Project NAMES?

Started by FreakAnimalFinland, November 12, 2022, 09:48:17 AM

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Earth O.D.

I prefer effective names that somehow encompass or hint of a broader whole, vision and intent. Phonetics are a key factor here. Ambiguous ones with several possible meanings. Crazy/surreal/psychedelic combinations that juxtapose with themselves or with the other content. No need for examples really, there's already a lot of them mentioned here and easy to recognize.

Standard letter combinations of one's given name, number series or such don't do anything for me really unless there's something more behind it or exceptional phonetic value. JFK of course works 'cause there's a whole lot of mythical aura and past to it.

W.K.

Running out of ideas for new topics?

Christ.
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FreakAnimalFinland

Good band names are not good topic?
People who actually listen and appreciate other peoples work, very frequently talk about this. At least my experience.  Am surprised it wouldn't be discussed more in public as it generally is utterly relevant to art people make.

Just today was listening new Noisextra episode where Phroq talked in length about how he decided to reject his name, and start to work under his given name. Recommended.
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FreakAnimalFinland

To elaborate further...
I know "favorite band name", in surface level, may appear as question like in Women in Noise podcast a'la favorite icecream, what vegetable you prefer or such, eh eh... but it really is diffferent kind of question.

Some guys, who could call their work as "test drive of ____" (and synthesizer brand), probably won't get it. But no problem. They can do what they do, but noise for a lot of people is vastly different thing. It is almost existential question.

One example on great project names: I always worshipped CEMENT WOMEN. I heard track in mid 90's or so, and the name itself was such a great one. And sound. What the hell was that? Turns out comp track was pulled out of 80's Japanese tape, for 90's German comp CD.
Still 20 years later, I would talk to guy from other side of the world, just to find out he ALSO worships CEMENT WOMEN, first and foremost the name, but also the sound! And having no idea who it is, when and where it was made. Things you can find out these days very easily. Back in the 90's vastly different. These days, I feel almost cautios to mention it, as it feels it will leak out from obscurity to name posers drop when they want to talk about forgotten Japanese noise. Sure, when tape was made, I was little kid other side of world, but as a teenager merely hearing track and reading name had life altering quality.

The name, was perhaps born from same idea as sound, which sets something like CEMENT WOMEN, as artists who multiple guys around the world look up as bizarre anomaly among all irrelevant sound makers. While I know who and what Cement Women is, and occasionally feel tempted to contact about possibility of further reissue opportunities.... In other hand, that you got like few minutes accessible material and THE name, it may be enough.

More names.
Think of if Bizarre Uproar was called Strange Noise? Would not be even surprisingly from that part of scene that spawned projects like "Weird Vision"!
And actually, now as I mentioned it, I have this vague recollection that this name was invented by Eric Wood of MITB. I'd have to ask for it, but how I remember it, there was mr. Aunt Mary who had even more brutal noise made, and Eric Wood suggested name. And what a name that was! In theory, such a simple, but at the same time charmingly odd. Word Bizarre always having erotic undertone. Anyone familiar with vintage pornography, and as soon as word bizarre appear, you know it's worth it.

There is fairly recent cases, when Finnish artist contacted with material. And I told, yeah, material is really good, but I would never put out release from artist called ____.   Few days later, there is a new name. Better name.

Some artists may not think the name matters, and probably doesn't matter to them. Those guys, we probably don't have too many LP's or CD's in our shelves, appearing again and again on stereos.

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MT

I can tell you as much that the very name idea before Unclean, was Morbid Pussy. Would be a great name for a noisecore band or so though! I think I sent out one demo with that name to PPT. He recommended a name, thus became Unclean.

PTM Jim

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 17, 2022, 10:08:28 PM
Some artists may not think the name matters, and probably doesn't matter to them. Those guys, we probably don't have too many LP's or CD's in our shelves, appearing again and again on stereos.

I can't imagine NOT caring about a band/project name. It's so unbelievably important. Goes for all music, but especially in noise/PE because the sound is already obscure; a name can say a lot.

I tend to prefer a single word that can be just perfect, especially when it can mean multiple things. Taint, Prurient, Grunt, Macronympha, Worth, Slogun, Sickness. I mean, there is a reason I chose DETERGE. It isn't just a random word.

But then there are just simply great names that have so much power and are a little phrase: Pain Jerk, Skin Crime,  Atrax Morgue, Murder Corporation, etc.

If you don't take the time to have a proper name, why should anyone give a fuck about you.

Skuggsidan

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Answering to W.K: Without being too condescending, this post feels somewhat ill-conceived. The name of a project is the key to its existence both in the material world and on the metaphysical plane.

I never find it difficult to remember a project's band name because if you like the project, that name sticks. There was some criticism by Americans that Finnish project names are challenging to absorb; I would probably argue for the opposite. I think these 'weird' names offer a certain namelessness that is unique and appealing. It may be difficult to pronounce names like Gerogerigegege and Hanatarash on and off, but not difficult to memorize.

I have helped countless individuals come up with names for their projects, which shouldn't be necessary if you are genuine enough, I thought from the beginning. But sometimes you say what exactly this is, which is almost a science. Instead, this should be the equivalent of a trademark for a company; it permeates the thought, the drive, and the catalyst that exists in the project and beyond. It is the spirit that will permeate everything it produces. However, some projects might be zen, i.e. total nonsense that still says something. In that seem to be in total nihilism, there lies simultaneously in the essence of everything. There's a fine line between thoughtful, challenging, and sometimes humorous. So, a project's name is alpha and omega and probably the key to its success. In traditional societies, a person's name was an important thing, and a project in this way could be seen as a child that you need to raise and learn how to grow up.
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Bloated Slutbag

A name communicates and doesn't communicate, in ways sound may communicate and not communicate.

