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GEWALTMONOPOL

Has anyone considered that all this may be due to one or two individuals being on a mission? The targets are easy but more than that they are the same ones that have caused a lot of upset with some individuals before.
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online prowler

Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on August 31, 2013, 01:21:16 PM
Has anyone considered that all this may be due to one or two individuals being on a mission? The targets are easy but more than that they are the same ones that have caused a lot of upset with some individuals before.

We will fight them at the beaches!

FreakAnimalFinland

I think also some of these connected. You find one, you find next just clicking what else artists or label does. It may be someone reporting. It may be simply one checking out one offensive act, and following the easy system provided by discogs to check out what else particular artist has done.
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ironfistofthesun

They may be doing everyone a favour, a good ol bit of controversy never hurt in selling records..

Goat93

Discogs seems Strange lately in Some Ways. Adding something in their Discography is now also Fucking Complicated with their Wished about every little Information. So, Fuck them anyway. Is good to Buy/Sell and look for Infos, but a Pain in the Ass, if you must Talk with these Idiots

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Quote from: ironfistofthesun on August 31, 2013, 07:23:21 PM
They may be doing everyone a favour, a good ol bit of controversy never hurt in selling records..

Well, you should be happy now then. IFOTS made the nazi band list today on fistbook. Think Mikko have a point. Looks like one or a few individuals. None the less, even though serious, this is starting to be very funny now. I hope for his own sake this is some elaborate trolling scheme. It cannot be possible to be so ill-informed and daft.

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THESE BANDS ARE NAZIS ................................................................. NON, Brethren, Hatestylez, Sick Seed, Pain Nail, Deathkey, Xenophobic Ejaculation, Death in June, Blood Axis, NS Ninja, Panzer SS, Vinland Special Services, The Streetcleaner, Iron Fist of the Sun, Aryan Assault, Vinland SS, Todesengel, Karma Yoga 88, The Art Of Eugenics, Folkstorm, Von Thronstahl, Con-Dom, Sturmführer, Tank Genocide, Ethnic Acid, Allerseelen, Boyd Rice, etc .... IS YOUR DECISION SUPPORT THEM OR NOT.
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http://uprisedirect.blogspot.com.es/
http://www.nwnprod.com/forum/index.php


EDIT: Seems he deleted them. Anyway, still a lot shit on his site slandering at least FA.

FreakAnimalFinland

It's not much use give space for all sorts of dorks wasting everybodys time.
If someone is strongly offended by some releases on someones discography or mailorder, it's hardly news in underground.
Thinking that still these days, even NON gigs can get cancelled due his dubious politics...  aahahah... !
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ironfistofthesun

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Well, you should be happy now then. IFOTS made the nazi band list today on fistbook. Think Mikko have a point. Looks like one or a few individuals. None the less, even though serious, this is starting to be very funny now. I hope for his own sake this is some elaborate trolling scheme. It cannot be possible to be so ill-informed and daft.

.. His list is pathetic .."Ethnic acid"...almost like he has seen
racial terms in band names and automatically assumed they have an agenda.

Zeno Marx

Quote from: Goat93 on August 31, 2013, 08:16:41 PM
Discogs seems Strange lately in Some Ways. Adding something in their Discography is now also Fucking Complicated with their Wished about every little Information.
which is also why it is incredibly useful.  I've had the same problems and frustrations with entering new titles and editing information as anyone else, but I've come to appreciate that consistency and nitpicking.  I think of how much more useful sites like Encyclopaedia Metallum could be if it was more detailed and strict with formatting and information.  I almost never walk away from Discogs needing to go anywhere else when looking for information, and that is a great convenience.

How many artists and labels will want to be on the banned list and go out of their way to get there?  If it is all about smoke and mirrors, you can't ignore that possibility.  Some people will consider being banned as an achievement and wear it like a badge of honor.  Or another way to be associated with an outlander group.  "We were banned too.  Join the club."  There are many possibilities besides being victimized by a business or a business of do-gooders.
"the overindulgent machines were their children"
I only buy vinyl, d00ds.

jesusfaggotchrist

Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 01, 2013, 03:36:55 AM
"those who favor safety over liberty deserve neither safety nor liberty". that quote is one of the reasons I became a libertarian. also one of the reasons I'll never set foot in Europe, unless its Russia.

Is Russia a bastion of liberty & freedom?

You'll be fine in Europe.  You wouldn't  have to worry about paying their taxes or all the regulations unless you intend on living there or setting up a business.

I have never heard of Tank Genocide, The Art of Eugenics, or Karma Yoga 88 (sounds made up on the spot)..
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to me it is, compared to what the states have become.

Vega360

Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 01, 2013, 03:36:55 AM
I have never heard of Tank Genocide, The Art of Eugenics, or Karma Yoga 88 (sounds made up on the spot)..

Tank Genocide is a bedroom black metal band from France who seems to just improvise releases and has put out more demos then anyone I have ever seen in such a time span most of if not all have covers themed after Nazisplotation films. Obviously maybe one or two songs from those tapes should have ever been released. I highly doubt the person behind the band is intelligent enough to have a political stance.

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tank_Genocide/3540347270

Karma Yoga 88 was a ambient/folk project that made Indo-Aryan music or music about the Arya/Aryan Kirya. That band however was fake and the guy behind it decided to take advantage of my kind & trusting nature to steal a bunch of money and items from this label.

