Quote from: heretogo on August 16, 2011, 08:16:17 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 11, 2011, 07:14:39 PM
Where is the money spent by antiracists...?
Oh yeah, the bikers and boneheads are the ones in dire need of goverment funding. I'm sure the money wouldn't be spent on whores, guns, drugs & steroids... Anyway, the street-level anti-fascists (& related) don't generally get much public funding for their activities (beyond their personal social security, hah!). Sometimes the city might be "generous" with the squatted spaces but that's about it. Mostly the money comes from private individuals, rich & not-so-rich. And it's often spent on oh-so-sexy things as helping Romani gypsies get medicalcare. It's maybe not something you agree with but you might be surprised by what's actually being done.
I mentioned that those people have organized money raising benefit things, for purpose (not their own), and as far as I know, given it forward. And this is the thugs and thieves. I didn't say they would need funding from anyone.
Nowadays it's not so much about one-issue-organizations. In helsinki, it's not really "antifa" who have profiled with the gypsy issue, but wider social movement with plenty of issues and goals and actually also doing things.
Of course in Finland no longer really exists antifa, so how they used to be funded and what they used to do with this money is nowadays quite irrelevant here, but perhaps not in other countries? How many fascists did they stop and how many victims of fascism they may have helped out? Where funds of resources were spent?
I was very close to all groups in Lahti years ago, and I believe funds were received, plenty of benefit shows were held. Youth center and employment office paid the workers. And what was done? I recall nothing really, but weekly meetings focusing on hanging out. I worked in the center with state paid salary. Even in case when near by fur farm shotgun action took place, it had nothing to do with local Oikeutta Eläimille or Animalia (both operated from same center), but was couple exciting days with lots of phonecalls. One could calculate the costs and energy of entire activism, and come to conclusion that why not friends just gather at some friends house for tea, if that's what you do. It's different if they do good things that have good effect. I don't think this t-shirt stunt nor anything I've personally seen, belongs to such category. Alternative social security for welfare sounds entirely different, regardless how I may personally feel about it.
