. In Finland, due historical reasons, question is pretty simple.


However, it what he is talking about in the "manifest", seeing how odd it is to see how rebellious underground movements these days line-up in support, endorsement for some particular side (I suppose you can pick any. Palestine/Israel, Ukraine, covid related things etc..) and very often it is something that was formerly furiously frowned upon. Like punks lining up as propagandists of big pharma or state media institutions and so on. While in past, it would be almost unheard underground bands or people would rally in favor of politicians in their social circles. Or be so preoccupied in daily politics that they could not think any nuance and complexity of situation, just these dull management level questions.

I don't know exactly what Von Thronstahl is saying in song, but I am pretty sure that its some sort of protest song and bound to stir polemic like artist has done in past, hah.. I would assume return of polemic neofolk could be good thing, if there is certain level of ambiguyity there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQV78GnusAw

It's a great song and amazing video but I am confused of what the message is. The symbolism in the video could be a great artistic representation of what I think it may be but I could be completely wrong since it's tagged #Ukraine.... Usually anything tagged #Ukraine is mindless bullshit that falls into the trappings of Psychological Warfare. The Rider of Conquest is both Christ and Antichrist which is symbolized by the white Horse. It was much easier to separate the art from the artist in the past but I have noticed a great divide recently, like never before. I can't support labels like Old Captain who's ethics allign perfectly with the mainstream sewage propaganda... "Hail Israel, Glory to Ukraine."...If this song is the same bullshit war propaganda, they can fuck off because that is nothing more than Bilderberg group think spreading into underground music. Underground music shouldn't support the war machine, big pharma, or any mainstream propaganda designed to make people agreeable to their own downfall. Also, the ones that think they are anti-establishment, the Punks for example, are the biggest supporters of medical tyranny and mega war corporations...

It's all a complete farce that a country like US&A is sending trillions of our monopoly money to Ukraine but only send thousands to their own people devastated by the Hurricanes. Also, the Hunter Biden money laundering that was going on in Ukraine well before the "war" is a red flag, not to mention their president is an actor. It seems like Ukraine was created to launder money and fester corruption... How anyone can stand with that is mind numbing.

Nobody in America really cares or stands with "Ukraine" anyways. It's yet another far left progressive stance in America that bleeding heart type put out yard signs on their freshly cut green grass, just another virtue signal moment from ivory tower Marxists. I've always been under the impression Ukraine has relied heavily on the Azov battalion as their official, yet unofficial military presence in the event of boots on the ground combat, that if these progressives looked into would be severely annoyed, all the while condeming anyone for anything as being "far right" that goes against their Marxist agenda. I'd imagine most Americans have no idea of what the war over there is like in general. I know some peoples living in both Ukraine and Russia and the general view I've received is that the war sucks and just needs to end already! America is throwing it's useless monopoly money down the toliet all of the time, if not at Ukraine at other dumb useless shit that only advances the nation further down the pits and as is the rest of western civilization. I think it's yet another way to speed up the inevitably towards this grand old reset. We will probably be heading into world war 3 soon, because after all, when inflation is at all time highs and currency becomes inevitably worthless... Their last resort is to bring upon war!

One darkly amusing thing about the Ukraine war is apparently Azov and some of the related far-right elements in the Ukrainian military make extensive use of the DIJ totenkompf, which led to numerous DIJ namedrops in mainstream Western media outlets where I never would have expected to see the name ever. Maybe Douglas P holds the secret key to peace and saving us alll from WWIII???

But isn't Douglas also selling signed lps on Facebook to give money to Ukraine?  He seems pretty into the whole thing too.  Funny to hear of the Azov connection, though, as I imagine that many of the musicians associated them would not be too thrilled about his "other" interests outside broad, right-wing politics...

[FreakAnimalFinland]

While in past, it would be almost unheard underground bands or people would rally in favor of politicians in their social circles. Or be so preoccupied in daily politics that they could not think any nuance and complexity of situation, just these dull management level questions.

Which leads to suggestion that topic can try to focus on neofolk, and leave generic geopolitics and such into other forums where you got abundance of such topics. I know I brought it up, but rather in discussion of artists.

[Cranial Blast]

Another great neofolk album I'm really hung up on that easily has a place right up there with the best of them, is Foresta Di Ferro - Bury Me Standing and I'm really pleased to have this album on CD in my own collection. This is one of those projects that completely understands the importance, aesthetics and proper approach to the genre that is neofolk in a way that gives a nod to the past demi gods, while holding their own foot print in the genre as something unique and yet very interesting! I'd say Bury Me Standing is not only a prerequisite to getting into the genre by and large, but should also be recognized as a top tier artist whom demands and commands the much deserved respect! Oak Leaf by itself is an absolute classic for the genre.

[unheimlich]

off the top of my head besides the obvious larger artists I think early novy svet, voxus.imp, waldteufel, kulgrinda are all interesting. Could add more to the list later

Waldteufel's latest album is from 2007, is the project still active?

He played live extremely frequently throughout the 2010's, although the climate in Portland became ridiculous enough with antifa targeting him and getting him kicked off opening for Psychic TV, and generally gaslighting the narrative as they often do in such situations.

I don't believe the project is retired though.

[host body]

What's funny is that Émile Waldteufel the composer was french and jewish. Don't know if that's who he took his name from, who knows. Even more funny is this neofolk artist has some sort of right wing sympathies, hah.

[burdizzo1]

Bit like Éric Zemmour?

[host body]

Bit like Éric Zemmour?

Waldteufel the composer was not a politician, so not really comparable. I have no idea what beliefs Waldteufel had, politically or otherwise. I guess he could have been a zionist, who knows.

[xdementia]

We just released a video for the title track of our latest album

And that album is now available on cassette from Small Offerings https://smallofferings.bandcamp.com/album/victory-defeat in addition to vinyl