Creating noise etc vs. distraction

Started by FreakAnimalFinland, July 13, 2025, 09:47:53 AM

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FreakAnimalFinland

I was reading new Agonist Sounds #1 zine and Analfabetism was talking about his fairly prolific output in recent years, explaining that he doesn't own TV, nor smartphone, lives in countryside without much happening but bunch of cats in the house. There wasn't massive manifests about how much of it is intentional, somehow conscious decision and how much it is just not being interested in what things like constant presence of social media etc can cause.

Already more than decade ago I did conscious decision that I don't want to live with big screen TV taking attention in the living room. I do have TV, but there is designated space, to watch it. Meaning basically only movies. You go to small TV room, with nothing else there, and TV is for those moments only. Other times, there is no reason to be in the room and there is never moments of "hmmm.. what's on the telly right now". Haven't done that since... 90's probably.

I know a lot of guys who make conscious decision to leave specific social media platforms, just because they know addictive nature of reels and picture feeds and know they'll "accidentally" spend even hours, just browsing without even intent to find anything. I know only couple who do not want smart phone, just because they keep it to level that distractions are minimal. People can reach them, but that's enough.

I mentioned in the "quitting noise" topic, that it seems clear that the environment and conditions one creates, effect how you live. If one has tapes and records boxed away, somewhere is basement, and stereo system reserved into corner of sad mancave, then the so called "normal life" may indeed be dominated by what is the actual living space like. So arrangement where things one wants to do is prioritized, instead of what is sort of automatic expectation of society right now, seems not only obvious, but simple way to do it.

Of course, there are so many other things to do in life that its not all about listening noise records, or making of noise, but I am curious if people have been making these conscious adjustments and what are the effects of it? Like guys who removed themselves from IG or something, when nonstop stream of semi-naked ladies stopped, are you doing something creative or more rewarding? Reading, listening albums, making something etc?

I did conscious choice of even limiting use of computer only to "working hours" so to say. I don't need computer open all day every day, so replying emails may have been slower for decade or so, but they'll get done. Just on designated time and place, not in form of distraction where I need to quit what I'm doing any time I hear email arrival sound, in pavlovian response style, hah..

Do I get more things done? Who knows. It is perhaps just more quality of being somewhat more immersed into particular thing, when there is focus on that.
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I feel like being away from (non-recording) tech/screens definitely helps, unless you have one for "inspiration". Have recently taken up recording outdoors even, setting up in abandoned horse farms and dirt fields which honestly boosted the mood and intensity of recordings.

Being someone with a shitty attention span is awful when recording in living room while someone is watching TV. I end up looking at whatever's on the screen than my own gear. Now, if I'm recording at home I just set up in my room. No TV, laptop is hardly in use, just phone mic set up to capture whatever it is I'm doing. Can't check Instagram at the risk of fucking up a take, eh?

Atrophist

I have a television, but it is for watching films on VHS/DVD/BR only. As well as, "cough cough" movie files that, well, somehow ended up on my computer.

I don't even know how to get "regular TV" on my TV, if I wanted to, which I don't. A few times in recent years when staying at hotels etc. I've turned on the television and then turned it off in despair five minutes later.

Getting rid of TV is the easy bit. The problem with social media is that it is useful for some things. Contacting people, messaging people, promoting shows etc. But it is also undeniable that it is deliberately designed to rot your brain, hack your mind and turn you into some kind of biological spambot, a living extension of some social media algorithm.

I think the choice of not owning a smartphone may be a good one. Will probably go for that next time I need a new phone. Although, thank heavens, I'm not one of those people who are addicted to their phones to the degree that they are even unable to walk to from one spot to another without staring at it.

Even if these limitations people place on their online use are artificial/arbitrary, they still help and I'd encourage anyone to try them. Limit the number of devices you own, or only use them at work etc. Whatever works for you. Whenever I finish a good book or a productive recording/editing session, I never feel like that time would have been better spent mindlessly scrolling insta.

EXU

We don't get street cred points nowadays for not watching TV, times have changed, oldschool tv watching is for "old people" and we get our stream buffets (without anything really nutritious most of the time).

Atrophist

Dude, I am old. And still don't watch TV. Do I get my street cred now?

becomeanddie

I'm 20 years old, so I'd say for me personally, at this point everything feels like a distraction. Literally a couple of years ago I was in high-school, and at that time, interacting, creating and maintaining a passion for music entirely revolved around using my phone/computer. Spotify, bandcamp, soundcloud to listen to what I wanted to, instagram to find and follow new artists or bands or even promote my own, and use some sort of DAW to record.
It's not like I didn't have CDs or vinyls, nor did I think there was anything wrong with it, but that was like a sub-category of liking music for me at the time.
I think interacting on that basis is entirely a distraction now along with TV shows, video games, social media, etc. Interacting with everyting via screens distracts from any sort of real connection. It's too removed and too fast moving to actually have any bandwidth.
Yes, I can get distracted, literally, by going to other things that aren't my primary focus but then when I am interacting with my primary focus through these minature versions... how focused am I?
But getting physical media in the mail, putting in the player and listening is nothing at all what using spotify is like. I just have to be in the moment with it, and for me I'm trying to do that more and more.
Because for my generation, we all got instagram at like age 13 or earlier, and it's all been distraction street since. So going as far as trying to use all other means of getting to real life is useful for making noise because for me, noise is as cerebral as it gets.
And of course, I will still listen to albums on youtube, still listen on bandcamp, be on instagram, etc to get shows done or to want to see what's new noise or do research on noise/pe without having to find and spend lots money is great for me. But when things need to be locked in, needs to be as physical or focused as I can get in the circumstances.
Not only am I more in connection with why I make noise, but also what I want, and how I want it to be when I try to find distractions and destroy them.
Even DAW seemed distracting for me, or VST's, or too many pedals. Of course, not everyone is like that or needs to be but broader thing is, less distractions = better noise.

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Quote from: EXU on July 14, 2025, 03:04:35 AMWe don't get street cred points nowadays for not watching TV

Just as well no one made that claim.
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Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on July 14, 2025, 01:23:29 PM
Quote from: EXU on July 14, 2025, 03:04:35 AMWe don't get street cred points nowadays for not watching TV

Just as well no one made that claim.

Speak for yourself. Might I mention that I get massive street cred galore through my incredibly contrary stance wrt the watching of the TV, eg. NOT.
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Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on July 14, 2025, 05:39:29 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on July 14, 2025, 01:23:29 PM
Quote from: EXU on July 14, 2025, 03:04:35 AMWe don't get street cred points nowadays for not watching TV

Just as well no one made that claim.

Speak for yourself. Might I mention that I get massive street cred galore through my incredibly contrary stance wrt the watching of the TV, eg. NOT.

I stand corrected.
Shikata ga nai.

Stipsi

In my specific situation, it's not about any kind of distraction,it's about inspiration.
If it's a period I'm not inspired, there's nothing to do. I'm unable to put shit together unless i try to be focused.
And if i try, everything sounds like crap to my ears
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I wish I had your problems guys. I am in the opposite camp - if I am in the middle of creating a song (for example, recorded audio and am halfway through writing lyrics) then THIS is the only thing I can think of. THIS is a distraction from everything else in life. There is no way I can focus on a movie or a book if I know I have music to finish.
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