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#21
Maybe an initial thought in another direction is this: Many people experience noise in everyday situations as an intrusion on their isolation (which is generally associated with silence). Noise is an imposition, something unwanted, or an interruption. So I think there might be some sort of "otherness" that is present in the experience of noise, at least in its day-to-day sense (i.e. something that penetrates through loneliness, in some way?).
#22
Quote from: Minus1 on January 26, 2026, 04:30:54 AMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on January 26, 2026, 03:51:34 AMAs a roundabout way into this topic, I can say that some of the times that I feel the least lonely are when I am engaging with noise people at shows (and, to a lesser extent, through forums like this---though the lack of "face to face" really limits things with that). (For context, I deal with loneliness very frequently.)
I think I have a lot more to say on this topic, but I need some time to collect my thoughts.
May I ask out loud, as you gather thoughts, if loneliness for you is "bad"?
I knew, even as a kid, that being alone was my preferred state. Oh sure - over the decades I did all the weddings, parties, everything. But most of that time I thought "I sure would like to be alone". And now, as an old guy, I embrace that.
And right now I'm doing Deathpile - G.R. loud, for the second time in a row, and who the fuck would be ok with that in the "normal world"? 😂
I dunno. Being alone / solo / single is often frowned upon in this world. But I think a great percentage of us are happiest this way.
How does this connect with Noise? I'm not really sure. But I can blast "strange music" whenever the fuck I want without pushback / guilt. 😂
Edit: I got carried away here. Sorry. Not the original post intent. I'll (thankfully!) stfu now, and lurk.
ha Without getting too personal, I'll say that it's a struggle! So, yes, I would say that it's a bad thing overall. On the positive side, however, not being close to many people has also allowed me to be shielded from being too normal. Because of this, even just
listening to noise and other weird stuff is a sort of lifeline.
Returning this more to noise, it makes me think of Merzbow---where, in many of the early discussions, noise is associated with the erotic as a sort of chaotic connective force!
#23
Last post by DismalChant - January 26, 2026, 05:55:37 AM
OUT NOW on PHAGEDismal Chant- Aus Der Traum CS and Digitalhttps://phagetapes.bandcamp.com/album/aus-der-traum"Better Living Through Chemistry." ¹
"O, bring me needles, ampoules, powder ground by pestle on cool striated marble." ²
The wretched fumes of which the night is born. Glassy eyed and pliable. A dreaming sea. To be coated in nothingness. Exhaling Babel's dross. Bereft of the stars. A song that sleeps in the blood. Soporific gust of time's yawn. The smell of leaded petrol, backyard incinerators, and crackling circuitry.
¹ DuPont
² Annie Boutelle
Mastered by Grant Richardson at Hex Audio Labs
#24
Last post by DismalChant - January 26, 2026, 05:53:48 AM
OUT NOW on PHAGEDismal Chant- Aus Der Traum CS and Digitalhttps://phagetapes.bandcamp.com/album/aus-der-traum"Better Living Through Chemistry." ¹
"O, bring me needles, ampoules, powder ground by pestle on cool striated marble." ²
The wretched fumes of which the night is born. Glassy eyed and pliable. A dreaming sea. To be coated in nothingness. Exhaling Babel's dross. Bereft of the stars. A song that sleeps in the blood. Soporific gust of time's yawn. The smell of leaded petrol, backyard incinerators, and crackling circuitry.
¹ DuPont
² Annie Boutelle
Mastered by Grant Richardson at Hex Audio Labs
#25
Quote from: Minus1 on January 26, 2026, 04:30:54 AMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on January 26, 2026, 03:51:34 AMAs a roundabout way into this topic, I can say that some of the times that I feel the least lonely are when I am engaging with noise people at shows (and, to a lesser extent, through forums like this---though the lack of "face to face" really limits things with that). (For context, I deal with loneliness very frequently.)
I think I have a lot more to say on this topic, but I need some time to collect my thoughts.
May I ask out loud, as you gather thoughts, if loneliness for you is "bad"?
I knew, even as a kid, that being alone was my preferred state. Oh sure - over the decades I did all the weddings, parties, everything. But most of that time I thought "I sure would like to be alone". And now, as an old guy, I embrace that.
And right now I'm doing Deathpile - G.R. loud, for the second time in a row, and who the fuck would be ok with that in the "normal world"? 😂
I dunno. Being alone / solo / single is often frowned upon in this world. But I think a great percentage of us are happiest this way.
How does this connect with Noise? I'm not really sure. But I can blast "strange music" whenever the fuck I want without pushback / guilt. 😂
Your perspective is enlightening, hopeful and reassuring in some sense. After failed relationship, other disappointments and ect. It's nice to hear you've found a sense of calming or clarity with time within your own personal space to where you can find a sense of peace so to say. I'm finding that with time, that it's becoming more "doomed" and a punishment to seek a higher meaning or purpose the further one wants to investigate any form of "truth". I don't feel any sense or calm, but rather one of a sense of quiet preparation for this enviable sense of foreboding doom. I agree in the sense that there is a sense of freedom in being alone, but with that solitary comes this weird ominous sense of guilt that makes one feel as if they can never relax. It would feel as if I was putting on the blinders to say the world we are headed in would be a place of mundane repetition of the last 2 decades, but it feels more urgent and ending at the moment. It's almost like we've reached a pinnacle of what once was will no longer be the same from here after. 2026 going forward feels like something else to me personally. I wouldn't feel so passionate about the topic of isolation if I didn't feel so personally touched by it. Things about life feel off and altered since we entered the 00 era going forward and I don't think many would disagree that it feels like time is being sped up towards oblivion like never before. Hopeless optimism be the flag we raise in opposition towards the endless void of all realities!