The Art of Eugenics is the name of this split (click the this sentence for a link). Not an actual band.

He also lists my music twice the "Vinland Special Services" & "Vinland SS" which are the same band. Someone on facebook told me that Death in June is actually Jewish. The Nuclear War Now! forum he is referencing is a public forum (the label is run by an Asain guy) where I promote my label/music (despite a vast majority of it not being political in Nature) along with NS black metal labels such as Frenteruopa & Darker Then Black. 

Considering that he took most of it down as someone stated I suspect he made this all up in a caffeine rush. I still wouldn't mind finding more information about the guy to scare the pants off him though. Anti Fascist internet warriors are the new trend I guess.

Goat93

QuoteAnti Fascist internet warriors are the new trend I guess.

Very Old Trend, but now Worldwide. Seems more in Europe before. They have fucked up a lot in Germany, Swiss, Austria, England and so forth. Canceling Shows, Boycott Selling and also Demos agains some Stores (like in Bremen some Years ago, was Quiet funny, since one of the Shops in this Building was run by an old Gruftis gegen Rechts Member) ect ect.
They have even made 2 Books about Subgenre :

Ästhetische_Mobilmachung - Book about Gothic/Industrial/Noise ect.
Part of it as Pdf from a Leftwinged official Site:
http://www.linksjugend-lsa.de/uploads/media/Aesthetische_Mobilmachung_Death_in_June.pdf

Unheilige Allianzen - Book about Black Metal and NSBM
Image of it as Pdf from a Leftwinged official Site:
http://old.asta-bochum.de/IMG/pdf/Black_Metal.pdf


Both books are used in Lessons on Schools and in some Blabla Platforms, since they are really famous and Old, nothing changed after Releasing them at all.

HongKongGoolagong

Quote from: Vega360 on September 01, 2013, 01:32:47 PM
Tank Genocide is a bedroom black metal band from France who seems to just improvise releases and has put out more demos then anyone I have ever seen in such a time span most of if not all have covers themed after Nazisplotation films. Obviously maybe one or two songs from those tapes should have ever been released. I highly doubt the person behind the band is intelligent enough to have a political stance.

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tank_Genocide/3540347270

That list includes songtitles that will amuse for some time, thanks for the link. "Jesus Is a Fucking Jewish" seems a winner but the bathos of "Keep France White (Bonus Track)" comes close. Just recently he's moved onto "Suicide Is My Last Refuge" from Your Life Is Crap.

Vega360

Quote from: Goat93 on September 01, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
QuoteAnti Fascist internet warriors are the new trend I guess.

Very Old Trend, but now Worldwide. Seems more in Europe before. They have fucked up a lot in Germany, Swiss, Austria, England and so forth. Canceling Shows, Boycott Selling and also Demos agains some Stores (like in Bremen some Years ago, was Quiet funny, since one of the Shops in this Building was run by an old Gruftis gegen Rechts Member) ect ect.
They have even made 2 Books about Subgenre :

Ästhetische_Mobilmachung - Book about Gothic/Industrial/Noise ect.
Part of it as Pdf from a Leftwinged official Site:
http://www.linksjugend-lsa.de/uploads/media/Aesthetische_Mobilmachung_Death_in_June.pdf

Unheilige Allianzen - Book about Black Metal and NSBM
Image of it as Pdf from a Leftwinged official Site:
http://old.asta-bochum.de/IMG/pdf/Black_Metal.pdf


Both books are used in Lessons on Schools and in some Blabla Platforms, since they are really famous and Old, nothing changed after Releasing them at all.

I didn't know hold it was, I'm only 23 and was a Toddler during all the early nineties heyday of all this stuff. Black Metal concerts etc. all getting shut down and whatever else. Distributors getting raided by AFA, Couple years ago a Kroda concert was shut down by armed cops etc. In America there isn't blanket censorship under law about this kind of stuff, basically it's up to the individual business to decide if they want to sell that stuff (which obviously most don't) but there isn't much I think in terms of regulation by law. I'll meet bands that are run by people who are serious activists other are just kids looking to channel their aggression into art.

@ HongKongGoolagong

If you or anyone else actually feel inclined to buy Tank Genocide material or any of the other bands the list mentioned that I had to explain please check my distro list.

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HongKongGoolagong

Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 25, 2013, 12:03:36 AM
One comment on the thread that Discogs sent me a link to, someone notes that the U.S. lacks hate speech laws- do most people in Europe support such laws? Mildly off-topic but I figured I'd ask.

Prosecutions under hate speech laws in Europe are quite rare and selectively applied - it tends to be done in the UK when public order is supposedly put at risk by some Muslim kid gobbing off on facebook or twitter promoting the murder of off-duty soldiers. These laws I would say are generally supported by the tabloid-reading masses although personally I don't think free speech can be called free speech unless it includes the right to be an idiot - that goes for fundamentalist extremists, racist and fascist musicians and these anti-fascist activists who get it comically wrong.

Germany is different from elsewhere with its stricter laws about the display of swastikas and so on, and a strange and probably unwanted byproduct of these laws has been a widespread ignorance and taboo about their own history. It's amazing how many native Germans have never visited a KZ even when one may be near their home town.

Russia sounds really fucked up for its lack of free speech due to the big religious/moralistic cultural influence.