inspiration & influence of surrounding & conditions in creation of sound

Started by FreakAnimalFinland, December 18, 2009, 11:11:34 PM

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Bloated Slutbag

A sick fetish blossomed in my late teens for riding the screeching beast (to paraphrase a Macro track title). Hometown TO, southernmost bend. Summer afternoons, or after a short rainfall. Absolutely beautiful harsh screechings intertwining from every which angle. And LOUD. To this day the SMELL of burnt metal gives me a woodie.

What especially amplified the experience, to surreptitiously read the expressions on my fellow passengers, was the hum-drum banality of it all. Here we have this intense shrieking chafe that would put Incapacitants to shame and everyone looks bored as shit (though in my case it was a carefully studied pokerface with the occasional grinning lapse).

Later, I began to record these hum-drum escapades, standing in between cars. But without the half-zombied commuters to lend the experience that all important atmos, it just wasn't the same. Nor, given my then militant philosophical disposition re- pointlessly self-referential concepts like "artistic process", would I dare incorporate this into the formal recorded work... if a self had to be referenced, it wouldn't be the clown I had to face every day. (Bits did find their way onto tracks submitted for collab projects, but that felt justifiable since a significant degree of control was abdicated.) Assorted fragments from these and similar hunter-gatherer expedition have slowly trickled into the released work, but - tipping the jimmy hat to that teenage militancy - buried so far down that functionally it doesn't much matter.

I do like these stories and find them most inspiring; something I can really relate to - like Thomas Koner's declaration that "it's sometimes nice to visit (the country); but after three weeks I have to go to the nearest town, sit down and get some good diesel engines and scraping metal sounds."

But nothing - certainly not a bunch of lifeless text - can match the physical experience of that screeching beast, nor the amplified "ferocity" (to paraphrase Hijokaidan) of the intensely banal.
Someone weaker than you should beat you and brag
And take you for a drag

GEWALTMONOPOL

Quote from: alpharmania on January 03, 2010, 04:24:08 PM
a bit off topic, but before the finance crisis I was metal worker constructing waste mills for recycling industry. I always had tape recorder at hand and collected hours of raw sound that I still have use for when doing cutups...
my co-workers thought it was a bit strange that I found such pleasure in what they just considered disturbing part of their work environment... highlight was when we tested the machines and they shredded everything that fell into them. there has been two accidents where sloppy personell has fallen into the mills and come out as swedish meatballs....

Yesterday my role was playing the casualty during extrication (RTC) training. As the hydraulic tools were cutting up the car I was inside I cursed myself for not having brought the H4 to work.
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FreakAnimalFinland





mask wasn't (all) about posing. It was cold out there. See the snowy frozen area in mask when all moisture of breathing just froze on your face.

This was recording / photo trip, so cameras happened to be around. It is possible there will be series of photo/recording industrial sound documentation tapes coming at some point.
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alpharmania

it looks fucking cold, mikko! what kind of place is it?

here are a few photos from one of our recent recording sites:













no pictures from actual session but pretty inspiring place... located 20 minutes outside sundsvall. some video footage can be seen in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aqrRSnB49o&feature=player_embedded

FreakAnimalFinland

See opening message for story of the actual session.
This is ruins of 3 floors high brick factory. Even if it's located pretty much in middle of nowhere, in middle of woods, about 20km from Lahti, it's totally spray painted, some guys play paint-ball gun matches there most likely. Althrough it is hazardous area, since there are huge holes in floors where man of any size can fall from top floor down to basement.
All windows have been smashed and anything that burns, has been burned. When I first visited the place, there was still things like bathrooms. But later it was burned, and all the toilet seats and stuff like that is totally smashed to pieces, so floors are just covered with tiny rubble of glass and "clay". There are things like oil barrels and such around the place, good instruments of course.
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alpharmania

sounds almost identical to this place. in northern sweden (and finland too obviously) there are many places like this that just stand as empty monuments of once active industrial life. reason why these buildings are still around is because of the high costs for doing sanitary work. no one is willing to take responsibility for all the poison and contaminated soil. always nice with new locations...
for "kodon" tape me and a friend broke into a just abandoned mental hospital called sidsjön. some work with crowbar and then it was all our for some hours of recordings. second time I went there they had installed alarm. in mid/late 90s there was also abandoned sanatorium (later mental asylum) that we spent lots of time in for the sick atmosphere. some rooms had piles of used clothes, personal letters, pornomags etc everywhere... some bathtubs with restraining devices... likbod (where corpses where kept for hygiene reasons). inside the childrens part of the hospital we found huge stash of 8mm porno films (no idea where they are today)... 
some years ago they tore down the whole complex and built very fancy apartments for the filthy rich. before they started tearing the place down to give room for the new houses it was one of the most morbid places I visited. decades of anguish and despair captured inside these walls...