#26
Last post by Minus1 - January 26, 2026, 04:30:54 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on January 26, 2026, 03:51:34 AMAs a roundabout way into this topic, I can say that some of the times that I feel the least lonely are when I am engaging with noise people at shows (and, to a lesser extent, through forums like this---though the lack of "face to face" really limits things with that). (For context, I deal with loneliness very frequently.)
I think I have a lot more to say on this topic, but I need some time to collect my thoughts.
May I ask out loud, as you gather thoughts, if loneliness for you is "bad"?
I knew, even as a kid, that being alone was my preferred state. Oh sure - over the decades I did all the weddings, parties, everything. But most of that time I thought "I sure would like to be alone". And now, as an old guy, I embrace that.
And right now I'm doing Deathpile - G.R. loud, for the second time in a row, and who the fuck would be ok with that in the "normal world"? 😂
I dunno. Being alone / solo / single is often frowned upon in this world. But I think a great percentage of us are happiest this way.
How does this connect with Noise? I'm not really sure. But I can blast "strange music" whenever the fuck I want without pushback / guilt. 😂
Edit: I got carried away here. Sorry. Not the original post intent. I'll (thankfully!) stfu now, and lurk.
#27
As a roundabout way into this topic, I can say that some of the times that I feel the least lonely are when I am engaging with noise people at shows (and, to a lesser extent, through forums like this---though the lack of "face to face" really limits things with that). (For context, I deal with loneliness very frequently.)
I think I have a lot more to say on this topic, but I need some time to collect my thoughts.
#28
Last post by Minus1 - January 26, 2026, 02:54:14 AM
Well, until now, I'd never heard Deathpile - G.R.
In my readings, this seems to either be hailed as a Noise Classic, or is pissed upon for being "True Crime Electronics". I'm always surprised when anybody accuses Deathpile of "glorifying" this guy. It's very easy to find a very intelligent Canady interview which will completely dispel such silly notions. I think some people also dislike what I will call "Narrative Noise".
Known Victims shows up here (on CD) as track 6 of 9. (It's a different placement on the LP, right?) I know that many dislike this 13min that "disrupts the flow/feel of the album". For me it's perfectly placed. I need a fucking break from "G.R." at that point. ("Break" might be the wrong word. Sorry.)
The vocals / subject matter steal the show, and perhaps the PE backing gets relatively un-noticed. I've read many accusations of it being "all the fucking same". They keep it similar throughout - but for my ears it is varied enough, pacewise, with some very carefully placed billowing, to carry the narrative well. I think just the PE here is compelling, (even in - in fact, especially in Known Victims) and deserves more love.
This is "Narrative Noise" done very well, imho. (Like Con-Dom - The Colour Of A Man's Skin.) A powerful start / middle (with Known Victims) / and end. Kenworth / You Will Never Know is a fucking brilliant way to close.
Normally I'm not a fan of 38min Noise. I like long-ass Noise. But here, 38min is good, thank you very much, Deathpile.
#29
Interesting topic indeed! For me noise kind of shares a bit of that same isolation factor and solitary interest that one might also get from black metal as well. I live in what was once a small town, that's now developed into fast growing and sprawling suburb, which is home to mostly new families and old people in their 80s, who have lived here forever. I think the lack of any type of "community" for any interesting anything is few and far between in a major way. Very seldom do I meet people who are into anything remotely interesting as far music or creating music goes and not that I'm out looking to be a part of social community to find it either. I think the lack of this at least for my say is when I'll create noise it's given me kind of a blank canvas of ideas as to creating, not having anyone else around to give pointers or influence in a communal sense. I feel very isolated within the town I live in. I don't really have a desire to connect with it as I naturally feel alienated by it to where I don't feel the need to approach it or engage with it on any level, which in turn can make the process maybe even more isolating, which can maybe be a good thing to..? I dunno. I've lived in different large cities before as well, so I've had an interesting contrast from living in different types of places, but no place has ever felt like home anyways, so maybe that leads to some sort of choice for self isolation or withdrawal from even searching anymore to find like minded individuals. I'd say most of my social interactions regarding noise and music with anyone who's also interested in such topics are always on this forum, very seldom do I have an actual in the flesh conversation with a person about music or music creation out in the world. Also, would like to mention Minnesota, where I reside is the most miserable place on the planet! From most of it's human inhabitants, down to the crippling cold weather, which will lead to even more isolation, whether you want that isolation or not, Ha! My mom told me once that when my great grandpa came to Minnesota from Finland that he absolutely hated it here and drank all of the time. I very much share that same exact sentiment. Anyone who lives here might share the sentiment as well or anywhere ice cold for that matter, the cold brings out the isolation and misanthrope, which in turn can help some of us find our path to interest in such music genres perhaps! Haha
#30
Last post by Minus1 - January 25, 2026, 11:06:34 PM
Hmmm. Interesting topic.
I proudly describe myself as a 64 year old, happy, retired, divorced, single, loner, introvert, swimmer, walker, reader, film-loving Noisehead.
I know exactly ZERO people in real life who would tolerate me blasting Vomir.
So for me, Noise is a lonely hobby - a solitary pursuit - except...these forums!! 😂
I'd still enjoy my Noise sessions without these forums, but this place informs and expands it so much.
Now...did I arrive at Noise (around the age of 40) because of this state of being? I was much more sociable pre-Noise. Perhaps I decided that most people suck then turned to Noise? 😂 Nah! I dunno.
(The Ex loves Coldplay.) 🤷🏼�♂️
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