Mentioned Ramirez podcast does illustrate such thing a bit. Of course, often it is a matter of taste. If some sensitive people do not want to listen his
Last Rape project, simply due the name - it is fine. Just a matter of taste. I doubt they would rally against it, completely clueless what the actual content of project is. That is explained in interview, and it is quite interesting and perhaps even surprising what concept of Last Rape was/is. To hear more in depth about Last Rape, still requires existence of medium where it can be discussed even if subject is seemingly unpleasant. There are multiple examples that indicate people would prefer not to soil their hands due scene politics.
I recall maybe roughly 10 years ago, Con-Dom had set schedule in Europe, until last minute it turned out someone discovered discogs page with artwork and titles of the mid 80's Con-Dom tapes. Date was cancelled, since he was not interested to crawl in front of people who were not really interested to listen his point. Nor he wanted to make big deal about cancelled show, play the victim card, so to say. I got impression it was just something he rather leave behind as quick as possible and move to next gig. Which is something that is often good move and usually recommended for anyone.
Yet in other hand, for those who came for the show in hopes of seeing Con-Dom, and find out show was cancelled, perhaps would have been illuminating to find out it was because
unexplained swastika appeared on tape few decades earlier...and it was
problematic hmmm.. In some ways funny, in some ways not. Any time one hears someone say world "problematic", you pretty much know what is about to come... Utter BS, that is.
It does create quite fruitful breeding ground for industrial noise that seeks to irritate people, but also creates lazy reaction machine that doesn't really live up to what one would expect from industrial-noise.
Quote from: holy ghost on October 06, 2019, 01:59:06 AM
Now it's definitely (maybe) the influx of guys from the black metal scene who love that edgy shit. .
I do see this, yet I also see that there are couple things to note.
-Black Metal for most part, ain't really that edgy. Lots of people in industrial that have connections towards BM don't appear to look or sound that way. To me it seems more like "hipsters" that adapt BM aesthetic, is the more visible phenomena. While BM guys in industrial tend to blend in without sticking out that vividly?
-Black Metal scene, as a whole, seems way way worse than it is in noise - if were are talking about topic here. Paradox perhaps, but it really is well and often displayed. Obvious to see the transition over the years, and escalating at identical timeline with rest of alternative music & popular culture. It is staggering amount of people drawn towards thing they inherently can not accept. So with the influx, I'm sure there is strong possibility you get decent % of
that crowd, not the infamous edgelords.
