Why bother listen to Cut Hands?

Started by jangbi08, October 03, 2012, 06:41:32 AM

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jangbi08

I actually listen to cut hands a lot. But It feels like its digitally produced and doesnt include a lot
of noise.
Then i got to think "Why listen to cut hands if i can listen to real folk music"

Black_Angkar

Quote from: jangbi08 on October 03, 2012, 11:45:21 AM
I actually listen to cut hands a lot. But It feels like its digitally produced and doesnt include a lot
of noise.
Then i got to think "Why listen to cut hands if i can listen to real folk music"

Cut Hands aren't folk music to begin with.

I think I was more positive before as well. Some tracks I actually like very much (Welcome to the feast of Trumpets is great), but some points made on this forum made me revalue some of this projects qualities (such as "what is the connection to afro beyond multiple layers of drumming, wouldn't this be better suited with a variation of drums insetad ofg drum machines).

FreakAnimalFinland

I think WB said in that interview that it is his music. It is not "world music" or "tribal music".
If one looks for tribal music, it's mistake to think WB will offer it for you. He will offer you Cut Hands songs.

Some of the stuff I listened sounded actually surprisingly close to some "tribal percussion" stuff of Test Dept. I am personally turned off by sharp computer production, yet I can see why this would appeal perhaps to much wider audience than Whitehouse did.
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kettu

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 03, 2012, 12:19:54 PM
I think WB said in that interview that it is his music. It is not "world music" or "tribal music".

im almost sure that one song I heard had skin drums lifted from some other recording with another sound on top to make it "his own"

I like the idea and some of the artwork is pretty but havent heard anything that would merrit even an illegal download.

ImpulsyStetoskopu

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 03, 2012, 12:19:54 PM
I am personally turned off by sharp computer production, yet I can see why this would appeal perhaps to much wider audience than Whitehouse did.

The same impressions. The next collective hilarity, and sickness of a new classes "underground" society.

FreakAnimalFinland

WB says in that interview linked above (audio) that he doesn't intend to generate feeling of trance, rather blow up heads.
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martialgodmask

Quote from: theotherjohn on October 03, 2012, 12:54:22 PM
You're better off listening to the original influences IMO: http://www.factmag.com/2011/09/16/fact-mix-283-cut-hands/

Good to see that no matter where you look, user comments are as retarded...

Quote from: villagestar - a year agoYikes! hopefulleee he would distance himself from such remarks these days. Dont know much about Whitehouse, but I'm aware the "Power Electronics" scene still seems to be rife with highly dubious nazi fetishization/sentiments. People do wise up though. The mix is on it, pretty decent - maybe its a genuine move on from being a twat

This is just one mild example that reminded me of the shit flinging over on "the other forum". Funny that it's always the cunts who know little about a subject that shout the loudest or comment the most frequent.

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Quote from: martialgodmask on October 03, 2012, 01:44:14 PM
Funny that it's always the cunts who know little about a subject that shout the loudest or comment the most frequent.

And even if it would be true, why those people feel so bad with this knowledge? Why "nazi/pedo/satan" shaped artists are so hated by other? Yes, I know - the answer is: bad considered, fucking EMPATHY...

Back to the main topic, I think the weaknest side of CUT HANDS (I know only the first CD) is, what theotherjohn mentioned, lack of trance/tribal factor. Even if the main aim was blow up heads, there isn't such power like in CRASH WORSHIP music. Question is: if is possible create such tribal power by laptop operations, even if there was used natural sounds of ethnic instruments? I don't know any composer who could achieve this aim. Besides, I think that W. Bennett gave up with his music/art. Probably he refused his riot, his fire of the mind has gone...

Andrew McIntosh

Quote from: jangbi08 on October 03, 2012, 11:45:21 AM"Why listen to cut hands if i can listen to real folk music"

I get your point and would agree. Sampling can be seen as an art but as mentioned before, Bennett really isn't making much out of his choice of material, not that I've heard anyway.

Just to suggest - some Sun Ra live material has long, frantic percussion freak-outs that mix and match any number of traditional instruments/beats with their own, more modern influence that leave Cut Hands in the dust.
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Black_Angkar

Having read a few interviews with WB on the subject I think he has a much clearer agenda with the project than the actual sounds themselves. Hopefully he will develop this further, as I do think there are some excellent bits on the Cut Hands material, while it falls flat on others. I would like to see how it works live in the right environment as well.

FreakAnimalFinland

I appreciate very much the development Whitehouse had from album to another. Sound quality and overall style was progressing (or if not progressing, at least expanding). At some point in very last years, it suddenly stopped and couple final albums have pretty much identical sound quality and identical sonic elements. And this continued to Cut Hands. Obviously if some tracks was made to be for Whitehouse album, continuum is logical. Yet I'd hope this same kind of diversity of sound would start. Not just thinking different drum beats will do it, when the sound of these computer plug-ins flattens pretty much everything to be "the same". Of course that is valid criticism to many, but especially for those who end up in extremes of dry computer sound.
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STREETMEAT

Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on October 03, 2012, 11:13:28 PM
Quote from: jangbi08 on October 03, 2012, 06:41:32 AM

aren't middle eastern samples and instruments cheesy by now?

NOPE

you can get away with it. seeing a white guy using them live is a little chessy. but yet again i still use porn samples live from time to time...