NOISE RELATED RANDOM TALK TOPIC

Started by FreakAnimalFinland, August 05, 2024, 09:53:12 AM

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Into_The_Void

Speaking of shipping problems....does anyone in EU know if, in the end, the retarded law of recycling and Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) fees has been rediscussed? I am really astonished by such absurdity.
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impulse manslaughter

I read somewhere they are trying to postpone this new law and make an exception for small companies. Not sure what the exact status is..

host body

Obviously they will fix it sooner rather than later. No small business will have to pay a fine.

FreakAnimalFinland

This seemed to be outcome right from the start. Even companies that specialize on packaging, had no clue what they should do, and neither had authorities who was supposed to help with it.

EU is very very busy in making regulations that are nearly impossible to monitor. Remember several labels being in panic about EU safety regulations? Probably not on small scale grassroot level, but there was number of german labels saying they can no longer distribute any albums that do not have barcodes that indicate safety regulations are covered. "Whatever dude. You can buy, but you don't have to".
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FreakAnimalFinland

While the waste directives seemed something that isn't going to happen anytime soon, new e-commerce regulations will probably strongly impact underground culture too.

https://ieu-monitoring.com/editorial/eu-parliament-makes-e-commerce-platforms-liable-for-imports-in-customs-reform/1249923

* E-commerce platforms sending parcels from outside EU directly to EU consumers will be treated as responsible importers

* New handling fee for goods ordered directly from non-EU countries to come into effect on 1 November 2026 at the latest

* EU-wide IT system called Data Hub to replace more than 111 current systems
New EU customs authority to be established in Lille

On Wednesday, MEPs approved a major reform of the EU Customs Code that introduces stricter rules for e-commerce and establishes a new customs authority.

The new rules establish a handling fee for each item bought from non-EU web shops and sent directly to EU consumers. This will help cover the ever-increasing cost of managing the avalanche of individual parcels. The handling fee will be paid by the same entity responsible for paying other customs charges for the same parcel, to avoid shifting the cost to consumers. The exact amount of the handling fee will be determined by the European Commission and will be revised every two years to keep it proportional to the actual costs. Member states will start collecting the fee at the latest from 1 November 2026.


I would suspect that many smaller webstores will shut down EU orders, since it may not be economical or possible to program stores to charge automatically all the fees that should be applied. Already now I noticed UK label mention couriers would not take packages to carry unless all these things are paid in advance.

I have my doubts if someone who runs webstore OUTSIDE EU, is willing to join into system to pay taxes & fees into another country or even continent. I have had hard time explaining people that even I have to pay taxes to all different EU countries where I sell, and now this starts to apply also non-EU dealer who wish to sell direct to EU citizen. I would suspect shipping small orders/items outside EU will be completely pointless after all fees are added.

TOTAL underground publishers, who still send as gift, don't pay taxes etc, impact to them might happen in other ways. Especially when whole aim of this change is to favor big import, storaging goods within EU, etc  reducing small import and private micro business will certainly have some side-effects of this process.
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absurdexposition

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on Today at 09:20:36 AMWhile the waste directives seemed something that isn't going to happen anytime soon, new e-commerce regulations will probably strongly impact underground culture too.

https://ieu-monitoring.com/editorial/eu-parliament-makes-e-commerce-platforms-liable-for-imports-in-customs-reform/1249923

* E-commerce platforms sending parcels from outside EU directly to EU consumers will be treated as responsible importers

* New handling fee for goods ordered directly from non-EU countries to come into effect on 1 November 2026 at the latest

* EU-wide IT system called Data Hub to replace more than 111 current systems
New EU customs authority to be established in Lille

On Wednesday, MEPs approved a major reform of the EU Customs Code that introduces stricter rules for e-commerce and establishes a new customs authority.

The new rules establish a handling fee for each item bought from non-EU web shops and sent directly to EU consumers. This will help cover the ever-increasing cost of managing the avalanche of individual parcels. The handling fee will be paid by the same entity responsible for paying other customs charges for the same parcel, to avoid shifting the cost to consumers. The exact amount of the handling fee will be determined by the European Commission and will be revised every two years to keep it proportional to the actual costs. Member states will start collecting the fee at the latest from 1 November 2026.


I would suspect that many smaller webstores will shut down EU orders, since it may not be economical or possible to program stores to charge automatically all the fees that should be applied. Already now I noticed UK label mention couriers would not take packages to carry unless all these things are paid in advance.

I have my doubts if someone who runs webstore OUTSIDE EU, is willing to join into system to pay taxes & fees into another country or even continent. I have had hard time explaining people that even I have to pay taxes to all different EU countries where I sell, and now this starts to apply also non-EU dealer who wish to sell direct to EU citizen. I would suspect shipping small orders/items outside EU will be completely pointless after all fees are added.

TOTAL underground publishers, who still send as gift, don't pay taxes etc, impact to them might happen in other ways. Especially when whole aim of this change is to favor big import, storaging goods within EU, etc  reducing small import and private micro business will certainly have some side-effects of this process.


The private alternative companies here in Canada at least are always on top of things and are able to adapt to these changes quickly. I suspect these companies will soon announce the measures they are taking to help sellers handle this as seamlessly as possible. Already for the most recent regulation changes everything was in place and ready to go for upfront fee collection on the day it was to go into effect.

I imagine it will be a mess with Canada Post and USPS (potentially even UPS, FedEx, etc) temporarily suspending EU shipments while they sort out how to handle everything. Canada Post previously suspended EU shipments when other recent regulations came into effect in recent months.

I'd encourage Canadian sellers using Canada Post to look for Stallion or Chit Chats locations in their regions and make the switch if possible.

https://ship.stallion.ca/register/rzmK06 
https://chitchats.com/r/243955


At least for the most recent round of fee implementation it was relatively easy to reduce to a manageable cost by keeping the line item count down. For example instead of listing each CD as a separate line, write them all as one line and use the average cost per price per item. Doing this meant I only had to raise shipping costs by CA$2 (1,25eu) and the fees were covered.
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