Radicalisation in society

[online prowler]

Golden Dawn was for long small organization. In few years they suddenly grew to become... is it now 3rd biggest party in parliament?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(political_party)

Leadership of party is currently arrested under charges of forming criminal organization.

This was a bit time ago. I think also Greece is passing a law soon which bans right wing political activity. At least it have been discussed off late. What result this will bring is unclear, but probably it will force RW underground w a likely more militant outcome. Still waiting for the political violence from the '70s. I think it is just a matter of time. 

[Levas]

Jim Goad not that much about this case, but about extremes all in all

http://takimag.com/article/getting_a_grip_on_extremism_and_massaging_it_to_completion_jim_goad

[Eloy]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/01/us-greece-shooting-idUSBRE9A00WC20131101

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRsJuRshmKw

[Levas]

Correct your video link. it says video removed

[Scat-O-Logy]

Correct your video link. it says video removed

I was able to watch it yesterday. HERE'S same video. I'm sure you can also watch it from Best Gore in case this one gets deleted/banned as well.

[RG]

Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but whatever...

Have any of you been following the ongoing saga of Craig Cobb and his attempt to take over the small town of Leith, North Dakota and establish an all-white enclave? I've lived in ND my whole life and Leith is about 80 miles away from where I live. It's quite the story around here, and things are progressively getting worse and worse for Mr. Cobb and his plans. Just last week he was on some TV show on the east coast where he had agreed to a DNA test and it was revealed that he might be 14% Sub-Saharan African. Funny. Now, just this past weekend, he decided to "patrol" the town with another neo-nazi guy while brandishing big guns. Big mistake, as they were arrested and remain in custody: http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/cobb-remains-in-jail-on-no-bond/article_e914cdae-5078-11e3-8e08-0019bb2963f4.html

So, out of curiosity I decided to poke around places like Stormfront and other WP/WN places to see how those people were reacting. Seems like it's causing quite a bit of infighting. Some people support Cobb and what he's trying to do, others seem disgusted and embarrassed by him. Quite a few people even go so far as to say that he's a government plant, an agent provocateur so-to-speak, put in place to discredit any kind of white nationalist movement. So now we're veering into conspiracy theory. Oh and of course the jew-media is just twisting the story against Cobb, hah.

So ya, here in little ND this is a big story. This getting coverage anywhere else?

[HongKongGoolagong]

First heard of Craig Cobb last week with that great TV clip where Trisha Goddard tries to high-five him after his DNA results are revealed - all over British media, most entertaining. Doesn't look like this presumably fairly conservative ND community have exactly welcomed his lunatic plans for lebensraum. 

[bitewerksMTB]

http://www.leithnd.com/photogalleryourtown.htm

How hard can it be to take over Leith? I saw something a month or more back, maybe on MSNBC, about Cobb buying up property. Or looking to. I don't see what the big deal is. Can't be too many non-whites there  & they could have 'taken over' without making much of  a fuss.

14% ain't nothing. The other 88% is ALL WHITE and that's the part that COUNTS.

[burdizzo]

Ha ha! Good one!

[Ashmonger]

14% is very close to 12.5%, which is what you get when one of your great-grandparents was black. Then it seems most likely the 1.5% difference is what actually is the statistical noise.
However, it seems weird that he wouldn't know that one of his great-grandparents is black. I mean, I don't know too much about my great-grandparents either, but if one his grandparents would be black, that's something you still can clearly note, except if they died early. And his parents never told him that one of his great-grandparents was black when he was developping his white supremacist ideology?
Not saying it's all impossible, it's just weird. Another possibility is ofcourse he had two black great-great-grandparents. Both would have added each about 6.25% genes, so together 12.5%. That seems more probable to me about him not knowing he has black people in his family tree.
Anyway, just some thoughts about the genetic test...

[bitewerksMTB]

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/

If Cobb watched or read National Geographic then he would have known he had a bit of black in him.

[online prowler]

PARIS SHOOTINGS.

Political violence / terrorism?

While motif for Paris shootings remains dim one can ponder on a new dawn in political violence and terrorism. Apparently the individual had a prior conviction in relation to a left-wing weapon heist gone wrong in the '90s.

More in BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25027595

[totalblack]

PARIS SHOOTINGS.

Political violence / terrorism?

While motif for Paris shootings remains dim one can ponder on a new dawn in political violence and terrorism. Apparently the individual had a prior conviction in relation to a left-wing weapon heist gone wrong in the '90s.

More in BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25027595

Is the newspaper that he attacked "Libération" a politically oriented news publication or just a general news publication? Same question with the BFMTV. Seems like pretty poor targets, as mentioned in the linked video and article he was perhaps trying to commit suicide with these actions, considering he seemed to have tried to OD on pills after the third attack.

edit: there was a newer version of the story posted which says that he left letters saying the media was a part of a fascist plot, also leaving a letter with plans for his burial, so I think suicide was a safe bet as an end goal of this escapade.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25036807

[FreakAnimalFinland]

I will be interested to see what their reaction to these recent murders will be. Could be the beginning of the end or might give them strength and support to grow even stronger.

Recent news - depending where you read them - indicates support is stronger than ever.

Earlier this year support rally got 30000-50000 people on streets. Despite media predicted rally being flop, and some foreign media fabricated news of "only 1000 people in rally", one can look the video footage. It is very hard these days for regular media to try to give false news without being caught for it, because global communication and video material is easier to distribute than ever.

Recent support rallies against criminal charges of party got also five figure numbers in streets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NckvAkxgHuw

[online prowler]

PARIS SHOOTINGS.

Political violence / terrorism?

While motif for Paris shootings remains dim one can ponder on a new dawn in political violence and terrorism. Apparently the individual had a prior conviction in relation to a left-wing weapon heist gone wrong in the '90s.

More in BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25027595

Is the newspaper that he attacked "Libération" a politically oriented news publication or just a general news publication? Same question with the BFMTV. Seems like pretty poor targets, as mentioned in the linked video and article he was perhaps trying to commit suicide with these actions, considering he seemed to have tried to OD on pills after the third attack.

edit: there was a newer version of the story posted which says that he left letters saying the media was a part of a fascist plot, also leaving a letter with plans for his burial, so I think suicide was a safe bet as an end goal of this escapade.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25036807

Historically the Libération was a Marxist paper - or so I guess since the philosopher Sarte is one of the founders. He was a at least an out spoken marxist. Had to dig a little further search on the web re info on the newspaper. Seems like the paper have changed views to social democratic. Re BFM TV, I don't know. Never watched the channel and don't know anything about it. My searches didn't come up w anything conclusive on that. Maybe some of the French people here can comment? What makes it a bit confusing to me as an outsider is the shooters background - a previously anarchist. Though mostly a-political, one should think that the sympathies lies w the left. Maybe it as a random act, I am not sure, but I think it have a flare of discontent towards the now liberal and left institutions and political parties. A lot of people feel have let them down. I am only speculating here, not much one can do beside that. Will trawl the web for more info.

On another note. Anybody have verified / trustworthy news of the detention centres / internment camps Greece started to plan in 2012?

A friend sent me this link. http://act.watchdog.net/petitions/3322?share_ref=2K2mlEEZNdg Seems pretty over stated I think, but who knows? Is the current political climate in Europe this crazy? I can understand the sentiments re over-migration, ecn crisis, etc, but looking up transgenders, gays, etc is way off for me. Found this from last year, BBC, so reliable source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/29/greece-detention-centres-migrants - though nothing consistent and reliable after that I can trust. Seems to have been a riot in one of the camps though: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23653493