Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 28, 2013, 12:09:13 PM
IF noise was only describing electronic signal DISTORTION, then it would make sense to call "HNW" or "harsh noise" as logical end. ... or innovative distortion composition.
It seems almost inevitable that discussions on the value (or "life") of noise fall back to conjecture on the appropriate terminology.
Noise. "What is noise?" It is just a word, but no it's not just a word. It is, in fact, a word which existed long, long before noise as a field of sonic endeavor was recognized. It's a word which existed long, long before English as a language was recognized. It's a word which probably existed long, long before the idea of "words" as a means of communication was recognized. (That is to say, a fixed idea of noise existed long, long before it was a word.)
Compare to, for instance: power electronics, drum 'n bass, rock 'n roll, jazz, classical. These were terms offered as descriptors of the created, after the fact of their creation was recognized. (There may be exceptions, and I'm working on it. I, Bloated Slutbag, hereby declare my intention to create a completely NEW field of sonic endeavor which I've dubbed, in an effort to beat critics to the punch, "Buttfuck Wibes". I haven't heard it yet, but BY FUCK I'll know it when I hear it. Buttfuck Wibes. Coming to a record store near you. Ahem.)
When noise was first "created", packaged, released for general consumption... it simply became what already was. It became the dictionary definition of itself. Noise. Play the recording. Check your dictionary. Yep. That's noise, through and through. Incapacitants - Feedback of NMS. Press play. Look up the dictionary definitions of "harsh" and "noise". (Is Bloated implying that the idea of "harsh noise" existed long, long before we even had words to describe it? Yes he is. And he will continue to do so. Until the bottle is empty.) Any questions?
Objection to the above, #1. Bu-
But. The instant you decide you "want" to hear it, the dictionary definition starts to break down. And at least one idea of noise - "unwanted sound" - "dies". But this is a minority view eg. mine, yours, the whole of the Special Interests network... on a global scale, we are, put simply, nothing. absolutely nothing. get used to it.... (Here again we are necessarily privileging one idea, or description, of noise over another; so, "What is noise?" No really, What. The Fuck. Is It?
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Don't know about you folks. But for the last twenty years, trying to nail down my idea of what noise may or may not be, not to mention how much "life" it's got, has provided at least as much pointless distraction as making noise, listening to noise, and pretty much any other pass-time to be thought of, noise-related and otherwise.
So, to the question "What is noise?" the answer "It is dead" seems woefully inadequate.
Close brackets.)
For me, noise dies when the I can successfully listen to the first three minutes of Incapacitants "Feedback of NMS" without my mind being blown (notwithstanding the fact that track 2 is better still....) Will let you know when I get there, assuming of course I'm not dead.
