Taint - Vice

[KMusselman]

Any chance of this getting the Industrial Recollections treatment?  Ever since the release on LP, I have been hoping for a CD release.  I am sure there are many who would agree.  If there was enough support, could we make it happen?

[Levas]

If I'm not mistaken, Mikko had talked with Keith about rereleasing Taint material already, but masters of most Taint material are gone etc. It's somewhere in the archives of the messageboard. So I wouldn't be too optimistic about it, but perhaps someone will explain it better than me

[FreakAnimalFinland]

Vice with 500 copies of LP's is probably not top priority re-issue thing anyways? Of course CD would be nice, but there are others that are way harder to get.

[bitewerksMTB]

I may actually have a metal tape master of "Vice" but I'd offer Self Abuse the cd if it were going to be reissued.  I think the record is still easy to get & it's 220g! Love the weight of it.

Kevin, get yourself a high-end turntable!

[bitewerksMTB]

Get yourself one of those turntables you can hook up to the pc via usb. I see them on the back of credit card envelopes all the time. You'll have a load of fun buying records, playing catch-up, looking at the big artwork, smelling the vinyl, etc.

Patrick recently told me he's just running a distro. I hadn't had contact with him in years. Glad he's still running things from a tiny, isolated NH town.

http://www.musicdirect.com/c-527-analog-gear.aspx

[Zeno Marx]

I have a high end "digital" only system.

If you already have a high-end system, you wouldn't want to skimp on a turntable and cartridge.  You might as well get a nice soundcard, plug your computer into your stereo, and listen to MP3s if you can't invest in a nice turntable (or preferably lossless if you can find nice rips of records.  they're easier and easier to find all the time).  Not saying you would, but if you have a nice system to start, and then add a low-end table, it'll stick out like a sore thumb.  It truly would.  I haven't done any shopping in a couple years, but entry level audiophile tables with entry level cartridges could be had for $400-500 total.  Maybe a Rega table with $150+ cartridge.  It's not really worth it for the poor sound quality of most new records, but anything pre-2000 will likely be something you can appreciate if you're accustomed to listening to a good quality stereo sound.

I'd recommend a ProJect table, but I haven't been satisfied with the durability of the motor at all.  I hear similar stories here and there, too.  It doesn't speak well for them, and if shopping now for a nice table, I'd avoid them.

[Zeno Marx]

I mentioned MP3s because budget turntable gear does a similar thing to audio that MP3 compression does.  At least to my ears, it does.  The outcome is harsh and thin, and you don't want your playback equipment to make that modification for you.  For the longest time, I thought my turntable set-up was decent.  I knew it wasn't good, but I thought it was firmly decent.  Then when I bumped up a couple levels and directly compared the tables, it showed how awful it really was.  The positive side of nice stereo gear is that it flushes out the nuances and gives the music new life, but on the other hand, it exposes all the shortcomings of your other gear.

I have a top of the line Rotel pre-amp, and it's phono stage leaves a lot to be desired.  It replaced a NAD 7240PE receiver, and the Rotel proved to be a downgrade.  Those old NADs are jewels in the ruff, though.  You have to get well into four figures to beat their sound, and they had particularly warm and smooth phono stages.

*your IntAmp is a few generations newer than my pre-amp, so hopefully they've improved the phono stage.

[Scat-O-Logy]

Kevin, get yourself a high-end turntable!

I know nothing about turntables and wouldn't even know where to start.

I have had my trusty old Technics SL-BD22D for almost ten years now and I fucking love how simple it is. It has auto lift, meaning it lifts the tonearm when the record stops and goes back to the stand automatically. It also has very simple stopping system, when you press the button the tonearm lifts and goes automatically to its stand (of course you can also lift the tonearm temporarily if you just want to pause it). The speed is also very easy to change, unlike in some record players where you have to change the place of the strap, you just switch the speed with a knob.
I have experienced many different record players, to name few Audiomeca with unipivot tonearm (~1000€), some Thorens players (~500€) and so on and I can honestly say that the cheap old plastic Technics is my personal choice. I bought it used with 15€, the needle got broken during the delivery and I walked in the closest hifi store and picked up a Tonar needle for ~20-30€.
Great player to begin with...

[bitewerksMTB]

I threw an idea to IR for a taint reissue that MAY happen so it's mildly possible something will be released in the future. I doubt "Vice" will happen as a cd. Just get yourself one of those turntables you can contact to pc with a usb cable.

[andy vomit]

reissue WHOREDOM!!

[ImpulsyStetoskopu]

reissue WHOREDOM!!

Although I have got that great CD, I wouldn't be disappointed that action. Especially, when the second edition would have the second disc with something not issued yet in that period. More reissued TAINT cassettes - more better feelings :)

[ConcreteMascara]

Pretty much any Taint reissue is a good choice. Though I have the original, I'd throw my vote in for the Nicole 12 & Taint - Candyman CD. Such brilliant material from all parties!

[bitewerksMTB]

I don't believe there are any other recordings from around the same time as "Whoredom". That cd is pretty easy to find & never seems like it goes for much.

"Indecent Liberties" is the only thing I've given thought to a cd reiss but masters do not exist so it'll have to be a clean rip from vinyl.

[SiClark]

"Indecent Liberties" is the only thing I've given thought to a cd reiss but masters do not exist so it'll have to be a clean rip from vinyl.

This would be a great re-issue if possible. I would love a copy of the vinyl but it's very expensive on Discogs.

[Dr Alex]

Somebody should release boxset of Taint compilation tracks and tracks from singles/b-cards.