True Force / Pain Electronics.

[RyanWreck]

I haven't seen too many threads on actual labels themselves other than a few scattered around such as F&V, Freak Animal/IOPS and Sophisticate Records (a few more I am sure slipped my mind).

One label which I haven't seen discussed in depth on these forums is True Force/Pain Electronics (or TF/PE). This is a label that I feel needs more recognition that what they get. In my opinion it is the best active American PE/Noise label around, maybe even in the past 4 or so years. All of their material (all TF/PE projects) has been pretty much non-stop perfection. I would be hard pressed to pick a favorite because I really like all of the releases coming out of this label. It would seem the main artist behind TF/PE is Liver Mortis and possibly the guy behind Pleasure Fluids, although I am not sure. The great "Todenlust" is a good example of violence in the form of sound. Any fan could not forget "Cut-Rate" which is a prime example of nicely done, perverted P.E. with lo-fi aesthetics. There are of course other acts outside of Liver Mortis who work under the label (TF/PE) and are just as good. Pleasure Fluids comes to mind quickly and is at the top along with Felony Sexual Assault and Men Of The Iron Heel (I am eagerly awaiting new material from all three artists.)

Something else I like about this label is that they re-issue older, possibly sold-out material as a "gutter edition" re-issues. Up and coming labels and even those who have been established for a long period of time should take note. There are few labels out there that seem to be as devoted and committed in keeping their material in print long enough for most people to enjoy it. A great idea since most artists in the P.E. and Noise scenes release such limited edition albums. The catalogue which usually accompanies the orders, although short, adds extra flavoring and also gives the listener a better understanding of the atmosphere surrounding this label.

Anyway, what are your opinions on this label? Do you have a favorite artist and material from the TF/PE roster?

http://trueforcepainelectronics.blogspot.com

[Ritual]

I haven't heard anything actually released by this label, but I have the Liver Mortis tapes released by EST and Styggelse, and I like them quite a bit. I might pick up a few of the LM gutter editions at some point.

[P-K]

fist came in contact with LM with this release : http://www.discogs.com/Liver-Mortis-25-Minutes-Over-Holly/release/712759, found in the sales-bin of a now-defunct local shop.....imho i like this the most still


really like the gutter-idea......as i hate to pay 50euro 1week after stuff getting oop or rip it from the net

like his sound, like his general style

[catharticprocess]

I have almost everything by TF/PE. The best American PE/harsh noise label, hands down. Pisses all over art school hipster bullshit.

[Zeno Marx]

Anyone care to recommend a Liver Mortis release?  I haven't heard anything from that project.

[kettu]

Anyone care to recommend a Liver Mortis release?  I haven't heard anything from that project.

"the crimes they ask for" is a good´n , flows so nicely and has great vox. might as well get the tape from those finnish boys before its gone forever. that one  is a little different because it has an unusually a crisp sound. I doubt youll be severely dissapointed with any of them though.

lets ad "suited treatment" to that list. cant remember if this has been gutter editioned but that thorax tape is likely gone forever.

[RyanWreck]

Suited Treatment has been re-issued as a gutter edition. I have been hunting for a year for Liver Mortis' Scissored Out on Styggelse. That one really needs a Gutter Release but I doubt that will happen since it wasn't released by TF/PE.

For someone starting out on Liver Mortis I would suggest The Crimes They Ask For, Cut-Rate or Pleasure Ground / Master Coming which has also been gutter released and comes with Ideal Painforms.

For Pleasure Fluids my favorite is Scenes Of Consequence, but all of them are great.

I also highly suggest Men of the Iron Heel First Pogrom which can still be purchased from the label. The Civilian album coming out titled Unclean is fucking great, cold, analog P.E. Definitely a top contender.

[mystikum]

men of the iron heel is my favorite from release I have from the label. Definitely looking forward to the next set of releases.  I want to pick up the felony sexual assault, but figure I may as well wait for the next set to come out.

[Antihumanism]

Suited Treatment has been re-issued as a gutter edition. I have been hunting for a year for Liver Mortis' Scissored Out on Styggelse. That one really needs a Gutter Release but I doubt that will happen since it wasn't released by TF/PE.

http://www.discogs.com/sell/item/21345350?ev=bp_titl
and only for 8euro!

[RyanWreck]

Suited Treatment has been re-issued as a gutter edition. I have been hunting for a year for Liver Mortis' Scissored Out on Styggelse. That one really needs a Gutter Release but I doubt that will happen since it wasn't released by TF/PE.

http://www.discogs.com/sell/item/21345350?ev=bp_titl
and only for 8euro!

"Sorry, the item you tried to view is not currently for sale."

10 bucks isn't bad though (I live in the states, no Euro). I usually don't deal through discogs, I've only bought two tapes through it.

[catharticprocess]

I think I have some TF/PE tapes still, and a copy of "Scissored Out" for sale - hit me up with your address and the title you're looking for and I'll check stock and send a total with shipping. I haven't updated the Cabal site in months since it hasn't been worth my time, which I've had very little of since I started grad school.

My email is ben - a t - catharticprocess - d o t - com

-Ben

[FreakAnimalFinland]

I think two first tapes of Liver Mortis was little bit wanky. It hardly lived up to expectations of advertising it with references to Aquilifer Sodality camp Italia PE.  But, soon after, I think already 3rd tape was very good, and only got better. I personally rate the EST tape as best. It might be heavier and crispier than most other tapes, but perhaps also thanks to 1:1 real time dubbing on chrome tapes??

[RyanWreck]

I think two first tapes of Liver Mortis was little bit wanky. It hardly lived up to expectations of advertising it with references to Aquilifer Sodality camp Italia PE.  But, soon after, I think already 3rd tape was very good, and only got better. I personally rate the EST tape as best. It might be heavier and crispier than most other tapes, but perhaps also thanks to 1:1 real time dubbing on chrome tapes??

I guess I can see your point on it being "wanky". 25 Minutes Over Holly (the first LM cassette) did feel a bit improvised in a failing way with some rushed synth delivery that felt like K may have been playing with the sampler/synth and effects for the very first time, nothing original or extraordinary. But I feel that the second tape, Boss, was great for the most part. There were a few brief moments when it sounded like the thicker moments on Whitehouse's "Buchenwald" with a similar atmosphere (not the whole tape, just small parts of it). And yes, that Erratic Sporatacism tape, Cut Rate was top notch.

Pleasure Fluids on the other hand have made quality material since the first release, Amateur Pornography and have continued to do so with each consecutive release.

[tisbor]

great label , all the releases i have are excellent .
early tapes also came with plenty of lovely text for each track..

[sperm+killing]

I personally rate the EST tape as best. It might be heavier and crispier than most other tapes, but perhaps also thanks to 1:1 real time dubbing on chrome tapes??

EST most likely dubbed it from a digital master/cd-r instead of tape-to-tape like we do (always real-time speed on type IIs, but we appreciate the hinting otherwise).

Possible TFPE-related live appearance in later Spring + new releases around the same time...