Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 06, 2026, 10:14:46 PMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on July 05, 2026, 08:15:55 PMA very interesting topic---especially in bringing forward some areas of overlap for several users here.
Filth & Violence became an early favorite for these reasons. I think the label and associated projects are sold short fairly often when people characterize them as brutal, crude, etc. when they actually consistently developed in increasingly complex ways.
While I read above that we are not meant to talk about thwarted expectations, I did mention some frustration in my post here.
More hoping that instead of expectations,
Preferred not to talk only about.. hmm disappointments. Hah. But sometimes there is a bit of that too.
Related to this, sometime 2008 or so, I was sitting in NYC and there was noise playing at stereos. I didn't choose what was being played. One veteran level label boss had been listening and went "uhm.. this is good! What is it?" and guy reponsible of stereos says BIZARRE UPROAR GELSOMINA collaboration CD! And man says nothing, look away.
Hah. Expectation was clearly two things: 1) This great noise must be made by someone great. 2) The finn noise boneheads can not be good. When blind hearing sort of proved both expectation being incorrect, reaction was sort of funny. Not like this would be some sort of injustice if BU's musical merits are not acknowledged. I would say some artists in noise indeed are way way way beyond possibility of being positively recognized beyond the mileau where their work happens.
ha I couldn't really help myself there. Sometimes I think we only realize our expectations when something gets in the way of them, unfortunately (as the story you relate here also suggests!).
Your story also brings up another expectation that I had in the past as well, though a bit more of a peripheral one for me---expectation might even be too strong of a word for it, actually. When exploring noise early on, I was sort of surprised by the importance of theme/concept for noise music. Of course, it's obvious why it is important and interesting, but I would have thought there would be more people taking a sort of "sound object" approach to listening where there is only focus on "the sounds themselves" and not what they are packaged with.
Maybe these people exist, but I don't encounter them too much. It also makes me wonder who, if anyone, is really doing "content-less" noise today?
