PHARMAKON on WFMU's Beware of the Blog

Started by Arvo, September 02, 2011, 05:35:44 AM

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FreakAnimalFinland

lets make this as PHARMAKON topic in general. New CD?! Anyone?! I don't remember single comment about it!
Sacred Bones Records put out LP/CD/digital file. Never been in touch with label, but I guess I should as I haven't really seen copies circulating anywhere...?
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eyestrain

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 01, 2013, 02:45:39 PM
New CD?! Anyone?!

Just my plebeian opinion (and not too familiar with her work), but versus the label brief and all the praising reviews...this did nothing for me. A regular beef of mine, its PE that's too song-based, too much ego-centered and the vocals are just blah-shrieks. Sounds themselves have some moments, but nothing worth returning to. But, it's on Sacred Bones, and they receive endless praise so I'm sure we'll see lots of "top 10 album of the year" since so many folks will grab this from Insound, Amazon and Boomkat.

Half Aborted

Quote from: eyestrain on September 02, 2013, 01:27:18 AMJust my plebeian opinion (and not too familiar with her work), but versus the label brief and all the praising reviews...this did nothing for me. A regular beef of mine, its PE that's too song-based, too much ego-centered and the vocals are just blah-shrieks. Sounds themselves have some moments, but nothing worth returning to. But, it's on Sacred Bones, and they receive endless praise so I'm sure we'll see lots of "top 10 album of the year" since so many folks will grab this from Insound, Amazon and Boomkat.

Very much agreed. I had to laugh at all the reviews along the lines of "this is actually highly composed and no random freeform racket" when compositionally it's pretty simplistic, which is no bad thing in itself but why pretend it's so much more accomplished than something more structurally loose (which is no bad thing in itself either). Some decent sounds on it and I do like her voice, especially when it's less processed, but totally undeserving of crossover success when compared to better albums, though all my problems with it are probably why it has enjoyed the coverage it has gotten.

GEWALTMONOPOL

I am yet to hear Pharmakon but the interview she did with some bullshit online mag (probaby Pitchfork) was good.
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fin de siècle

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There is a big hype going on about this project. That short interview/article in Pitchfork made people click her soundcloud sample 100.000+ times : ) ...

The track "Crawling On Bruised Knees" is amazing, but the rest of the album is in my opinion rather uninspired "scream drone".

https://soundcloud.com/sacredbones/pharmakon-crawling-on-bruised

Fact: Good looking girl screaming around turns people on ...

eyestrain

Quote from: fin de siècle on September 02, 2013, 12:25:40 PM
Fact: Good looking girl screaming around turns people on ...

This sums up my feelings about the project's hype

Lazrs3

There's the Pitchfork interview: http://pitchfork.com/features/rising/9091-pharmakon/

Got an mp3 of the album, was gonna review it at Heathen Harvest, but someone pipped me to it, will play it as I have it on my 'to listen to' list..

Lazrs3

It's really good in parts, there are some big dramatic build ups, but in other parts I didn't like it as much , I'd like to hear some earlier material and gain a bigger picture.

tinnitustimulus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUjjWaQgVo

My favorite Pharmakon and probably her noisiest track, also collaboration with Work/Death is highly suggested.

I was fan when I first saw her at her first show so maybe I'm bias, but I love her live presence. What she hasn't put on record but has performed live has driven me crazy, especially things she was doing early last year. I played Abandon a number of times and enjoy it but I like the cdrs better. I have to say though I saw her perform Abandon is a very good PA and a very bad PA, and honestly I prefered the bad PA performance to her chagrin. It's very clean production for a death industrial album, perhaps if rerecord on to gained out tape deck i would like it a lot more.

Cementimental

"Crawling On Bruised Knees" just sounds like a dubstep intro that never drops. :D

Duncan

I don't think anyone has done that.  Reading through the thread most people seem to have listened to the entire record and are just using youtube clips as reference points.

But yes, the 'attractive female' aspect of a project like this will, sadly, serve as an equal foundation for both its hype and dismissal.


FreakAnimalFinland

There is always a lot of people, who will have some sort of reasoning why people listen to stuff, what is supposedly the wrong reason. Be it band who comes from Japan, bands who has swastika on tape cover, band who has grotesque porn in cover, or someone happens to be woman, band what is old and therefore only gets attention because of nostalgia, etc etc. And conclusion is that "people wouldn't care about if it was just the music".

Yet reality remains that it hardly ever just music, and it doesn't need to be rational. Something caught our attention, while dozens of others didn't. As I'm not in facebook, nor take part in other forums (after noisefanatics ended don't see much noise talk elsewhere), nor I follow any "indie media", so I was quite unaware of any hype surrounding Pharmakon album. Seen exactly zero comments, haven't seen on noise/industrial labels lists etc.

I have personally felt that Pharmakon sound has always been plagued by too obvious digital effects, and has very clean "line in" sound. Sometimes even glitchy. However, I'm curious to check out full album if there are qualities that allow to get over the style sound. I'm quite sure it improves greatly in live situation with loud & dirtier sound.

I think any noise band who manages to cross over the tiny circles of noisescene - by whatever means - is welcomed! I'm sure some people were cautious of Merzbow being promoted to metalheads by metal label, but ended up contributing strongly to creation of new generation of noise fans.
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Bloated Slutbag

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 09, 2013, 09:24:19 AM
Yet reality remains that it hardly ever just music

I think mileage will vary for a given value of "sustained interest", no pun obviously intended.

And there are some damned lengthy youtube clips.
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WineVomit

I like the LP, I'd like to hear more material... I have the split with Deterge and the Pharmakon side doesn't do a lot for me, but then flip it over to Deterge's side and it crushes Pharmakon's material, ha. Saw Pharmakon live on that Lust For Youth tour, and it sounded good. Especially in the shitty enviornment/last minute set up... She looked mentally exhausted after the set.