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#21
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 27, 2026, 09:47:06 AMThis type of thing is very important to most, including also myself. Of course I would survive without noise gigs, sure, but the gatherings of likeminded, that happens frequently enough, but NOT all the time, is good.
At least to me it feels that when you got month or two between seeing people, you actually got things to discuss. I ain't the type of guy sitting daily for coffee, or friends couch, talking whatever. No thanks. It is more like people discussing what is happening, planning, even sort of brainstorming. Perhaps invitations to collaborate or whatever. Then everybody goes on their own ways. Often somewhat vitalized by idea that there is actually small interests to what they do. Someone asked for compilation. Someone asked if planning any gigs. Someone talking about the best Merzbow CD you just finally managed to get. Sometimes absolutely nerdy stuff. Sometimes more serious. Yet, at least I can't take the non-stop social scene thing at all. There has to be the balance of when you talk and when you do. And if nothing gets done, what is there to talk about? It's not some sort of obligation, of course, but it would feel weird if I'd go to gig, someone asks what's happening lately and I would be like "nothing...". It is without exception, when I return from noise gig, back home, there is intense will to create, play and record. Plan things and execute things. Yet, the certain amount of loneliness or at least being alone is mandatory to even get started anything worth doing. No point in jamming for fun, hah..
I agree. At least personally, the lack of access to the "social scene" (it's just too far from me for that level of daily connection) is what makes the chance meetings so meaningful and productive/inspiring. If I see people once every month or so, then I have the time to record some new CDs to share and distribute.
#22
In this episode, it is mr. WCN who is most interesting, when not only he does the sort of "PR job" like most in episode, but has longer piece about the dilemma of values / attitudes / politics in noise. Balancing somewhere in accepting noise ain't just one kind of culture, but includes quite wide spectrum of personalities, but also insisting there may be necessity to make clear what host of show stands for. I don't know what exactly man is planning, but since there's been many types of people, but I am pretty sure IF there would be artists who even moderately would hint he may not absolutely hate the current US president, there would be consequences. If not actual, at least there would be this collective thought that it should or at least could? It seems to be the pinnacle of conflict. I mean, of course, that revolving around this particular topic would be totally dumb, but other somehow heated topics or projects included could bring neat tension. I don't know what type of hate mail Oskar have received or if negative remarks online has been annoying, but I have my doubts if it could be anything very severe.. unless the mentioned lack of reactions? One would hope public episodes, noise zines and such, would stir more discussions. Function as openings. For me they have worked like that most of the time.
#23
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#24
Last post by Atrophist - January 27, 2026, 02:21:22 PM
Quote from: Stipsi on January 27, 2026, 12:17:36 PMQuote from: MT on January 27, 2026, 10:11:42 AMGreat topic! I think loneliness, or solitude, is common among noise fans. Just by being such a niche thing to be interested about. I've talked about this with other people, how in a way I cherish those early days of "noise loneliness". There was no Facebook, was not into zine culture yet, Chrondritic Sound forum seemed a bit too intimidating, posted there couple times but mostly read what big boys were discussing. But there was no outlet personally to talk about noise, it created an interesting insular state of mind. Living in a small town back then, there was hardly anyone to talk about anything remotely intellectual. There was no outside "noise" to dictate what album is good and what's not. Created this unbiased taste in the beginnings. Observe record sleeves throughly, watch live pictures online to get some kind of idea what's going on. Ordering stuff from distros on a hunch, or by relation to some other project. I am very happy I got to experience my introduction to noise and power electronics this way, discovering and wondering. Waiting for each album to arrive like Christmas.
Nowdays it's completely different, Facebook groups are great for sharing favorite records, this forum naturally (which I should post more to) and even Whatsapp groups with likeminded brigade of noise heads. It's a great way to communicate and share ideas, whenever you feel like reading them and replying. I have no time to "hang out" with noise people every day or even every week. But like Mikko mentioned above, gigs are great places to share thoughts, ideas of new recordings, new live gigs and in general create bonds with people. Maybe the excitement of hunting and discovering is somewhat diluted, but I believe can also be achieved, just depends on the circumstances of an individual.
And to answer the question of the topic; yes and no. Loneliness is needed to create the mindset, but it can also be helpful to have other push me around every now and then.
Hey, if there's WhatsApp and Telegram noise groups let me know!
Cheers!
Not to presume or butt in, but I second this. I've come to absolutely despise "normal" social media -- although as someone who organizes shows I can't get away from it altogether.