At a noise show, the punchline of every first encounter is when project names are disclosed. Was witness to the time Shit met Kunt and the two obligatorily speculating on the wonderful music that might be made together, prospective project titles no less withstanding.
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Bloated Slutbag

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 14, 2022, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 13, 2022, 05:56:45 AM
Testicle Hazard has at least a few good ways of reading what might constitute the hazard, depending on the POV.

Haha! But also, thirdly, like many times in case of Mr. Keränen, the actual joke lies in finnish vs english translation. Kivesvaara being the place up north around where he was born at, and while vaara means "danger", it is also word for used for "forested hill", natural hill that is is formed from large rocks and at least 50 meters high. These appeared in scandinavia during iceage. Well, but besides that, Kivesvaara means kind of "rocky forested hill", the words also mean Kives = testicles, Vaara = danger/hazard.

Rock n roll?
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Bloated Slutbag

Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 14, 2022, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 13, 2022, 05:56:45 AM
Testicle Hazard has at least a few good ways of reading what might constitute the hazard, depending on the POV.

Haha! But also, thirdly, like many times in case of Mr. Keränen, the actual joke lies in finnish vs english translation. Kivesvaara being the place up north around where he was born at, and while vaara means "danger", it is also word for used for "forested hill", natural hill that is is formed from large rocks and at least 50 meters high. These appeared in scandinavia during iceage. Well, but besides that, Kivesvaara means kind of "rocky forested hill", the words also mean Kives = testicles, Vaara = danger/hazard.

Rock n roll?

But seriously, I always sorta thought they were riffing on Flying Testicle, and now you tell me those mothers were 50 meters high...
Someone weaker than you should beat you and brag
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Bloated Slutbag

Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 04:08:32 PM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 14, 2022, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 13, 2022, 05:56:45 AM
Testicle Hazard has at least a few good ways of reading what might constitute the hazard, depending on the POV.

Haha! But also, thirdly, like many times in case of Mr. Keränen, the actual joke lies in finnish vs english translation. Kivesvaara being the place up north around where he was born at, and while vaara means "danger", it is also word for used for "forested hill", natural hill that is is formed from large rocks and at least 50 meters high. These appeared in scandinavia during iceage. Well, but besides that, Kivesvaara means kind of "rocky forested hill", the words also mean Kives = testicles, Vaara = danger/hazard.

Rock n roll?

But seriously, I always sorta thought they were riffing on Flying Testicle, and now you tell me those mothers were 50 meters high...

Once worked with this guy who said he would wake up in cold sweats with vague dream memories of 40-meter high monoliths of cheese bouncing around the landscape. Just wondering if Keränen shared the same dreamspace.
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Skuggsidan

Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 03:50:30 PM
A name communicates and doesn't communicate, in ways sound may communicate and not communicate.

At a noise show, the punchline of every first encounter is when project names are disclosed. Was witness to the time Shit met Kunt and the two obligatorily speculating on the wonderful music that might be made together, prospective project titles no less withstanding.

A good example: Satori.
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burdizzo1

Years ago, I always used to find the parody names of 'pop stars' vaguely amusing - of course, Smell & Quim, but also Masonna, Anus Presley, Wham-O... There seemed to be a whole rake of them in the '90s, but I can't remember them all now. So, not so good if I can't remember them...!

Cosmonauts Hail Satan always struck me as a good name.

And I named our dog after Dagda Mor, so I suppose I must've liked that one, too!

A good name should probably be no more than three words, and be relatively obscure for it to pique the interest. I know it's not noise, but the name Death In June always had me wondering... Nurse With Wound, as well.

Not at all keen on names that are acronyms.

W.K.

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Quote from: Keruben on November 18, 2022, 12:10:48 AM
Answering to W.K: Without being too condescending, this post feels somewhat ill-conceived. The name of a project is the key to its existence both in the material world and on the metaphysical plane.

Yeah sorry, was in a bad mood, shouldn't have posted my post. Of course its totally a valid point to discuss, so I say: discuss on...

Although sometimes I feel like artists are painting themself to much in a corner by choosing a name that may sounds really cool early on, but then becoming limited by the aesthetics they can achieve or the imagery that is projected by that certain name. Sometimes it can be really good and on-point, but when you get older it also can feel juvenile and a bit wankery at times. Do we honestly need 50 project names that relate to death in any way? I think I prefer people's names now. More humble, not too much on-the-nose, it shows you are respecting your art rather than choosing a name because it's cool and you might be up for a something totally different from the last project, which can be either good or bad, but at least a surprise can be better than repeating the old.

Maybe I an just becoming an grumpy oldfart.

That said, I still hope someday does a P.E. project in the style of One Life Crew.
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Manhog_84

Not every band name has to be genius like Xenophobic Ejaculation, but some names are just badly chosen or too goofy. For example The New Boyfriends. No matter how great the noise would be, off-putting name doesn't make me want to buy their albums or even listen what kind of material they are releasing. Same goes for many projects listed in the first post. Terässinfonia compilations are great and work as a whole, but I probably wont get some of the artists own releases just because of the chosen name.