Witch Hunt Season is Open

[HongKongGoolagong]

I was having a private discussion with John Doran (Quietus, BBC, Vice mag etc etc) in the days before he decided to run with the piece. We managed to remain civil with each other - we have a number of real life friends in common.

Fairly convinced that the motives for this series are purely financial, unlike the ideological reasoning of previous dissenting voices calling for self-policing in underground (Christoph Fringeli/Datacide, Andy Wilson/WMTN, Stewart Home, John Eden etc).

Most recent interview with Bower clearly states that his star of origin is Sirius.

We are the opposers of the sun god and white bread family

http://magreb.org/2017/06/skullflower-eng/

[online prowler]

I was having a private discussion with John Doran (Quietus, BBC, Vice mag etc etc) in the days before he decided to run with the piece. We managed to remain civil with each other - we have a number of real life friends in common.

Thanks for the notice S.

In what regards to the rest of this mess of a thread I cannot care less. Still there is an option for those whom want and cannot reach by iron fist. Utilize guerilla internet tactics and hit Quietus and related folk where it might hurt - in the 'cash-in internet clicks'. Would love to see a wave of social media reporting of their posts as spam, bullying, etc. Posts are at your disposal to be removed if you really care. Music is war.

[HongKongGoolagong]

Excellent interview re: the Nashazphone label who released the last two Skullflower LPs before this tedious drama is at https://madamasr.com/en/2017/04/04/feature/culture/music-industry-conversations-hicham-chadly/

[EXU]

I hadn't even heard of the Quietus either, I checked the article at the time and it was laughable and weak.

This one is quite enjoyable if I remember right:

https://thequietus.com/articles/13503-skullflower-stefan-jaworzyn-interview

But I guess the new one received more clicks in a week than this one ever.

[Cementimental]

UPDATE: MB is selling a stick painted pink

[Lazrs3]

UPDATE: MB is selling a stick painted pink

Ahem - Fire Snake!

[Bloated Slutbag]

I guess this is kind of inevitable when certain (political) tropes get mixed up with event called RAW POWER. Maybe put a little more thought into the name next time?

[PuddysJacket]

I guess this is kind of inevitable when certain (political) tropes get mixed up with event called RAW POWER. Maybe put a little more thought into the name next time?

Seriously. Pick a different Stooges album next time, one that can't be misconstrued as a veiled attack on women/minorities/plants/animals/food choices.

[Cementimental]

they are waaay ahead of you :)



(deleted a more argumentative reply :) )

[Cementimental]

CALLING ALL PE GOONS: remind me again how the Black Sun is an A-OK symbol to put on the cover of your album of prosumer preset synth drones, weak yelling from an MS Word lyric sheet thru an behringer echo and goofy flanger mic feedback, or suitable for your middle class 'occult goth' living room decor in the background of your cat photos on instagram, and that ordinary non-nazi people offended by it are being unreasonable 'snowflakes' jumping to ridiculous conclusions

[FreakAnimalFinland]

CALLING ALL PE GOONS: remind me again how the Black Sun is an A-OK symbol to put on the cover of your album

Should this be understood in the same way as demanding replies if it is still A-OK to keep playing violent videogames and using social media and messageboards for memes?

If one wants to draw direct links to shooting incident and Skullflowers decoration, oh please... PE goons have used the symbol long before manifest of mr. Tarrant, for wide variety of purposes and meanings. I doubt usage decreases at all, except is someone is worried about getting kicked out of "festival" for wide variety of petty reasons people can come up with.

[Cementimental]

Mostly joking/mocking but my point is that it's just not surprising that, if you use that symbol, most people won't want anything to do with your band and it's disingenuous to be shocked by that or act like they are the ones being unreasonable. I found it ironic to see the symbol appear in such a horrific and serious context so shortly after the flash-in-the-pan skullflower drama.

Appearing (whether it's actually the case or not) to be on the side of mass-murdering neo-nazis isn't really all that 'petty' reason for someone to kick you off a bill.

[tiny_tove]

is the document downloadable anywhere?

[FreakAnimalFinland]

Appearing (whether it's actually the case or not) to be on the side of mass-murdering neo-nazis isn't really all that 'petty' reason for someone to kick you off a bill.

Well, I find it petty - if we're talking about misinformed hysteria, which is the actual reason. Not specific content of artist. Of course if we are talking about alternative music festival, I expect nothing less. If getting kicked out from actual industrial/noise fests, then I find it amusing that after all these years, people could only approach subject matter based on surface level assumptions and tabloid level conclusions.

I personally can't be emotionally moved by such incidents or see them be more than curious incidents in course of history, Nevertheless:
At this point I'd prefer that if people -including the notorious PE GOONS- feel like spreading the manifesto or video, they do not do it over SI forum. Just for forum to be sort of... ehm, less "magnet for trouble". I'm pretty sure anyone can find them online if they search for them.

[Cementimental]

Yeah that sounds wise. And yes the Daily Mail are/were sharing it so it's not exactly hard to find it seems