Korpses Katatonik

[bitewerksMTB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvXlCLFzS4I&feature=related

Just ordered the Oeuvres Complètes  cd from Malignant after checking the above link out along with a couple of others. All sounds good. Other than being familiar with the name, I do not think I had heard anything from them. The three tracks I've heard all vary in style; the above link sounding very SPK-like. Another is pretty close to being power electronics, & another is acoustic/ritual/electronics.

The track that has some PE elements: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKlh2_38Ie8&feature=relmfu

[ghoulson]

Korpses Katatonik should be mandatory listening for everyone into death industrial / power electronics history.
I got a tape with "Sensitive Liberated Autistiks" in mid/late 90s from Proiekt Hat and think I've listened to it more than any other tape in my collection. One of the few bands that I really worship...
Good to see there is a new CD with these works - the one that Staalplaat put out is usually sold for insane prices.

[Black_Angkar]

Agreed. I had mostly heard a few tracks here and there, and some mp3's before I bought the cd reissue, odd since this kind of industrial is my absolute favorite. Brilliant and the Oeuvres Completes is absolutely worth buying.

[Bloated Slutbag]

Korpses Katatonik first came to my attention via the Beast 666 comp. And along with the likes of (Beast 666 mates) Stigma Diaboli represent a certain kind of dirge-flavored ritual music I absolutely adore; and which was obviously a sound much en vogue among a host of (primarily euro) artists operating in the early 80's industrial sphere.  (I'd have started another thread on the subject if I weren't afraid of being ridiculed again by The Librarian, heh.) A random YouTube trawl for Tibetan ritual music would net something along the same lines, particularly recordings dating from the same period or - better - much earlier. For me, the muffled recording quality is a key part of the charm; of the sense of striving (beyond one's means), or of authenticity, ritual or otherwise... (this could well be linked to the Devotional Music thread). While I haven't directly encountered discussion on this point, it seems like the sort of thing that would be discussed on forums likes these; KK is precisely the kind of music that leaps to mind whenever I see the phrase "industrial recollections"...

KK and SD, of course, took things further, FILTHING things up a few notches to say the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiXcfsR6oMo
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe3uzt_stigma-diaboli-sodomie-animal_music

Still to this day I love that, on the "track that has some PE elements" to which bitewerksMTB refers, KK had the balls to, well... essentially, to belch over an extended unedited snippet from Diamanda Galas' Litanies of Satan. And call it art. Or ritual. Or Choronzon. Or whatever. Brilliant.

Compare

KK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKlh2_38Ie8&feature=relmfu

DG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbTAF0e2scc

On the latter, jump to six minutes or so...

[ghoulson]

Bloated: . I have listened much to both of these recordings but never seen the connection before... it's obvious when comparing.
I would say everything from Nekrophile Rekords is worth listening to. Most essential are the two compilations, KK and Zero Kama. I think the worst is Genesis P-Orridge / Stan Bingo.
Stigma Diaboli material is great - it's a pity I never found anything with them besides some compilation tracks. Anyone know more about them?According to discogs they consist of "Heinker & Morpho"??? Need to track down the Bain Total Germany comptape.

[bitewerksMTB]

No clue why I have never picked up Beast 666. I think I associated KK with TOPY so I just ignored everything. For Zero Kama, I only have the 10". Would love to own the LP because of the use of bones but nothing I've heard from the record sounds like what I want bones to sound like. Is there a proper reiss of it? Listening to the Stigma Diaboli track now & it's good.

re: Diamanda Galas- I thought there was something that sounded familiar!

I've tried to do work similiar to KK, etc. Basically creepy, raw atmosphere but it never works out. Sounds good while I'm recording but listening later, it just stinks.

Anyone know why some of the Beast666 artists are not on the cd reissue?

This SD track with whipping, crying, static, weird, delayed vocals is pretty fantastic.

[Zeno Marx]

Book of Wisdom - Catacombs might be something to investigate.  I love everything about that album, but the recording quality, or muted lack thereof, is a key element in making it feel ritualistic.  It dabbles in a few different types of music, but I find it cohesive and that it travels well.

[Strömkarlen]

Anyone know why some of the Beast666 artists are not on the cd reissue?

Copyright issues. When Staalplaat bought the masters and started to plan for the re-release they got an angry letter from Coil saying. STOP!

[Brad]

I'm surprised Solielmoon is going ahead with the Sickness of Snakes reissue.

[Bloated Slutbag]

Stigma Diaboli material is great - it's a pity I never found anything with them besides some compilation tracks. Anyone know more about them? According to discogs they consist of "Heinker & Morpho"???

I would wager that Stigma Diaboli is a Fichot / Die Form side project. A fairly wild wager, I'll concede, but if I may offer a couple observations by way of support:

1. Going with the limited info to be found online, SD only appears on compilations from Bain Total, Fichot's now-defunct label. (Most if not all contributors to the first Bain Total comp, Germany (1983), would seem to be Fichot projects).
2.  Die Form has a track entitled "Stigma Diaboli" on the never-officially-released Independent World vol.2 comp (1985), one year after Stigma Diaboli's (last known?) appearance - on the massive Bain Total comp, Sex & Bestiality (1984). DF's "Stigma Diaboli" does tend to resemble Stigma Diaboli's "Sodomie Animal", at least in the opening minutes.
3. The same (female?) shrieking can be heard in both DF's "Stigma Diaboli" (Independent World vol.2) and, more prominently, their "Passion & Supplice" (Sex & Bestiality). If this shrieking were to be loaded with piles of echo, you might well get something very much like the Stigma Diaboli Beast 666 track. But. I could well be hallucinating these likenesses. In fact, I kind of hope I'm wrong given the direction DF eventually took... Apologies, but no YouTube to back me up this time, heh.

In any case. When talking 80's ritual-dirge-industrial, willful obscurity certainly seems to go with the territory; one might even call that obscurity central to the aesthetic.

I have listened much to both of these recordings but never seen the connection before... it's obvious when comparing.

Oh the joys of YouTube. There are a couple of old Macronympha tracks that could do with similar scrutiny...

EDIT

I've tried to do work similiar to KK, etc. Basically creepy, raw atmosphere but it never works out.

There are times when I wouldn't think it too strange to imagine Mania working in a smiliar vein... Works for me!

[bitewerksMTB]

I think the SD tracks were missing from the Staalplaat reiss listing (haven't double-checked that).

The Die Form/SD connection makes sense. Maybe SD was their first project? I have no idea when DF started; I like the photography more than their music.