FreakAnimalFinland

In very central of Lahti, when I moved here c. 10 years ago, was huge factory. I don't know exactly what they made, but it was gigantic in size (compared to how close it is to living areas), and very close to central. They tore it down and build new music house instead.
But I did some recordings there. Alchemy of the 20th Century has track called "Raumis" which many locals referred the place. Just echoing metal junk recordings. This place, with couple different buildings, one was 5 floors high normal blockhouse type place. I did some of my first industrial aesthetic + fetish photos there. Also remember once was fucking there in top floor, and group of teenage girls had been listening. When we stopped, they peaked into hall, laughed and run away. We watched from window of girls walking away and security cars driving circles.  One of the walls was missing, so every floor had one wall you could simply jump out. Therefore hazardous area, but they had no luck keeping people out of there. Some drinking sessions in the roofs...  It's unfortunate that in urban landscape, all that is old, is being torn down. If not, then spraypainted to total shit. If there is something I really really despise, is the bullshit tagging of anything that's been abandoned. And not only that, but basically everything. I want grey concete monuments decaying, with only color being the rust. Any spray can guy I could find, I'd hope to invite to heavy duty anal insertion ritual. I don't mind in places like NYC where it seems natural, but for fucks sake, baggy pants running loose in abandoned factories of Finland. No thanks. This makes many of the places pretty much ruined what comes to photographing the monuments & colossal architechture.
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Strömkarlen

We once shoot some scenes for a film in an abandon mental hospital in nothern Italy. Great big place but what was the place in the whole complex was the old cinema. The place just screamed for a film festival concentrating on mental hygiene films...

alpharmania

Interesting. I used to do some interesting "urban exploration" in past but nowadays I rarely have the time and energy... like Mikko said, graffiti really ruins the atmosphere of abandoned places... extremely disturbing. It doesn't belong here up north...
once me and my neighbour caught some white trash youth tagging down the walls of our house. we gave them a disciplinary lesson and they never came back.... ha
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nyarluna

Utilizing surrounding environment sound as source material I consider being valuable beyond measure.  It adds a true element into compositions that cannot be replicated by artificial means.  I am constantly noting mentally when a new sound presents itself identifying the source and charting how to capture and utilize the source material for later mixes.  There was an abandoned dairy factory many years ago that yielded a treasure trove of material and exploration.   Leaving the party goers to swill on the rooftop, I found huge cavernous rooms with glass littering the floor providing immense reverberations to be truly inspirational.   I consider findings like this to be a fundamental of industrial, employing the wreckage around to create beautiful violent dissonance.  The pictures Mikko posted are most inspiring to get out and do some new exploring!

GEWALTMONOPOL

Tonight me and my colleagues dropped a TV, a tyre/wheel and a 30 litre barrel full of water on top of a car with a sunroof from the drill tower which is approximately 15 metres high. The roof of the car is well caved in. Strapped inside the vehicle was an H4 which recorded the lot. Needless to say it sounds ace.
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murderous_vision

I worked in the same machine shop for 19 years, and over this time (at least since purchase of mini-disc recorder) logged at least 10 full mini-discs of machine samples. Most memorable story is being caught by my boss stuffing carbide bars into the headstock of a blanchard grinder spinning at 2000 rpm. Very dangerous to both machine and humans. No use to explain to the completely clueless dick what my agenda was in doing so. The result however, was a great percussive chugging rhythm. Perfect when looped. It is the main source material for the first track on my upcoming release on Danvers State. Field recording is what makes my music most personal, therefor i feel the purchase of the minidisc is the best money i ever spent!

Plague Haus

Pulling this one up from the depths, but I stumbled across this site today and thought it was really interesting.

http://www.gruenrekorder.de/fieldnotes/


tisbor

Interesting topic and many nice stories !

I try to carry around an old tape recorder almost wherever i go , so i can catch interesting sounds ..be it loud voices at some party , big fire crackling , train brakes screeching , junkies and gypsies screaming loud , sea waves , boats or whatever else..

In my hometown you can easily get great sounds because of the marble quarries : mine explosions , tons of scrap rocks being thrown down mountains all around you , big trucks carrying huge pieces of marble , people cutting and sculpting marble , etc.