Victory Or Valhalla!

[andy vomit]

It's not that I thought that Fusty was anti political noise (of either side), and more that I don't recall there being many overtly political projects on his roster?

Sarin Snow? Koufar?

not to mention the left leaning stuff like support unit, stress orphan, controlled opposition, etc

[Balor/SS1535]

It's not that I thought that Fusty was anti political noise (of either side), and more that I don't recall there being many overtly political projects on his roster?

Sarin Snow? Koufar? I would assume generally most good noise labels agree on noise. Plantation "Orion" tape, if you listen the tape (rip found from youtube if you don't have it), it should be no surprising at all that it qualified for tape release. On that release, content doesn't appear to be anything utterly unusual in category of power electronics. If assuming it was mostly bought by people into loud obnoxious noise-with-vocals contemporary PE, I'd suspect very few if anyone would have problem to own such tape, hah... Lets say, next to other loud and obnoxious tapes Fusty is known for.

Like I said, it's been a while since I dug through his catalog---most of what I buy from his label tend to be the anonymous one-off projects that are often overlooked/ignored (not to mention bought years late!).

I need to listen to the Orion tape again.  For some reason I remember it being a lot more mellow that his other releases/PE generally, but we already know that my memory is not the be trusted!

[Balor/SS1535]

A lot of the PEAC artists are really solid (Plantation and Training Compound in particular I enjoy a lot), but the bad ones, even if they're only tangentially affiliated (BN comes to mind) are REALLY bad, and I can see why someone would dismiss that circle of people as a whole if they heard one of the bad ones on first exposure.

I get why people would dismiss them because of the imagery but the Plantation tape on fusty is still one of the sickest releases from that year

I didn't realize that tape was on Fusty!  Or that he would release projects of that political persuasion...

There was some interview he did a few years ago where he basically said "i don't give a fuck what your beliefs are because they aren't mine, all that matters is if you make good art", so i'm not too too surprised between that and some of the other stuff he's put out over the years haha. That said, the tape he did for them is WAY more toned down than their usual fare in terms of explicit imagery and subject matter. It's also far and away my favorite Plantation release, so make of that what you will

It's not that I thought that Fusty was anti political noise (of either side), and more that I don't recall there being many overtly political projects on his roster?  Then again, I am no great expert on that label, and it's been a while since I last looked closely through his releases.

Do you have a link to the interview (assuming it's online)?

And yes, that Plantation was much less explicit than usual!  It makes me wonder how many people are unaware of just what sort of project they were adding to their collections!

It can get pretty overt in its politics (that new Reaper release he did comes to mind especially) but it seems to be a slightly more recent thing? At least from what I've seen.

Also I found the interview, i didn't find the exact timestamp but the whole thing is really interesting anyways so it's worth a complete listen imo: https://archive.org/details/Episode4Deterge

I'm sure plenty of people had no idea (and probably still don't), for the best probably

Thanks!

[W.K.]

fuck this racist horseshit

The title "Synthesizer As Flammenwerfer" did gave me a chuckle though. Hans, get ze flammenwerfer!

[Commander15]

A lot of the PEAC artists are really solid (Plantation and Training Compound in particular I enjoy a lot), but the bad ones, even if they're only tangentially affiliated (BN comes to mind) are REALLY bad, and I can see why someone would dismiss that circle of people as a whole if they heard one of the bad ones on first exposure.

I get why people would dismiss them because of the imagery but the Plantation tape on fusty is still one of the sickest releases from that year

I didn't realize that tape was on Fusty!  Or that he would release projects of that political persuasion...

There was some interview he did a few years ago where he basically said "i don't give a fuck what your beliefs are because they aren't mine, all that matters is if you make good art", so i'm not too too surprised between that and some of the other stuff he's put out over the years haha. That said, the tape he did for them is WAY more toned down than their usual fare in terms of explicit imagery and subject matter. It's also far and away my favorite Plantation release, so make of that what you will

It's not that I thought that Fusty was anti political noise (of either side), and more that I don't recall there being many overtly political projects on his roster?  Then again, I am no great expert on that label, and it's been a while since I last looked closely through his releases.

Do you have a link to the interview (assuming it's online)?

And yes, that Plantation was much less explicit than usual!  It makes me wonder how many people are unaware of just what sort of project they were adding to their collections!

It can get pretty overt in its politics (that new Reaper release he did comes to mind especially) but it seems to be a slightly more recent thing? At least from what I've seen.

Also I found the interview, i didn't find the exact timestamp but the whole thing is really interesting anyways so it's worth a complete listen imo: https://archive.org/details/Episode4Deterge

I'm sure plenty of people had no idea (and probably still don't), for the best probably

Thank you for posting this link, haven't heard Harsh Truths episodes before and at least this episode is really interesting. The talk about people coming to noise scene from punk / hardcore and their tendency of trying to change the noise scene into ideologically and morally homogenized mess was particulary interesting and pretty on point.

[opacaluce]

A lot of the PEAC artists are really solid (Plantation and Training Compound in particular I enjoy a lot), but the bad ones, even if they're only tangentially affiliated (BN comes to mind) are REALLY bad, and I can see why someone would dismiss that circle of people as a whole if they heard one of the bad ones on first exposure.

I get why people would dismiss them because of the imagery but the Plantation tape on fusty is still one of the sickest releases from that year

I didn't realize that tape was on Fusty!  Or that he would release projects of that political persuasion...

considering that they seem to be on the same comp, it may make sense
https://www.discogs.com/release/8949957-Various-Power-Electronics-Against-Communism

[Balor/SS1535]

A lot of the PEAC artists are really solid (Plantation and Training Compound in particular I enjoy a lot), but the bad ones, even if they're only tangentially affiliated (BN comes to mind) are REALLY bad, and I can see why someone would dismiss that circle of people as a whole if they heard one of the bad ones on first exposure.

I get why people would dismiss them because of the imagery but the Plantation tape on fusty is still one of the sickest releases from that year

I didn't realize that tape was on Fusty!  Or that he would release projects of that political persuasion...

considering that they seem to be on the same comp, it may make sense
https://www.discogs.com/release/8949957-Various-Power-Electronics-Against-Communism

Interesting---never noticed that before.

[Lazrs3]

What fascinates me with this label is (mentioning no names) person behind label was behind a well known U.S. Power Electronics project that to me was an excellent project. Curious to know what they would do that, dissapaear off grid and do an obcure label like this. Was it a result of the politics of the label's projects that he vanished and did this instead, did at some point he just become politically inclined in the same vein as the label and disapear? I haven't heard anything by the label, but am curious and have to ask are they really that way, or is it just for shock?