#25
Last post by Stipsi - January 27, 2026, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: MT on January 27, 2026, 10:11:42 AMGreat topic! I think loneliness, or solitude, is common among noise fans. Just by being such a niche thing to be interested about. I've talked about this with other people, how in a way I cherish those early days of "noise loneliness". There was no Facebook, was not into zine culture yet, Chrondritic Sound forum seemed a bit too intimidating, posted there couple times but mostly read what big boys were discussing. But there was no outlet personally to talk about noise, it created an interesting insular state of mind. Living in a small town back then, there was hardly anyone to talk about anything remotely intellectual. There was no outside "noise" to dictate what album is good and what's not. Created this unbiased taste in the beginnings. Observe record sleeves throughly, watch live pictures online to get some kind of idea what's going on. Ordering stuff from distros on a hunch, or by relation to some other project. I am very happy I got to experience my introduction to noise and power electronics this way, discovering and wondering. Waiting for each album to arrive like Christmas.
Nowdays it's completely different, Facebook groups are great for sharing favorite records, this forum naturally (which I should post more to) and even Whatsapp groups with likeminded brigade of noise heads. It's a great way to communicate and share ideas, whenever you feel like reading them and replying. I have no time to "hang out" with noise people every day or even every week. But like Mikko mentioned above, gigs are great places to share thoughts, ideas of new recordings, new live gigs and in general create bonds with people. Maybe the excitement of hunting and discovering is somewhat diluted, but I believe can also be achieved, just depends on the circumstances of an individual.
And to answer the question of the topic; yes and no. Loneliness is needed to create the mindset, but it can also be helpful to have other push me around every now and then.
Hey, if there's WhatsApp and Telegram noise groups let me know!
Cheers!
#26
Last post by Stipsi - January 27, 2026, 12:15:31 PM
I always lived in small villages with max 4k or less inhabitants on the hills.
Pretty isolated.
I'm not an antisocial person, but
loneliness and solitude is pretty common for me, both as "intent" and forced, because having peculiar artistic interests in places like mine, is not properly accepted.
I'm a solitary person for nature and this doesn't affect me at all.
Most of my free time I'm alone.
But honestly, as MT said, having forums and social media groups to share noise beliefs is a sorta of cathartic therapy.
At least for me.
#27
Last post by pentd - January 27, 2026, 11:31:32 AM
Achtung!!
Change of plans. Kartio set is cancelled, instead we have a set from AZURE ADMIN!
These are after all student concerts, it's a house priority
Elikkäs oppilasvoimin vedetään tällä kertaa, sehän on talon prioriteetti!
#28
Last post by pentd - January 27, 2026, 11:27:28 AM
Kiitos kaikille!!
Xlent evening displaying a variety of different flavors of noizu!!
#29
Oi!
Updated list in the first post.
Have a look, thanks!
#30
Last post by MT - January 27, 2026, 10:11:42 AM
Great topic! I think loneliness, or solitude, is common among noise fans. Just by being such a niche thing to be interested about. I've talked about this with other people, how in a way I cherish those early days of "noise loneliness". There was no Facebook, was not into zine culture yet, Chrondritic Sound forum seemed a bit too intimidating, posted there couple times but mostly read what big boys were discussing. But there was no outlet personally to talk about noise, it created an interesting insular state of mind. Living in a small town back then, there was hardly anyone to talk about anything remotely intellectual. There was no outside "noise" to dictate what album is good and what's not. Created this unbiased taste in the beginnings. Observe record sleeves throughly, watch live pictures online to get some kind of idea what's going on. Ordering stuff from distros on a hunch, or by relation to some other project. I am very happy I got to experience my introduction to noise and power electronics this way, discovering and wondering. Waiting for each album to arrive like Christmas.
Nowdays it's completely different, Facebook groups are great for sharing favorite records, this forum naturally (which I should post more to) and even Whatsapp groups with likeminded brigade of noise heads. It's a great way to communicate and share ideas, whenever you feel like reading them and replying. I have no time to "hang out" with noise people every day or even every week. But like Mikko mentioned above, gigs are great places to share thoughts, ideas of new recordings, new live gigs and in general create bonds with people. Maybe the excitement of hunting and discovering is somewhat diluted, but I believe can also be achieved, just depends on the circumstances of an individual.
And to answer the question of the topic; yes and no. Loneliness is needed to create the mindset, but it can also be helpful to have other push me around every now and then.
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